(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1650]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[guojuan]PB[guojuan]WR[5p]BR[5p]DT[2006-07-08]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Small [?\]: hi
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: almost like the game, now i play j17 - w g17 and i play j16
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(;B[qc]CR[qc]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: cool
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;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[co]CR[co]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: Lets Start
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;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[dq]LB[jd:4][dj:2][pj:3][jq:1]TR[co][dq]C[WhiteDeath [20k\]: K3 
Meyerhold [13k\]: K3?
Attitude [11k\]: L3
Misafir33 [12k\]: L3
MaxPowa [13k\]: south
kolben [30k?\]: q16
Rambam [11k\]: Q16
weiqidevil [?\]: k3?
WhiteDeath [20k\]: J3 ?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: where is the biggest area now?
KinoNoTabi [12k?\]: Q16 
WhiteDeath [20k\]: J3 
Attitude [11k\]: 1
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this is already important, there is one, two, three, four open areas
Attitude [11k\]: 11111
bachibou: 4?
kishambo [15k\]: 1
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: which area is the biggest?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: 1
Misafir33 [12k\]: K3
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: because black has the corner here
KinoNoTabi [12k?\]: 33
Attitude [11k\]: yes
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if black gets 1, he's building a big box :) a dimensional territory
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if he goes to 2 the territory is flat
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so area 1 is the biggest
MaxPowa [13k\]: yes
MaxPowa [13k\]: very
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: do you understand?
bachibou: ok
Misafir33 [12k\]: yes
craig [10k\]: yes
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: yes
weiqidevil [?\]: yes
WhiteDeath [20k\]: yep
Shanti [-\]: ok
Attitude [11k\]: YES
Attitude [11k\]: there are more
KinoNoTabi [12k?\]: YEYES
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(;W[iq]CR[iq]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: normally white plays k3
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(;B[qn]CR[qn]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: before, when i was young, i learned p3, but because of g4, no one plays it anymore - w m3 is normal now
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: back to the game
Hu [12k\]: Many thanks, jCelila!
blitzme [6k\]: when you where young 10 years ago
Attitude [11k\]: yes
Celila [14k?\]: (i hope i don't make too many mistakes ^^)
spingle [9k\]: yes very
Celila [14k?\]: yes :)
Misafir33 [12k\]: Celila pls write red comments :P
isaka [-\]: yes
MaxPowa [13k\]: very clear
Hu [12k\]: Good clear comments, thanks!
pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes
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;W[np]CR[np]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: are my comments clear?
jedi [15k\]: yes
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(;B[pj]CR[pj]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: it is possible, but then w can easily come in
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;W[fq]LB[lq:A][qq:B]TR[np][pp][fq][iq]C[BlueOne [5k\]: ok with audio
Icare [2k\]: ok
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this is very normal, let's see what they did
french3kyu: why not q9
french3kyu: ?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this is the shape
french3kyu: for B
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: the game becomes like this, when you see this shape
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: there are two open areas in this shape
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: black can easily invade here A - or B for the corner
Attitude [11k\]: yes
FRaiSoo [6k?\]: yes.
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: b doesn't have to immediately jump in
Attitude [11k\]: B will live?
nest [19k\]: why m3 but not l3 ?
Misafir33 [12k\]: cool
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: it's like a room with 2 doors. if both doors are open, we still have a second chance to get in
BlueOne [5k\]: ok
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: we don't have to hurry
iru [11k?\]: that is clear
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: j17*
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(;B[id]TR[qc][id][pj]C[Shanti [-\]: why not 
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: a territory with 3 doors and we don't have to hurry at all
french3kyu: q9 insted of q10 better no?
isaka [-\]: good
Misafir33 [12k\]: upper Right MOYO 
ChocoboVII [?\]: ambitious
Attitude [11k\]: too far?
kolben [30k?\]: open at q16
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so b played j16, what do you think about this move?
pertoskyu [18k?\]: building big moyo
ChwingLufy [5d\]: weird:)
Attitude [11k\]: invites an attack?
MaxPowa [13k\]: looks balanced and big?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: right side is bigger
bachibou: north can be invade easily?
ChwingLufy [5d\]: prepares f17?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this move actually is not .. hmm. because of r17 i would not play it
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;W[pd]CR[pd]C[ChwingLufy [5d\]: he dont want to be pinced
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: san-san with double wing like this is not really good
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: because w just plays q16 - hoshi
fire1 [14k\]: after m3
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;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[od]CR[od]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: that's the game again, w played q16 (perfect)
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;B[re]CR[re]
;W[oc]CR[oc]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: the stones are not efficient
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so san-san and double wings is also not good
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(;B[lc]LB[gc:A]TR[lc][id]C[isaka [-\]: yippee :)
Misafir33 [12k\]: Celila you dont need to write guojuan eveytime.. :P
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: j16 becomes a bad move, that's why matthew chooses m17
Rambam [11k\]: f17
Attitude [11k\]: K17
grossebaf [4k?\]: g17 ?
weiqidevil [?\]: g17?
Attitude [11k\]: K17
Celila [14k?\]: i know misafir, not easy
BlueOne [5k\]: G17
Attitude [11k\]: K17
iru [11k?\]: k17?
Amril [5k\]: maybe simply p16 instead j16
Hu [12k\]: H18
pertoskyu [18k?\]: l17
Bell [9k\]: k1
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: those two stones have a door, where is the door?
Attitude [11k\]: LOL
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(;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[pf]CR[pf]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: white needs to play on the right side first
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;W[of]CR[of]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[oe]CR[oe]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: that's typical matthew
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(;B[qi]LB[qi:A]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: makes w heavier
Misafir33 [12k\]: so who is strong for now ?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: now f17 would be good
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: matthew seems to be very careful today
isaka [-\]: cut first think later :)
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: normally he would not play a move like r11
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: he always argues with me about things like this
Misafir33 [12k\]: Matthew is not enough good now because of parking-tesuji, maybe
Attitude [11k\]: XD 
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: when we played before, he argued about the game "i didn't want to fight with you in this situation, but you forced me to" and it's always like he says, he doesn't start the fighting first
Shanti [-\]: parking-tesuji ?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: maybe it was my fault that he had to fight, but anyway, he always is a severe fighter
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: in local fighting matthew is really really strong
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: the 3 stones at the top are not safe, they are not alive yet
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(;W[le]LB[le:A]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: hmm this move is a little bit slow (r11)
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: w should have played g17 now, but m15 is very quiet
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: that's really strange, .. so if we look at it in a different order, then we really don't want to play there
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so with every move we should check, are they doing their job?
gogoyeti [?\]: they re all drinkin coffee arent they
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: white lost a chance, as w i would have played g17
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: the opening looks very good for black
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: does anyone know anything about this white player? his name looks chinese
DrOlczyk [14k\]: Celila instead of typing "guojuan"  all the time, why don't you just implicitly repeat what she says and mark your own comments?
Attitude [11k\]: dont know him
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: a very strong chinese player came to london not long ago, is that him? does anyone know?
Uberdude [8k\]: he goes to milton keynes club in uk
Celila [14k?\]: it's copied
pertoskyu [18k?\]: i think bei ge now lives in north of england - anyone know for sure
Celila [14k?\]: i don't type it everytime
valeri [6k\]: lool
pertoskyu [18k?\]: milton keynes is midlands
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: i think i haven't been in the uk for two years now... i haven't been playing there for a long time
bachibou: continue cecila thx!
Shanti [-\]: =)
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: i have been very active in the european tournaments, but not in the last few years, because i was busy teaching
lordofpi [4k?\]: you were at TT in London 2005 ^^
Misafir33 [12k\]: KGS should give Celila another Star ^^
Shanti [-\]: lol
Attitude [11k\]: what site?
Akhwah: i just checked the net for GO and clicked my way here
caraoke [17k\]: yes :D I'm studying from that site - u'r my master ^^~
guojuan [5p\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com
doerp [13k?\]: the audio is working very well
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: do you know this audio site? (a bit commercial on the side) i will put it on our audio side as a free lecture
MaxPowa [13k\]: thankyou very much
Attitude [11k\]: can you tipe the site
doerp [13k?\]: i enjoy it
caraoke [17k\]: and french :D
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: it's especially for our english speaking players
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;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[ke]CR[ke]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: back to the game
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;B[fc]LB[fc:B][qi:A]TR[oc][od][ke][le][oe][of][og][pg]C[iru [11k?\]: so we need to see the coffee drinkers
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this is sente for black, so now matthew got f17
Shanti [-\]: isn't O15 coffee drinker ?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: good for black
caraoke [17k\]: no..O15 made w's group heavy and leave some aji
caraoke [17k\]: so he's working pretty hard :D
ArCosH [5k\]: i always drink coffee at work while others  have to work
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: on the right side black does A (becomes black's territory), and on the top black plays B
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this game will be online very soon next week
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;W[cf]LB[lq:A][qq:B]TR[cf][co]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: goodie :)
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this is the game again
doruk [15k\]: black m3?
Kaiu [11k\]: C10 ?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: C17 or C10 maybe :P
Celila [14k?\]: [i'm afraid i have to go :(  \]
sarap [6k\]: c17 ^^ 
ChocoboVII [?\]: invade or putting pressure on the two white stones?
Celila [14k?\]: anyone takes over?
Ash [17k\]: c10?
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(;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[db]CR[db]LB[di:B][eo:A]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: let's see in the game, b chooses the left side
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if we look at the left side, this is potential territory - with two doors
Celila [14k?\]: two doors - A  and  B
Celila [14k?\]: sorry, missed this, had to boot someone :(
]
;B[jf]CR[jf]LB[me:A][eo:1]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: i think the corner is very big
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so ... hmm he starts to attack this group
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this attacking has some weakness
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: he is working for huge moyo or somthing?
Misafir33 [12k\]: Her voice force me to study GO harder and harder ^^
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so i would feel nervous with k14
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: what does b get from this move?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: to develop the left side is not really efficient because of two doors
Attitude [11k\]: a FIGHT
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: what does k14 really do? what does it get?
ChocoboVII [?\]: after the sequences you've shown, it seems weak :/
Misafir33 [12k\]: what should have black done instead of K14?
Attitude [11k\]: k16
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: maybe he wont to make it more complicated
pel [8k\]: center influence?
MaxPowa [13k\]: i can't see anything definite
vinc42 [6k\]: build support for left
FRaiSoo [6k?\]: (shanti, please commit suicide :)  )
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(;W[jd]CR[jd]C[hilaire [14k\]: e12 
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: can b kill this group now?
Namii [-\]: ah Attitude seems to be hebrew (actually I had a hinch he would be)
]
;B[jc]CR[jc]LB[me:A]C[tomii: shiiinneeey
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;W[ic]CR[ic]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: white does look good here
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: in the game w immediately attacks
Shanti [-\]: bad shapes for black O_O
french3kyu: dangerous fo W
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: i don't feel good about the immediate cut, and not about k16 either
isaka [-\]: J17 last move
Celila [14k?\]: ah, that is your own moves :)
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: let's be patient, matthew is using his time, they have 3 hours, it's a very long game
Misafir33 [12k\]: Celila is tired :P
pel [8k\]: coffebreak tesuji
Celila [14k?\]: no misaf, i have to study :(
bachibou: why it's so long?
Uberdude [8k\]: we brits like our coffee breaks =)
hikaru9d [?\]: what is p5
hikaru9d [?\]: *5p
isaka [-\]: Tea at 4pm :)
bachibou: losing moove
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(;B[je]CR[je]C[spingle [9k\]: didnt games lsat a day in some old tournaments?\]
Rambam [11k\]: coffe break isn't very efficient :D
Misafir33 [12k\]: being student is the Hardest job :P
Celila [14k?\]: so i'm sorry, but someone else has to write now ^^
]
(;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[kc]CR[kc]C[WhiteDeath [20k\]: N15 
BlueOne [5k\]: easy Attitude
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;W[me]CR[me]C[Hu [12k\]: Please do not shout, Attitude.
Misafir33 [12k\]: i hear Wise and lovely voice ^^
]
;B[hd]CR[hd]LB[fc:B][qi:A][gr:1][hr:3][gs:2][hs:4]TR[oc][od][je][me][oe][jf][of][og][pg][ch]C[Shanti [-\]: guojuan vs guojuan
PrettyWeak [4d\]: B gain a lot..
spingle [9k\]: ok can we stop the racism now pls
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojan : So the cut was too early, N15 was a patient defensive move
hikaru9d [?\]: 16 0
Uberdude [8k\]: shouldn't w have at least ataried at h16
ChocoboVII [?\]: white's cut was kind of a aji kesji
ChocoboVII [?\]: *keshi
hikaru9d [?\]: you normal
french3kyu: B is realy strong in fight o_o
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojan : So the fight came out very good for black. The A and B marked stones are very strong
bv4 [7k?\]: way to go Kaiu
bv4 [7k?\]: thx
Strikeback: he's just played O10
Strikeback: Nikken keima at O10
Nodan81 [11k\]: 45
Attitude [11k\]: 20?
BlueOne [5k\]: 25
spingle [9k\]: 31
Misafir33 [12k\]: about 25
Isobeutel [6k?\]: 25
playm8 [6k?\]: with right side included?
ChocoboVII [?\]: about 23
miraje [2k\]: 15
PrettyWeak [4d\]: 25
iru [11k?\]: 30
MaxPowa [13k\]: just in upper right or in all?
doerp [13k?\]: 16
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 25 + -
pertoskyu [18k?\]: 12 on top
BALLZ [17k\]: 24
zilliq [10k\]: 20
hikaru9d [?\]: about 35
mironton [17k\]: about 25 in right side
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan (sry for the previous mispell sensei) : The right side should be counted this way. For a result for 22. You're good if you counted 20 to 25...
isaka [-\]: 12
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 14
playm8 [6k?\]: 15
Iduna [17k\]: 14
ChocoboVII [?\]: 12
pertoskyu [18k?\]: 14 on top
al2 [8k\]: 16
hikaru9d [?\]: 2
Misafir33 [12k\]: 20 about
Isobeutel [6k?\]: 15
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
iru [11k?\]: 14
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : Top side count
zilliq [10k\]: 15
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: ^^
doerp [13k?\]: 14
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
szleski [16k\]: 15
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
Attitude [11k\]: 10
bachibou: 16
GrandMoche [11k\]: 11
BALLZ [17k\]: 15
al2 [8k\]: 16
Midorya [3k\]: 12
Fleymen [12k\]: 16
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: what a lotory :P
kyuplayer1 [9k\]: 14
Amateur [20k\]: 11
mironton [17k\]: about 15 
hikaru9d [?\]: 2
uchiha: 14
hikaru9d [?\]: 2
hikaru9d [?\]: 2
hikaru9d [?\]: 2
hikaru9d [?\]: 2
hikaru9d [?\]: 2
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
hikaru9d [?\]: 2
hikaru9d [?\]: 2
Jefia [13k\]: hikaru9d ...DONT SPAM
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: i think around 16
Rambam [11k\]: 19
Rambam [11k\]: ops 15
isaka [-\]: 18
ChocoboVII [?\]: 13
playm8 [6k?\]: 14
Attitude [11k\]: 15
Spirali [17k\]: 20
szleski [16k\]: 15
Misafir33 [12k\]: 17
Thelonious [6k\]: 12
pertoskyu [18k?\]: 14 points
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: white got nother copair to black i think :P
WhiteDeath [20k\]: 18
playm8 [6k?\]: 20
Misafir33 [12k\]: on bottom w has nothing
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : So B has 45, and white is clearly under. Black is 20 points ahead on board
Attitude [11k\]: and the potential terretory? is it better for Black???
Misafir33 [12k\]: is it normal ? 20 points ahead in opening ?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: white still not alive there
isaka [-\]: liability
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: black will gain alot of moyo at the cencer
WhiteDeath [20k\]: they played a lot 
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : For the potential : Black has potential (triangle stones) while at the same time White has not much (triangle stones)
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: *corner
Misafir33 [12k\]: 20 more ?
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : White has a group to care about (not living yet) this is a minus point
Attitude [11k\]: yes
jjermann [15k\]: G6
jjermann [15k\]: white played
]
(;W[nj]CR[nj]C[Balator [16k\]: so white has to look for fights to come back?
Isobeutel [6k?\]: thx
pertoskyu [18k?\]: this commentary is excellent
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: run and moyo
playm8 [6k?\]: white wants moyo?
Attitude [11k\]: moyo braker?
Rambam [11k\]: run and cap
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : In a game, you must break the flow and try to make pause to count and estimate
Attitude [11k\]: or escape?
pertoskyu [18k?\]: thanks Guo Juan
bachibou: tu take influence center?
Misafir33 [12k\]: attack and escape move ?
iru [11k?\]: to strengthen white top group?
BlueOne [5k\]: R8
playm8 [6k?\]: and to live ofcourse
pertoskyu [18k?\]: gets out and supresses black from centre
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: all answers are good :)
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : Actual question : what should white play ?
isaka [-\]: last resort :)
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : White is hopelessly making a big attempt because we must assume that he knows that if he tries to play calm and quiet he will lose.
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: the resign botten ^^?
Misafir33 [12k\]: M3?
Uberdude [8k\]: D9 ?
Rambam [11k\]: D9?
playm8 [6k?\]: K4 :)
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : D9 is too slow : making territory in gote while WHIte has counterplay to expand 
Misafir33 [12k\]: M13?
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : Going back to the previous move, we can now consider the crosscut was a kind of losing move. Nothing is yet completly lost, but this was a very poor play (White J17)
]
(;B[fo]CR[fo]C[WhiteDeath [20k\]: i say 
Misafir33 [12k\]: typicall matthew move ?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: close the dor
isaka [-\]: consolidates
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : F5 is very strong, beautiful move. Enlarging is own influence, shuting one door
Misafir33 [12k\]: if W e4?
doruk [15k\]: can white cut f5?
]
;W[cj]CR[cj]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: he play slow and sure
]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
(;B[cg]CR[cg]C[Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : Black knows he has 20 points ahead, so he does not have to invade and take risks anymore
]
;W[cm]CR[cm]
;B[cn]CR[cn]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[kq]CR[kq]C[Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : If white tries to invade at C10, we see the way black handle this (C8 answer)
]
(;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[cr]CR[cr]
;W[dp]CR[dp]C[Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : Going ahead in the game, L3 is a very nice stone
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: make the corner stronger
Attitude [11k\]: agresive?
Attitude [11k\]: oh
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : So the game is almost over. White MUST win the fight here
Attitude [11k\]: yes
isaka [-\]: too thin?
Hu [12k\]: "Too naked" is clear.
Rambam [11k\]: no pieces helping
Attitude [11k\]: no power to back it up
]
(;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[ep]CR[ep]C[Hu [12k\]: "Not supported enough"
]
;B[eo]CR[eo]C[Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : This is not very good for white actually. There is nothing in the variations 
mironton [17k\]: yes, excellent comment
willzhang [9d\]: D2 try C3?
Attitude [11k\]: yes
Misafir33 [12k\]: meaningless ?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: if he will defened all the way he will win. :P
]
(;W[fm]CR[fm]C[willzhang [9d\]: hopeless?
PrettyWeak [4d\]: too obvious?
iru [11k?\]: not subtle enough?
willzhang [9d\]: no chance?
Uberdude [8k\]: simple
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: ^^
PrettyWeak [4d\]: haha
szleski [16k\]: helpless?
stumped [15k\]: no fitness?
playm8 [6k?\]: crude?
richieb [14k\]: too passive?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: your english is good enough for me :)
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : White has "naked" (white is too thin). *laughs* I'm sorry about my english
ArCosH [5k\]: white plays naked ?
bachibou: perfect for me
tomii: your engrish is shuperb
ChocoboVII [?\]: it's m uch better than mine :)
KaiouKun [-\]: hahahah
Misafir33 [12k\]: your english and your voice are lovely..
playm8 [6k?\]: ok, now i get strange images ^^()
playm8 [6k?\]: white being naked...
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: hehe
mironton [17k\]: i wish i could heard your english in that server all days ^^
FRaiSoo [6k?\]: -_-
Kaiu [11k\]: (Your english is really good enough for the french i am :p)
playm8 [6k?\]: is this then strip-go?
pertoskyu [18k?\]: guo to translate the Chinese?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: white start looking bad. :P
]
(;B[hp]CR[hp]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: we have 3 hours
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: its 6 hours together...
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: lot of time ^^
ChocoboVII [?\]: +byo yomi
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: i would drop dead. :P
willzhang [9d\]: I heard that ,matthew like fight very much
Attitude [11k\]: yes
BlueOne [5k\]: well say Guo
lormee [12k\]: haha
]
(;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[bp]CR[bp]C[lormee [12k\]: do u like complicated game?
willzhang [9d\]: no,I like simple
]
(;W[bq]CR[bq]
(;B[bn]CR[bn]C[isaka [-\]: no
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: there will be a resign here.
Attitude [11k\]: KO for the game?
]
;W[ap]CR[ap]C[inuyashi [17k\]: a pro said 5.5
Attitude [11k\]: no
icqohoh: how does the game changes so fast?
]
;B[bo]CR[bo]C[isaka [-\]: hhehe
bachibou: SEEMS HEAVY
ChocoboVII [?\]: looks weird indeed
Nodan81 [11k\]: white losing
Misafir33 [12k\]: B has bad shape there ? 
Attitude [11k\]: aji keshi XD
willzhang [9d\]: now ,it seems white is going to die somewhere :)
lormee [12k\]: how do we improve reading skill
tudorus [1d\]: solve life and death
Misafir33 [12k\]: how can we decide where is VITAL or WEAK point ?
ChocoboVII [?\]: just train
willzhang [9d\]: komi is 7.5?
icqohoh: damn
icqohoh: i lost it
inuyashi [17k\]: 5.5
Attitude [11k\]: no
willzhang [9d\]: I hate komi(espescially whe nI play black)
ChocoboVII [?\]: I'd wonder, i think there's 6.5
Srolmops [?\]: 69
pertoskyu [18k?\]: komi is 6.5
willzhang [9d\]: I *
isaka [-\]: 6.5
inuyashi [17k\]: there are 5.5
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 6.5 i think
Attitude [11k\]: UKCshipRec [?\]: 6.5
PrettyWeak [4d\]: So you still hate komi a little when playing white, will?
icqohoh:  L5 black shall?
takeMe [?\]: 12.5 ? 
icqohoh: or fight against white?
Ellethael [19k\]: that's the question
icqohoh: i am sorry
icqohoh: i wasnt here
Ellethael [19k\]: ;-)
willzhang [9d\]: komi make me uptight...
Attitude [11k\]: UKCshipRec [?\]: 6.5
PrettyWeak [4d\]: Hehe
takeMe [?\]: no more subtitle from celila 
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: true
ChocoboVII [?\]: its 6.5, i asked
inuyashi [17k\]: once
]
(;W[ip]TR[hp][ip]C[isaka [-\]: B5 last move
isaka [-\]: now J4
icqohoh: now it destroy what i thought :)
isaka [-\]: UKCshipRec [?\]: Bei has used 58 mins, Matthew 52
Amateur [20k\]: where, in france ?
ChocoboVII [?\]: dangerous for White no?
icqohoh: L3 
icqohoh: is intersting
Misafir33 [12k\]: B h6?
]
(;B[nr]CR[nr]C[bachibou: have you the same voice in real life?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: i am here dont i ^^?
Misafir33 [12k\]: Matthew played O2
inuyashi [17k\]: oh it is in belmont
icqohoh: in jerusalem?
willzhang [9d\]: flee?
icqohoh: what is flee?
Misafir33 [12k\]: is O2 good move ?
willzhang [9d\]: run away from a fight
icqohoh: i think
bachibou: M2 ?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: flee is like running away
icqohoh: and stabilize
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: flee away 
icqohoh: thank you :)
]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[ko]CR[ko]
(;W[in]LB[cg:A]TR[nj][cm][dm][fm][in][ko][kq][nr]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: who won ? :P
icqohoh: w is starting
icqohoh: i know its sound pathetic and stupid , but i think w can do something
Attitude [11k\]: after N3 he can
Amateur [20k\]: ok, thanks
willzhang [9d\]: got to find a way for white
icqohoh: P7 
Attitude [11k\]: np
icqohoh: is it good?
icqohoh: very nice
willzhang [9d\]: is that means black was not simple enough lower left corner?
yr [-\]: where can the REAL game be watched?
]
(;B[er]CR[er]C[Small [?\]: The real game is somewhere in UK
tomii: no
]
(;W[km]CR[km]LB[mq:A]C[playm8 [6k?\]: isn't the following sequence possible? D5 D6 E6 F4 E3 F2 G3 H3 G2 H2 ?
PrettyWeak [4d\]: i have a question if you don't mind
jedi [15k\]: nice guy nice kids
Misafir33 [12k\]: w attacked
ken3214 [8k\]: oh i see
]
(;B[mo]LB[qn:2][ko:1][mo:A]C[Hu [12k\]: Laughs.  Misafir33 is such a joker ^^
jedi [15k\]: nice guy nice kids mathew, fights good in local
Shanti [-\]: don't worry Misfir. It's complex for everyone.
]
(;W[pn]CR[pn]C[Nodan81 [11k\]: they played
HikaShin [7d\]: Q6
]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[qm]TR[pm][qm][pn][qn][pp]C[TeeSushi [7k\]: crosscut by w
HikaShin [7d\]: and cut
Attitude [11k\]: they did
HikaShin [7d\]: ya
Attitude [11k\]: yes
Misafir33 [12k\]: i hate Crosscut (my nightmare)
Woodstock [-\]: load*
Ellethael [19k\]: yes
Misafir33 [12k\]: i give up Go :P
Misafir33 [12k\]: too complex for me
]
(;B[qq]CR[qq]C[Attitude [11k\]: lol
spingle [9k\]: 40 mins away ;)
rayen [6k\]: maybe they are to busy with game :D
pertoskyu [18k?\]: they will take lunch
spingle [9k\]: its 12:40
Uberdude [8k\]: its 12:24 in uk now
l20k [19k\]: they finished already
bachibou: lol
]
(;W[qo]CR[qo]C[spingle [9k\]: sryu 12:20 now
pertoskyu [18k?\]: not sure what time
bachibou: matthiew is a girl?
szystkogra [1d\]: thanks guo;_) i hac\\ve to go
]
;B[rn]CR[rn]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: 4:27 am in Usa, oregon
willzhang [9d\]: this is the game?
mironton [17k\]: human can't live eating only stones
spingle [9k\]: ahh#
]
;W[ro]CR[ro]C[willzhang [9d\]: could be a self killing too :(
Shanti [-\]: self killing ? 
HikaShin [7d\]: give up more??
Misafir33 [12k\]: coffie ?
]
(;B[on]CR[on]
;W[po]CR[po]C[willzhang [9d\]: milk :)
Attitude [11k\]: no problem
Shanti [-\]: l_b
rayen [6k\]: is it more games tomorrow ?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: wow.. ^^
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: lot of talking :)
Attitude [11k\]: lol
]
(;B[lm]CR[lm]C[bachibou: thx
Shanti [-\]: c\\_/
spingle [9k\]: ok
nare [3k\]: :-)
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: thx again :)
al2 [8k\]: ok
Ellethael [19k\]: thanks a lot
iru [11k?\]: thanks
Shanti [-\]: thanks =)
jedi [15k\]: thx
spingle [9k\]: enjoy
willzhang [9d\]: thanks
ookamisan [19k?\]: thx a lot :D
Woodstock [-\]: thank you
Benjii [9k?\]: thx
nare [3k\]: thx
tobe30k [6k\]: tea break?
Misafir33 [12k\]: dont close window
Attitude [11k\]: i bet they will do only 4 moves
uchiha: thanks you very much
willzhang [9d\]: it is a pitty we cant see the fight I was looking for :(
spingle [9k\]: (she phoning matthew to tell him where to play)
Misafir33 [12k\]: lol
ookamisan [19k?\]: lol
tobe30k [6k\]: lol
Misafir33 [12k\]: is it possible ?
mironton [17k\]: lol no
Woodstock [-\]: welcome back
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: that was fast ^^
ookamisan [19k?\]: welcom eback
willzhang [9d\]: pothside live ,I hate this :)
jedi [15k\]: welcome
Misafir33 [12k\]: did you Call Matthew /
Small [?\]: too fast
Ellethael [19k\]: hi again ^^
nare [3k\]: you are fast
doerp [13k?\]: that was quick
Misafir33 [12k\]: lol
rayen [6k\]: ^^
bachibou: you drink too fast!
]
(;W[ll]CR[ll]
;B[mm]CR[mm]
;W[ql]CR[ql]C[rayen [6k\]: :(
Uberdude [8k\]: matthew wants to win by 0.5
Misafir33 [12k\]: 10 point lost and w gained 15 more points
rayen [6k\]: 12
Misafir33 [12k\]: 15 more points gained
]
(;B[kl]CR[kl]
;W[jm]CR[jm]C[Woodstock [-\]: now J5 weakness is gone
rayen [6k\]: N9 ?
Misafir33 [12k\]: L9
]
(;B[kk]CR[kk]C[Attitude [11k\]: yes
Attitude [11k\]: lol
rayen [6k\]: I hear you
pertoskyu [18k?\]: suggets it's lunch time
spingle [9k\]: can still hear you
Attitude [11k\]: arent you the owner?
Misafir33 [12k\]: i hear you, do you hear me :P
Small [?\]: perhaps the other game
Hu [12k\]: Game cloning will return when the BCshipRec returns.
bachibou: why to make the game complicated?
Woodstock [-\]: yes
Attitude [11k\]: yes
Hu [12k\]: Sound is good.
willzhang [9d\]: I guess black's looking for G7 cut
willzhang [9d\]: later
pertoskyu [18k?\]: W played m9
Attitude [11k\]: he is a beast
Attitude [11k\]: white played
]
(;W[lk]CR[lk]
;B[kj]CR[kj]C[Attitude [11k\]: he dident
Attitude [11k\]: yes
Misafir33 [12k\]: G7
Attitude [11k\]: resighn
Attitude [11k\]: XD
Ellethael [19k\]: ;-PP
bachibou: J9 
Meyerhold [13k\]: Q8?
spingle [9k\]: f11?
spingle [9k\]: e11 sry
al2 [8k\]: l12 ?
Attitude [11k\]: M10!!!
Denniskutl [9k\]: doesnt work i think
OhNo [3k\]: w M10
]
(;W[om]CR[om]C[Attitude [11k\]: HE PLAYED
]
;B[nl]CR[nl]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: w played m10
]
;W[lj]CR[lj]C[rayen [6k\]: nobi ^^
pertoskyu [18k?\]: k11
Attitude [11k\]: i will nobi
rayen [6k\]: 3 in a row is bad shape if w L11 
oniscoid [?\]: black wants to kill big white group top right
pertoskyu [18k?\]: lunch is 1.00 pm to 2.00 pm UK time
willzhang [9d\]: if he cant kill anything,he will be sad
pertoskyu [18k?\]: score estimator say B ahead by 4.5 points
pertoskyu [18k?\]: :)
pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes
pertoskyu [18k?\]: 10 mins to lunch
]
(;B[ki]CR[ki]C[Ranxerox [6k\]: is b e6 still a good move here or can w protect the g7 cut then?
]
(;W[ok]CR[ok]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: w p9 
Meyerhold [13k\]: N10 seems fun to me, maybe not good but fun.
Misafir33 [12k\]: ?
pertoskyu [18k?\]: w plays p9
]
(;B[mi]CR[mi]C[willzhang [9d\]: I like this move
bachibou: mtthiexw is a pittbull?
willzhang [9d\]: m11?
Attitude [11k\]: no
Attitude [11k\]: they are thinking
Attitude [11k\]: yes
Misafir33 [12k\]: when Guo is playing Moves seem very easy... omg..
Misafir33 [12k\]: and meaningful
willzhang [9d\]: meaningful is what eveybody should have done
OhNo [3k\]: w probably sealed his move now
Misafir33 [12k\]: Reading :(
Attitude [11k\]: yes
Attitude [11k\]: LOL
playm8 [6k?\]: self-destruct tesuji :D
bachibou: your voice is like betty boop Guo....
Attitude [11k\]: lol, i am good at those
Attitude [11k\]: i published a bood
oniscoid [?\]: thanx for the excellent commentary
Attitude [11k\]: thx
Attitude [11k\]: YES
willzhang [9d\]: Got to leave, see you. Nice teaching Guo,you are such a good teacher :)
Attitude [11k\]: lunch brake
Amateur [20k\]: Lunch brake now
Attitude [11k\]: cya
Misafir33 [12k\]: Perfect commentary...  Guojuan.. Thanks a lot
Attitude [11k\]: ok
mironton [17k\]: thx guojuan ! good teaching :)
al2 [8k\]: thanks, have nice lunch
quatschi [11k\]: ok thx
Amateur [20k\]: Thanks
pertoskyu [18k?\]: ok
Doko [8k\]: thank you
bachibou: bon apétit
Ellethael [19k\]: oki
OhNo [3k\]: Bon appetit
spingle [9k\]: c u
pertoskyu [18k?\]: see you in 1 hour
Ellethael [19k\]: thanks a lot =)))))
pertoskyu [18k?\]: bye
FrostDragn [5k\]: thx
Misafir33 [12k\]: what r we gonna eat :P
Ellethael [19k\]: bye
pertoskyu [18k?\]: what is its web address?
ookamisan [19k?\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com/
RickS [8k?\]: cheap =)
Misafir33 [12k\]: 1 euro 1 lecture ?
spingle [9k\]: yes
Misafir33 [12k\]: can i download or i can just listen ?
bachibou: french comment  too?
al2 [8k\]: oui Fan Hui donne des cours en francis :)
al2 [8k\]: francois *
Misafir33 [12k\]: If you need turkish.. i can help :P
Misafir33 [12k\]: cool
playm8 [6k?\]: bye
playm8 [6k?\]: thx for teaching us :)
Ellethael [19k\]: +++ bye and thanks a lot =))
Misafir33 [12k\]: cya thnx
spingle [9k\]: bye
Benjii [9k?\]: ++
Doko [8k\]: bye
al2 [8k\]: nye
rayen [6k\]: thx
nare [3k\]: bye
Balator [16k\]: thx c u
guojuan [5p\]: see you in 1h
sharakusai [2d\]: thx cu
partisan [14k\]: what is in one hour? pls
rayen [6k\]: the rest of the game
rayen [6k\]: its lunchbreak now for the players
weiqidevil [?\]: how long is lunch break?
FRaiSoo [6k?\]: yes
sobi [7k?\]: yes
nunul [9k\]: we're stille here ^_^
kuroitaiyo [13k\]: yes
partisan [14k\]: yup!
pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes we hear you
Fangs [13k\]: yes
GoFar [8k\]: yes
Fangs [13k\]: yes
Doko [8k\]: yes
Attitude [11k\]: yes
Fangs [13k\]: yes
Balator [16k\]: welcome back 
Hu [12k\]: Sound is good.
Fangs [13k\]: yes
doerp [13k?\]: yes
Doko [8k\]: hi again
pertoskyu [18k?\]: players have got back
Fangs [13k\]: of course yes
spingle [9k\]: hello
]
(;W[li]CR[li]C[rayen [6k\]: yes
pertoskyu [18k?\]: hello
FrostDragn [5k\]: o yeah!
toepk [30k?\]: yes
Amateur [20k\]: Yes
weiqidevil [?\]: yes
Fangs [13k\]: yes
]
;B[lh]CR[lh]
;W[mh]CR[mh]C[Attitude [11k\]: yews
pertoskyu [18k?\]: m11, m12, n12
rayen [6k\]: yup
pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes
Fangs [13k\]: yes
rayen [6k\]: complicated is interesting for us viewers :)
]
;B[ni]CR[ni]C[FrostDragn [5k\]: qho is playing who?
FrostDragn [5k\]: who*
spingle [9k\]: w is playing b
FrostDragn [5k\]: duh^^,names
]
(;W[kh]CR[kh]C[Attitude [11k\]: he did
FrostDragn [5k\]: k
]
;B[lg]CR[lg]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: this is game 1
FrostDragn [5k\]: thx
mkmkmk: N13 ?
rayen [6k\]: I would like n13
pertoskyu [18k?\]: the real game is being played in Epsom, Surrey over the board, 3 hrs per clock
Attitude [11k\]: O13
]
(;W[oi]CR[oi]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes
Attitude [11k\]: yes
Attitude [11k\]: now black can do what you said
Attitude [11k\]: yes?
]
(;B[nh]CR[nh]LB[mg:A]
(;W[ng]CR[ng]C[OhNo [3k\]: no by playing O13 atari
Nodan81 [10k\]: N13 
Nodan81 [10k\]: for b
Isobeutel [6k?\]: o13 played
]
(;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[mj]CR[mj]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: this is the game
]
(;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[oh]TR[oc][od][pd][oe][of][ng][og][oh][oi][mj][nj]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes they did
gogoyeti [?\]: are they alive??
OhNo [3k\]: b played P5
playm8 [6k?\]: black chose mess
]
(;B[oo]CR[oo]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: b has played P5
]
(;W[op]CR[op]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[pl]CR[pl]C[mkmkmk: always love...
]
(;B[jr]CR[jr]LB[ol:C][pl:D][oo:A][op:B]C[rayen [6k\]: doesnt seem M15  is completely alive to
rayen [6k\]: if b nobi O16 
mironton [17k\]: is b P10 bad ?
ChipMonk [13k\]: P10 pointless, I think
jjermann [15k\]: N12 first mironton
mironton [17k\]: k ty
ChipMonk [13k\]: 3 stones in atari
FrostDragn [5k\]: would r13 be sente 4 B?
jjermann [15k\]: then white answers
jjermann [15k\]: ko threat
FrostDragn [5k\]: yes
TblKBA [-\]: its a cut
TblKBA [-\]: when b fills N12 
Fangs [13k\]: how can we count this
Fangs [13k\]: ?
weiqidevil [?\]: with komi?
Attitude [11k\]: black has 47?
]
(;W[ir]CR[ir]C[Attitude [11k\]: around 47?
nunul [9k\]: B+16.5?
]
(;B[mp]CR[mp]C[Doert [3k\]: then g3
Attitude [11k\]: no
Amateur [20k\]: no
]
(;W[lr]CR[lr]LB[kr:A]C[Attitude [11k\]: WHITE WENT FOR THE KILL
rayen [6k\]: no  dont think so
rayen [6k\]: L2 ?
Nodan81 [10k\]: M3 
]
(;B[is]CR[is]C[ookamisan [19k?\]: black played
Attitude [11k\]: no
ookamisan [19k?\]: ah k
Isobeutel [6k?\]: not yet
Attitude [11k\]: mabe he has a plan?
Attitude [11k\]: White is trying to understand it too
Champion [2k\]: l2
Champion [2k\]: L2 
OhNo [3k\]: w N2 b M3 and b still looks alive
]
(;W[fr]CR[fr]C[jjermann [15k\]: F2 -> H5
Isobeutel [6k?\]: guo fall asleep ^^
Attitude [11k\]: lol
]
;B[ho]CR[ho]C[Attitude [11k\]: on the coffie cup
FrostDragn [5k\]: haha
Attitude [11k\]: mabe he can live any way? on the lower side
pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes looks that way
l20k [17k\]: f3 group and k2 group exchange, i think
Attitude [11k\]: the admin?
Attitude [11k\]: oh
Attitude [11k\]: LOL
]
(;W[io]CR[io]C[Attitude [11k\]: mabe in the over room?
NPcomplete [-\]: maybe the admin knows the boss ;-)
Attitude [11k\]: ok
Attitude [11k\]: it's OK
guojuan [5p\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com
]
;B[gm]CR[gm]C[sim2753 [10k\]: Has been a super talk Guo - thx!
al2 [8k\]: thanks a lot 
ookamisan [19k?\]: thx in advance
ookamisan [19k?\]: :)
xai [3k\]: thank you!
TheChill [15k\]: thanxs
jjermann [15k\]: aii
Attitude [11k\]: thank you
jjermann [15k\]: hehe
sim2753 [10k\]: LOL
pertoskyu [18k?\]: your commentary has been wonderful I hope you do the last one
Doko [8k\]: thank you
apagis [3k\]: thanks
OhNo [3k\]: maybe he wants a big trade
Doko [8k\]: bye
Attitude [11k\]: thank you very much
pertoskyu [18k?\]: you'll have to talk to MM and tell him to play better!
]
;W[do]CR[do]C[xai [3k\]: see you
pertoskyu [18k?\]: it's great news to know you'll be doing three
l20k [17k\]: this is 5p's comments
]
(;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
(;W[bl]CR[bl]
(;B[cl]CR[cl]C[l20k [17k\]: if u want c the game u can c it elsewhere
Misafir33 [12k\]: yep
isaka [-\]: yes
spingle [9k\]: yeah
Attitude [11k\]: yes
l20k [17k\]: i dont think h2 and make a connect
ChocoboVII [?\]: maybe B felt too secure because he was/is ahead
HikaShin [7d\]: sorry, Guojuan, black live at bottom yet?
HikaShin [7d\]: or still need a move?
l20k [17k\]: it's dead
spingle [9k\]: needs a move
Doert [3k\]: h2, h3, g2, h1, f1 so no connecting?
HikaShin [7d\]: that is what i thought
l20k [17k\]: guo, i think if white take n2 now black is dead ?
joachim [11k?\]: thx a lot
rayen [6k\]: Thx for commenting
caraoke [17k\]: thank you ^^
spingle [9k\]: goodbye ... thanks
isaka [-\]: thanks Guo, you are the best :)
Attitude [11k\]: thank you for the great comentary
jjacky [14k?\]: thank you
HikaShin [7d\]: Thanks GuoJuan
vonski [3k?\]: thank you
jjermann [15k\]: thank you!
nunul [9k\]: Thank you very much
ookamisan [19k?\]: thx for ur hard work :)
Balator [16k\]: thx very much
]
(;W[gn]CR[gn]LB[mr:A]C[jjermann [15k\]: D8
]
;B[dl]LB[dl:A][mr:D][hs:B][js:C]C[OhNo [3k\]: b looks alive to me anyway
ChocoboVII [?\]: Guo Juan, do you think B felt too sure and played slower moves because of this?
drbubble: mess-U-style :)
lior8121 [24k\]: somone up on 16.5 point
ookamisan [19k?\]: lol
rayen [6k\]: haha :D
ChocoboVII [?\]: thanks
OhNo [3k\]: How does w kill after w N2 b M3 ?
ChocoboVII [?\]: :
ChocoboVII [?\]: :\]
lior8121 [24k\]: who is matio
Attitude [11k\]: black
HikaShin [7d\]: in a way, black create this mess himself
Robitussin [5k?\]: the name is matthew
]
(;W[gl]CR[gl]C[OhNo [3k\]: How does w kill after b M3 ?
al2 [8k\]: is B N5 group alive here
isaka [-\]: N5 can not live?
al2 [8k\]: ?
ChocoboVII [?\]: he didn't play N2
]
(;B[hm]CR[hm]C[jjermann [15k\]: H7
jjermann [15k\]: sorry
ChocoboVII [?\]: matthew played H7
HikaShin [7d\]: he try to run
rayen [6k\]: hahaa
nunul [9k\]: sorry
Misafir33 [12k\]: hahaha
jjermann [15k\]: hehe
playm8 [6k?\]: omg lol ^^
egemen [-\]: ehehhe
HikaShin [7d\]: LOL
Misafir33 [12k\]: how cute
Isobeutel [6k?\]: loool
pertoskyu [18k?\]: Guo - you'll have to call MM after the game - he needs advice !
isaka [-\]: if W N2 B can not live?
jjermann [15k\]: hehe
HikaShin [7d\]: Guo, you must have a headache
Attitude [11k\]: lol
HikaShin [7d\]: I do I know
isaka [-\]: bye bye
rayen [6k\]: Have fun in France :)
HikaShin [7d\]: I start feel confusing about Matthew's play like long time ago
Misafir33 [12k\]: thnx Guo
Coralie [12k?\]: thank you
Attitude [11k\]: BYE
maltar [11k\]: thanx Guojuan
jjermann [15k\]: bye bye
ChocoboVII [?\]: thank you very much Guo Juan
ookamisan [19k?\]: thx a lot
Balator [16k\]: bye bye thx guo
richieb [14k\]: ty guo
autum [17k?\]: thx
Isobeutel [6k?\]: thx, cu
GoFar [8k\]: Thanks
Attitude [11k\]: THANK YOU
ookamisan [19k?\]: have a nice week
jjacky [14k?\]: thank you, good bye
Kagora [30k?\]: bye
caraoke [17k\]: zai jian :D
ChocoboVII [?\]: you're going to review it?
Attitude [11k\]: WHEN WILL BE THE OTHER 2 GAMES?
pertoskyu [18k?\]: thanks Guo - it's been delightful 
Doko [8k\]: thx bye bye
Kirua182 [21k\]: bye thanks
al2 [8k\]: thanks you
Ranxerox [6k\]: thx
jjacky [14k?\]: where can one see the original game? 
Attitude [11k\]: thank's
futur [10k?\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com/
nunul [9k\]: Thank you very much for your comments
ChocoboVII [?\]: should we all go in the other game?
Shimanara [8k\]: thank you ^^
Balator [16k\]: someone tell matthew plz ;-)
pertoskyu [18k?\]: we will send you the game
Attitude [11k\]: ok
rayen [6k\]: thx
pertoskyu [18k?\]: bye
Attitude [11k\]: CYA
Benjii [9k?\]: thx
Misafir33 [12k\]: cya haha
ookamisan [19k?\]: goood bye, guo, nice week
OhNo [3k\]: thank you ! bye
nare [3k\]: thx, bye
rayen [6k\]: bye :)
Doko [8k\]: see u
ookamisan [19k?\]: *wave*
Attitude [11k\]: bye
jjermann [15k\]: bye
maltar [11k\]: bye
Misafir33 [12k\]: how wise and cute lol
frel [?\]: misafir, have you seen her in real life? :)
al2 [8k\]: now we need one 9d to continue the comment :)
Balator [16k\]: fan hui needed ;-)
])
(;B[mr]CR[mr]TR[cj][bl][fo][ho][hp]C[egemen [-\]: :)
rayen [6k\]: :(
HikaShin [7d\]: hehe he didn't
jjermann [15k\]: no
ChocoboVII [?\]: matthew went out
Attitude [11k\]: NO
ExplO [-\]: no
jjermann [15k\]: J7
Attitude [11k\]: NOOOO
isaka [-\]: no H7
ExplO [-\]: he played h7
Isobeutel [6k?\]: h8
Attitude [11k\]: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
jjermann [15k\]: ohh
HikaShin [7d\]: look like he think the lower side is alive??
ChocoboVII [?\]: both miss it >_<
ChocoboVII [?\]: anyway I won't have seen it
]
;W[ej]CR[ej]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[fk]CR[fk]))
(;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[fs]CR[fs]
;B[gq]CR[gq]C[l20k [17k\]: h1 cut 
]
;W[gp]CR[gp]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[go]CR[go]C[lior8121 [24k\]: ok
]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[hs]CR[hs]C[OhNo [3k\]: b M3 looks alive
]
;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[hn]CR[hn]C[lior8121 [24k\]: she see our resots
]
(;B[gl]CR[gl]C[ChocoboVII [?\]: White didn't notice it
])
(;B[hl]CR[hl]C[Isobeutel [6k?\]: b got hoge center
ChocoboVII [?\]: this way B's center is big
jjermann [15k\]: is there no other way to make 2 eyes on the lower site for black?
Attitude [11k\]: WHITE PLAYED
Misafir33 [12k\]: 35
mkmkmk: P2 ?
Isobeutel [6k?\]: w played G8
joachim [11k?\]: b is ahead
joachim [11k?\]: :-)
muie [9k\]: w about 80 P
])))
(;W[mr]CR[mr])
(;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[ck]CR[ck]C[HikaShin [7d\]: so white extending liberty
]
(;W[bk]CR[bk]
;B[dk]CR[dk])
(;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[bk]CR[bk])))
(;B[]
;W[am]CR[am]
;B[br]CR[br]
;W[ar]CR[ar]))
(;W[gl]CR[gl]TR[mo]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[fs]CR[fs]))
(;B[]C[OhNo [3k\]: b can G8 now, perhaps - then live/cut
]
;W[mr]CR[mr]C[Attitude [11k\]: no
Attitude [11k\]: no
spingle [9k\]: w hasnrt played yet
Attitude [11k\]: he made the cut
Isobeutel [6k?\]: w cut
Attitude [11k\]: it's the uper branch
Isobeutel [6k?\]: in the game, w cut
spingle [9k\]: w played e6
jjermann [15k\]: D6 -> E6
]
(;B[hm]CR[hm]
;W[dn]CR[dn])
(;B[dn]CR[dn]C[Attitude [11k\]: this is not the game
jjermann [15k\]: B7
]
(;W[en]CR[en])
(;W[eq]CR[eq]
(;B[]
;W[br]CR[br]C[jjermann [15k\]: D6->E6->B7
]
;B[ds]CR[ds]
;W[bs]CR[bs]
;B[cs]CR[cs]
;W[fs]CR[fs])
(;B[ds]CR[ds]C[Attitude [11k\]: THIS IS NOT THE GAME, WHITE DIDENT N2 YET
]
;W[gn]CR[gn]C[Isobeutel [6k?\]: GUO; THOIS IS NOT THE GAME; W MADE THE CUT
]
;B[hn]CR[hn]
;W[hm]CR[hm]
(;B[fn]CR[fn])
(;B[gl]CR[gl]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[go]CR[go]C[jjermann [15k\]: don't shout!
Attitude [11k\]: lol
rayen [6k\]: stop shouting :p
Attitude [11k\]: LOL
NPcomplete [-\]: she's just showing some patterns, don't freak out
Attitude [11k\]: ok then
])))))
(;B[dn]CR[dn]C[Attitude [11k\]: when will the be?
]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[br]CR[br]
(;W[gl]CR[gl]
;B[mr]CR[mr])
(;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[hm]CR[hm])))
(;W[io]CR[io]LB[do:B][mr:A]C[l20k [17k\]: exchanged
jjermann [15k\]: he also can't cut to upper side? white alive anyway?
]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[hq]CR[hq]))
(;W[hs]CR[hs]
;B[js]CR[js]LB[of:1][ki:4][pn:3][fq:2][jr:5]C[rayen [6k\]: harder to play then to observe :p
rayen [6k\]: :D
weiqidevil [?\]: maybe black thinks that the white hane at k1 works, if he plays l2?
jjermann [15k\]: no
Isobeutel [6k?\]: no
OhNo [3k\]: w has played F2
jjermann [15k\]: F2
Isobeutel [6k?\]: w played f2
Attitude [11k\]: F2F2F2F2F2F2F2F2F2F2F2F2F2F2F
jjermann [15k\]: H5
]
(;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[do]CR[do]C[rayen [6k\]: why hane :S
])
(;W[mr]CR[mr]C[jjermann [15k\]: O3 doesn't do anything for white?
]
(;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[gs]CR[gs]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[hs]CR[hs]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en])
(;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[mq]CR[mq]))))
(;B[kr]CR[kr]C[Attitude [11k\]: M3
Misafir33 [12k\]: M1 ?
spingle [9k\]: what did you call l2?
Attitude [11k\]: godusme
Attitude [11k\]: NO
jjermann [15k\]: no
rayen [6k\]: hasnt played yet
jjermann [15k\]: we tell right away :)
Attitude [11k\]: they dident oplay
Attitude [11k\]: you mean admin?
Attitude [11k\]: you know you can open the other window to and then see if they play
Attitude [11k\]: that's what i'm doing
mkmkmk: still upper left corner can be invaded?
playm8 [6k?\]: black maybe reading if he can live in sente?
Attitude [11k\]: yep
rayen [6k\]: white is probably happy now :D
WhiteDeath [20k\]: living is not enogth
playm8 [6k?\]: black sees dead stones :-)
weiqidevil [?\]: n1?
Attitude [11k\]: no
Attitude [11k\]: 1 sec
Misafir33 [12k\]: u r 5p, how can we help ?
Attitude [11k\]: o1
Attitude [11k\]: XD
caraoke [17k\]: maybe H1 then black H2 white capture then b G2?
Attitude [11k\]: nope
al2 [8k\]: didn't Black play J1  instead of L2 ?
jjermann [15k\]: yes
Attitude [11k\]: yes he did
OhNo [3k\]: yes, but Guo is asking whether anyone can see a mobe for w here
Isobeutel [6k?\]: yes, but wee try to understand why he played j1
]
(;W[mr]CR[mr]C[rayen [6k\]: O3 
playm8 [6k?\]: O3?
jjermann [15k\]: still ko?
]
;B[nq]CR[nq]
;W[ns]CR[ns]C[FrostDragn [5k\]: p1?
]
;B[os]CR[os]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: N1
]
;W[ms]CR[ms]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[lq]CR[lq])
(;W[is]CR[is]C[spingle [9k\]: thnks
]
;B[]C[Attitude [11k\]: godsume*
]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[gq]CR[gq]C[Attitude [11k\]: i think XD
]
;W[fr]CR[fr]C[weiqidevil [?\]: guzum
]
;B[gr]CR[gr]C[joachim [11k?\]: guzumi
playm8 [6k?\]: ko?
]
(;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[ds]CR[ds]
;W[gs]CR[gs])
(;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[gs]CR[gs]C[jjermann [15k\]: ok
playm8 [6k?\]: ok
]))
(;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[mr]CR[mr]C[rayen [6k\]: no
])
(;W[ms]CR[ms]C[weiqidevil [?\]: dunno
]
(;B[mr]CR[mr]C[Attitude [11k\]: no good
])
(;B[ns]CR[ns]))))
(;W[do]CR[do]C[Doert [3k\]: w cut d5 than bf4
Attitude [11k\]: UKCshipRec [?\]: Matthew has used 1h37 mins of his 3 hours time. UKCshipRec [?\]: Bei has used 1h 45 mins.
Isobeutel [6k?\]: w played
Attitude [11k\]: white went for the killl
]
;B[dn]CR[dn]C[smed [10k\]: actually white play M2
Attitude [11k\]: ohhhh
]
;W[en]CR[en]C[saodiseng [1d\]: f4
]
(;B[bm]CR[bm]C[saodiseng [1d\]: here, f4
]
;W[bl]CR[bl]
;B[br]CR[br]
;W[fr]CR[fr]C[Virag0 [-\]: B+=A2 to defend on left corner?
]
;B[hl]CR[hl]
;W[hm]CR[hm]
;B[gl]CR[gl]
;W[gm]CR[gm]C[saodiseng [1d\]: why can't black fight ko?
Misafir33 [12k\]: who has good yose moves in this position ??
saodiseng [1d\]: f4 instead of b2
]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
;B[ek]CR[ek]C[Doert [3k\]: yes f4
])
(;B[gq]CR[gq]C[saodiseng [1d\]: even better :)
jjermann [15k\]: aii
Attitude [11k\]: yes
Doert [3k\]: :-)
jjermann [15k\]: M2 whit
]
(;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[gr]CR[gr])
(;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[fn]CR[fn]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[gp]CR[gp])))
(;W[]
;B[en]CR[en]
;W[em]CR[em]
;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[io]CR[io]
;B[hm]CR[hm]
;W[hn]CR[hn]
;B[gn]CR[gn]
;W[gm]CR[gm]
;B[hl]CR[hl]TR[lg][jh][ki]
;W[ik]CR[ik]
;B[hk]CR[hk]
;W[hj]CR[hj]
;B[gj]CR[gj]))
(;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[bl]CR[bl]
;B[br]CR[br]))
(;W[]
;B[mh]CR[mh]
;W[mf]CR[mf]
;B[kg]CR[kg]C[al2 [8k\]: b o16 => w n16
]
;W[]
;B[nd]CR[nd]C[rayen [6k\]: I see
]))
(;B[mp]CR[mp])
(;B[jr]CR[jr]))
(;W[op]CR[op]
;B[mh]CR[mh]
;W[oj]CR[oj]
(;B[pl]CR[pl])
(;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[pl]CR[pl]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[]
;B[pk]CR[pk]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[qh]CR[qh]
;B[rh]CR[rh]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[ml]CR[ml]
;B[nm]CR[nm])))
(;B[mh]CR[mh])
(;B[jr]CR[jr])
(;B[mp]CR[mp]TR[hf][if][ig][ih][hm]C[Nodan81 [10k\]: E11 big later?
]
;W[ir]CR[ir]
;B[]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[fr]CR[fr]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[hs]CR[hs])
(;B[oq]CR[oq]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[op]CR[op]
;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[no]CR[no]))
(;B[jh]CR[jh]C[FrostDragn [5k\]: strong*
partisan [14k\]: b did k12
pertoskyu [18k?\]: b has played k12
rayen [6k\]: b is 6d and w is 4d
WhiteDeath [20k\]: 6d & 4d
Amateur [20k\]: Black 6 Dan amateur White 4 dan amateur
]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[mh]CR[mh]
;W[oj]CR[oj]C[FrostDragn [5k\]: k, thx
]
;B[ho]CR[ho]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: w has played p12
]
;W[io]CR[io]
;B[gm]CR[gm])
(;B[oj]CR[oj]
;W[oh]CR[oh]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: w has just played n10
]
;B[mh]CR[mh]C[FrostDragn [5k\]: how trong r the players?
]
;W[kg]CR[kg]))
(;B[mg]CR[mg]C[OhNo [3k\]: if w N13
pertoskyu [18k?\]: no
pertoskyu [18k?\]: mm has not played after w at o13
]
(;W[mj]CR[mj]
;B[jh]CR[jh])
(;W[kg]CR[kg]
;B[mj]CR[mj]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: mm has not takenb yet
])
(;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[]
;B[oj]CR[oj]
;W[nk]CR[nk]
;B[oq]CR[oq]
;W[pq]CR[pq]C[WhiteDeath [20k\]: N13  have been played
playm8 [6k?\]: and upper side?
]
;B[op]CR[op]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes Black has played n13
]
;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[no]CR[no])))
(;W[mg]CR[mg]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: w plays o13 directly
]
(;B[mj]CR[mj]
;W[kg]CR[kg]
;B[mk]CR[mk]
;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[lh]CR[lh]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[ml]CR[ml]
;W[lh]CR[lh]C[OhNo [3k\]: b can connect to O15 perhaps
]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[md]CR[md]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[mb]CR[mb]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[ib]CR[ib])
(;B[kg]CR[kg]
;W[mj]CR[mj]LB[jh:A]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: .
])))
(;B[mj]CR[mj]
;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[nh]CR[nh]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: o9
]
(;W[ng]CR[ng]C[Attitude [11k\]: O13?
]
;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[mh]CR[mh]
;W[nk]CR[nk]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[oj]CR[oj]
;B[mp]CR[mp])
(;W[nk]CR[nk]C[Attitude [11k\]: black went on revers order
]
(;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[jh]CR[jh])
(;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[mg]CR[mg]))))
(;W[kg]CR[kg])
(;W[mg]CR[mg]C[weiqidevil [?\]: what about o9?
Attitude [11k\]: he ataried!!!!
pertoskyu [18k?\]: w playesp11
Amateur [20k\]: W played
Attitude [11k\]: OPS
Attitude [11k\]: he hane
Attitude [11k\]: he played
pertoskyu [18k?\]: p11 for w
]))
(;W[oi]CR[oi]
;B[mj]CR[mj]
;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[nh]CR[nh])
(;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[mj]CR[mj]
;W[kh]CR[kh]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: Matthew McFadyen (B) playing Bei Ge (W) in British Go Championship
pertoskyu [18k?\]: best of 5 games
]))
(;W[li]CR[li]C[guojuan [5p\]: 1h
weiqidevil [?\]: thx
sim2753 [10k\]: Is there an easy way to play back through the game plus variations?
spingle [9k\]: 2 options
spingle [9k\]: depending on wether you want the comments to make sense or not
spingle [9k\]: best is to wait for guijuan to publish it
spingle [9k\]: otherwise you can just save it and browse at leisure
spingle [9k\]: omg cant ty[e
spingle [9k\]: lol
sim2753 [10k\]: how to save?
spingle [9k\]: options
spingle [9k\]: save to disk above this window
sim2753 [10k\]: its not a selectable option the way i am looking at it
spingle [9k\]: :/
Tadakichi [?\]: you need the client probably
spingle [9k\]: are you using the web browser to connect?
sim2753 [10k\]: think so
spingle [9k\]: or you can clone the game
spingle [9k\]: then you should be able to browse
sim2753 [10k\]: if you clone you only get the main line
sim2753 [10k\]: and no comments
spingle [9k\]: oh
spingle [9k\]: have you actually tried?
spingle [9k\]: because you do
spingle [9k\]: no comments tho but you get all the variations
spingle [9k\]: (but the coments wouldnt make sense anyway as they will be out of synch with the variations)
sim2753 [10k\]: you are right - thanx
spingle [9k\]: np
zelda314: what is the diviene move
Fangs [13k\]: pk y' pas de son?
Fangs [13k\]: why there is no sound?
jjermann [15k\]: break I suppose
Fangs [13k\]: ah ok
Fangs [13k\]: thx
Amateur [20k\]: Parce que ils sont en pause déjeuner
Fangs [13k\]: ^^
Amateur [20k\]: Et que la commentatrice aussi, du coup
FireFox04 [9k\]: what is this?
FrostDragn [5k\]: sooo, we jus twait until lunch brake`s over?
ChipMonk [13k\]: apparently >_>
FrostDragn [5k\]: :(
ChipMonk [13k\]: But it doesn't matter to me :)
weiqidevil [?\]: black is ahead, no?
]
(;B[lh]CR[lh]
;W[mh]CR[mh]C[Spirali [17k\]: Matthew is big fighter
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: problems
mironton [17k\]: pitbull is shy compared to mathiew
Misafir33 [12k\]: ?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: nvm its a lag
Nodan81 [11k\]: sound?
willzhang [9d\]: as a person who watch only
bachibou: sound?
Ellethael [19k\]: here too
Misafir33 [12k\]: music
Spirali [17k\]: i dont hear you Guo 
willzhang [9d\]: big lag
spingle [9k\]: reconnect
Attitude [11k\]: i did
Misafir33 [12k\]: hi
Misafir33 [12k\]: yes
willzhang [9d\]: ok now
grossebaf [4k?\]: yep
Nodan81 [11k\]: yes
al2 [8k\]: yes
Spirali [17k\]: is ok
mironton [17k\]: yup
Ellethael [19k\]: more or less
FrostDragn [5k\]: yes
Attitude [11k\]: so i missed it X(
]
;B[ni]CR[ni]C[Spirali [17k\]: Lag
]
;W[oi]CR[oi]
;B[nh]CR[nh]
;W[mg]CR[mg]C[Ellethael [19k\]: laaaag
]
;B[mj]CR[mj]
;W[kh]CR[kh]C[OhNo [3k\]: b M13
Attitude [11k\]: can you repeat that?
])
(;B[ba]CR[ba]))
(;W[nk]CR[nk]
;B[ni]CR[ni]
;W[oi]CR[oi]
;B[oj]CR[oj]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
;B[qj]CR[qj]
;W[li]CR[li]
;B[lh]CR[lh]
;W[mh]CR[mh]C[oniscoid [?\]: all thru the game black wants to kill big white group in top right :)
Uberdude [8k\]: they have lunch breakk soon
]
;B[nh]CR[nh]
;W[mg]CR[mg]LB[kh:A]))
(;B[mp]CR[mp]C[Attitude [11k\]: they played
OhNo [3k\]: Matthew has played
Attitude [11k\]: N11
]
(;W[do]CR[do]C[Hikaruwaya [13k\]: very nice ^-^
]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]C[Denniskutl [9k\]: now f4
Denniskutl [9k\]: F4 E3 F2 H3 
willzhang [9d\]: unfortunately D5 doesnt work
Doert [3k\]: f4 b
]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[eq]CR[eq]C[Denniskutl [9k\]: F4 E3 F2 G3 H3 
]
;B[fr]CR[fr]C[Doert [3k\]: g3
]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[hq]CR[hq]C[Denniskutl [9k\]: yes
]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[hr]CR[hr]C[playm8 [6k?\]: that's the sequence i posted half an hour ago ^^
Attitude [11k\]: yes
])
(;W[fr]CR[fr]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: W = Shapeless :P
])))
(;W[]C[Attitude [11k\]: yes
rayen [6k\]: B9 seems like a good tesuji for center after b cut w in 2
]
(;B[ok]CR[ok]
;W[li]CR[li]
;B[kh]CR[kh]
;W[lh]CR[lh])
(;B[lh]CR[lh]
(;W[]
;B[nh]CR[nh]C[szystkogra [1d\]: n12 instead m11?
])
(;W[mh]CR[mh]
;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[nh]CR[nh]
;B[li]CR[li]
;W[mi]CR[mi]
;B[ok]CR[ok]
(;W[md]CR[md])
(;W[oi]CR[oi])))))
(;B[ki]CR[ki]TR[ie][if]C[mironton [17k\]: b
bachibou: D13 
Attitude [11k\]: close
Attitude [11k\]: equel
rayen [6k\]: I like b
pertoskyu [18k?\]: how do you count territory in the centre?
pertoskyu [18k?\]: or is there none?
szystkogra [1d\]: hi again
Misafir33 [12k\]: there is no point center
])
(;B[ji]CR[ji])
(;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[io]CR[io]
;B[gm]CR[gm]))
(;W[]C[Attitude [11k\]: but he has no time  for it
]
(;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[pk]CR[pk])
(;B[lj]CR[lj]
;W[nl]CR[nl]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[pl]CR[pl]C[mironton [17k\]: time to white to swet
]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[ok]CR[ok]
;B[pk]CR[pk]))
(;W[lj]CR[lj]
(;B[ki]CR[ki])
(;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[io]CR[io]
;B[gm]CR[gm]))
(;W[gm]CR[gm]C[rayen [6k\]: seems to passive
Attitude [11k\]: resign*
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: yeah Resign looks good :P
Woodstock [-\]: H8
])
(;W[pl]CR[pl]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: W p7?
ookamisan [19k?\]: what about something like G11 or that dicection?
]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[lj]CR[lj]
(;B[]C[onurb [?\]: L12
])
(;B[nl]CR[nl]
;W[ol]CR[ol]
;B[]C[Attitude [11k\]: N4?
spingle [9k\]: maybe o2
rayen [6k\]: seems w can force from L2 
Attitude [11k\]: p3
Misafir33 [12k\]: W p7 i said haha
Attitude [11k\]: no no way
]
;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[lp]CR[lp]C[al2 [8k\]: l12 or N12 for w ?
nunul [9k\]: M2?
bachibou: N2 ?
]
;W[mr]CR[mr]C[Attitude [11k\]: N2?
Attitude [11k\]: black lives
nunul [9k\]: ko?
]
(;B[no]CR[no])
(;B[lr]CR[lr]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[jr]CR[jr])))
(;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: they played
Attitude [11k\]: he played
]))
(;W[]
;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[io]CR[io]
;B[gm]CR[gm]LB[kl:A]))
(;B[mk]CR[mk]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: he played L9
]
;W[kk]CR[kk]
;B[jl]CR[jl])
(;B[oq]CR[oq]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[op]CR[op]
;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[no]CR[no]))
(;B[]
;W[rj]CR[rj]
;B[ri]CR[ri]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: 14
]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[qh]CR[qh]
;B[rh]CR[rh]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[qb]CR[qb]C[Attitude [11k\]: White is still behined
Attitude [11k\]: ?
doerp [13k?\]: 12
Misafir33 [12k\]: yes
])
(;B[rk]CR[rk]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[pq]CR[pq]C[doerp [13k?\]: 15
pertoskyu [18k?\]: 19
]
;B[ps]CR[ps]
;W[qs]CR[qs]
;B[os]CR[os]
;W[qr]CR[qr]C[Attitude [11k\]: 18
Misafir33 [12k\]: 17
Attitude [11k\]: ok
rayen [6k\]: 16-17 ish
]))
(;W[ib]LB[db:A]TR[ib][jc]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: you drank tea that fast? are you all right ^^?
Nodan81 [11k\]: hmmm
Shanti [-\]: J18 ??
doerp [13k?\]: k18
lordofpi [4k?\]: h17
rayen [6k\]: H18 ?
willzhang [9d\]: N18?
OhNo [3k\]: K18 looks ok
al2 [8k\]: my tea is not ready yet
Shanti [-\]: lol
doerp [13k?\]: yes
Uberdude [8k\]: H17 
Woodstock [-\]: H18 works, too right?
szleski [16k\]: h17
pertoskyu [18k?\]: g18
bachibou: H18 ?
nunul [9k\]: H18?
jedi [15k\]: g18
Attitude [11k\]: no
Misafir33 [12k\]: F18?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: dont think so
Misafir33 [12k\]: may be
ookamisan [19k?\]: unlikely
rayen [6k\]: no
willzhang [9d\]: ha ,i got it ,J19 works
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: cool words ^^
Uberdude [8k\]: but can get sente monkey jump
pertoskyu [18k?\]: f19 looks possible
Attitude [11k\]: 4
jedi [15k\]: monkey jump
Attitude [11k\]: vs
Attitude [11k\]: 5
Misafir33 [12k\]: b;ack
doerp [13k?\]: b
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: B
rayen [6k\]: black
mironton [17k\]: G19 ?
pertoskyu [18k?\]: k17 group
pertoskyu [18k?\]: b
Attitude [11k\]: W 4 VS B 5
]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[kb]CR[kb]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: yeap
Attitude [11k\]: yes
doerp [13k?\]: yes
pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes
Misafir33 [12k\]: clearly
ookamisan [19k?\]: yap
Attitude [11k\]: very goof
Woodstock [-\]: yes, less aji in any way
Ellethael [19k\]: yop
Attitude [11k\]: good*
OhNo [3k\]: w M8 b N7 have been played
Misafir33 [12k\]: if w G19 jump ?
eS0rven [19k\]: MONKEY JUMP ,
eS0rven [19k\]: ?
Uberdude [8k\]: mokey doesn't work, use sacrifice
eS0rven [19k\]: ok
]))
(;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[om]CR[om]C[Uberdude [8k\]: was hane at q7 wrong?
]
;B[rm]CR[rm]C[Uberdude [8k\]: nobi better?
]))
(;B[nq]CR[nq])
(;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[qr]CR[qr]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[rr]CR[rr]
;B[nq]CR[nq])
(;B[on]CR[on]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[rm]CR[rm]
;B[rl]CR[rl]
;W[sn]CR[sn]
;B[mp]CR[mp]C[Attitude [11k\]: 16
BlueOne [5k\]: 16
vinc42 [6k\]: 17
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 14
iru [11k?\]: 16
Misafir33 [12k\]: 15
rayen [6k\]: 18
Woodstock [-\]: 18
]))
(;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[ro]CR[ro]C[DrOlczyk [14k\]: Maybe they don't want to English food.
]
;W[on]CR[on]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[nm]CR[nm]C[Shanti [-\]: lol
al2 [8k\]: lol
]
;B[mp]CR[mp]))
(;B[ro]CR[ro]C[Shanti [-\]: =)
Attitude [11k\]: we hear you
Hu [12k\]: Keep going.
tnt4ever4 [8k?\]: we dp
]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[ql]CR[ql]C[tetris [-\]: i'm getting repeats of parts of pphrases--can't understand a thing
]
;W[om]CR[om]
;B[pl]CR[pl]TR[on]C[Shanti [-\]: leave and come back
Misafir33 [12k\]: hi
BlueOne [5k\]: yes
Nodan81 [11k\]: yes
iru [11k?\]: hi#
Attitude [11k\]: yes
rayen [6k\]: who is playing ?
Nodan81 [11k\]: we hear
iru [11k?\]: ok
mironton [17k\]: yes
Woodstock [-\]: lous and clear
szystkogra [1d\]: yes
Misafir33 [12k\]: yes clearly
Hu [12k\]: sound is good.
pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes we hear you
Misafir33 [12k\]: first one
szystkogra [1d\]: first
Misafir33 [12k\]: to help L:eft group
szystkogra [1d\]: white toos trong
al2 [8k\]: W wall is dangerous
willzhang [9d\]: give up R6 :)
nunul [9k\]: leaves aji
Woodstock [-\]: white gets too strong on the outside
pertoskyu [18k?\]: second is safer - keeps lead
szystkogra [1d\]: :-)
al2 [8k\]: willzhang [9d\]: give up R6 :) seems good idea too
])
(;B[po]CR[po]
;W[on]CR[on]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[oo]CR[oo]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[rm]CR[rm]
;B[rl]CR[rl]
;W[om]CR[om]C[nunul [9k\]: a kosumi? it's so surprising
]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[rn]CR[rn]C[spingle [9k\]: if sound dies for you try reconnecting
]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[sm]CR[sm]C[al2 [8k\]: this one
]
;W[lr]CR[lr]C[szystkogra [1d\]: i think too b die!!!
])
(;B[on]CR[on]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[rm]CR[rm]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
(;B[mp]CR[mp])
(;B[en]CR[en]C[Balator [16k\]: san san for Matthew
Misafir33 [12k\]: B played R3
]))
(;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[on]CR[on]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[ro]CR[ro]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[lp]CR[lp]))
(;W[]C[icqohoh: lol he is 9d :)
]
(;B[ff]CR[ff])
(;B[oq]CR[oq]))
(;W[ff]CR[ff]C[BuddyL [7k?\]: willzhang strong guy
]
;B[fg]CR[fg]C[willzhang [9d\]: good move :)
])
(;W[no]CR[no]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: MM is amateur 6 Dan (BGA rating)
]
;B[mp]CR[mp]C[icqohoh: i dont think he can be weak :P
]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[mr]CR[mr])
(;W[mp]CR[mp]
;B[lp]CR[lp]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: HU ^^
]
(;W[ln]CR[ln]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: N2
]
;B[mq]CR[mq]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: Bei Ge is amateur 4D (BGA rating)
])
(;W[mr]CR[mr]LB[io:A]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: yes
l20k [19k\]: is bei ge a chinese ?
HikaShin [7d\]: take cash first and still attack
Misafir33 [12k\]: can black do M7 now ?
pertoskyu [18k?\]: UK citizen, but ethnically chinese
]
;B[lm]CR[lm]C[icqohoh: P6 P5 
Nodan81 [11k\]: b should start with K6 For J5 ?
icqohoh: are good?
Attitude [11k\]: yes they played
HikaShin [7d\]: they played
]))
(;W[pn]CR[pn]C[willzhang [9d\]: Q6 maybe
Misafir33 [12k\]: is White a strong player ? what do you think  according to this game ??
]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[om]CR[om]C[tnt4ever4 [8k?\]: now i can hear
]
;B[pl]CR[pl]C[tomii: bru-der
icqohoh: is guojuan speaking?
]
;W[mp]CR[mp]C[tomii: yes
icqohoh: why cant i hear it?
Attitude [11k\]: yes
spingle [9k\]: reconnect
icqohoh: sure
Osmosis [-\]: Leave the game and reenter
Amateur [20k\]: W played
alphauser: his official rating is 5 or 6d
Osmosis [-\]: It's a common glitch
alphauser: u can google him
pertoskyu [18k?\]: w played q6
uchiha: has matthew ever beaten you?
Misafir33 [12k\]: he is not Wise may be new ?
spingle [9k\]: guijuan generally knows when w has played as it flashes
alphauser: lol
Attitude [11k\]: they played
spingle [9k\]: *Guojuan
Attitude [11k\]: let's see XD
alphauser: where did he learn to play?
tnt4ever4 [8k?\]: i am back
playm8 [6k?\]: it's still a valid question tho :-)
OhNo [3k\]: we have Q7 R7
HikaShin [7d\]: white start another fight
Misafir33 [12k\]: They played 
]
;B[lp]CR[lp]C[willzhang [9d\]: M2?
]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[nq]CR[nq]C[icqohoh: both of them are guojuan :)
]
;B[lr]CR[lr]))
(;B[mq]CR[mq]C[konemies [3d?\]: is this live?
Attitude [11k\]: yes
HikaShin [7d\]: hold on let here explain
HikaShin [7d\]: Her*
willzhang [9d\]: Her move is great
Denniskutl [9k\]: is b E6 necessary to save f5 stones?
Attitude [11k\]: yes
bachibou: what if m2 now?
Misafir33 [12k\]: M2
bachibou: what if m2 first?
]
(;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[fg]CR[fg]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[hh]CR[hh]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: game is between Matthew McFadyen (B) v Bei Ge. The game ius being played across the board in Epsom, Surrey 
bachibou: seems floating
])
(;W[mo]CR[mo]C[Nodan81 [11k\]: M4 
]
;B[lr]CR[lr]
(;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[jr]CR[jr])
(;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[lo]CR[lo]
;B[lp]CR[lp]
;W[ms]CR[ms]
;B[ls]CR[ls]
;W[ns]CR[ns]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[os]CR[os]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[oq]CR[oq]C[HikaShin [7d\]: clapse
]
;W[qr]CR[qr]
(;B[op]CR[op])
(;B[ps]CR[ps]
;W[qs]CR[qs]
;B[mr]CR[mr]
;W[ps]CR[ps]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[oo]CR[oo]C[tnt4ever4 [8k?\]: she is so strong
]
(;B[sr]CR[sr])
(;B[rr]CR[rr]
;W[rq]CR[rq]
;B[sr]CR[sr]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[so]CR[so]
;B[sq]CR[sq]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: 5p isnt it normal
]
;W[rs]CR[rs]
;B[sn]CR[sn]))))))
(;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]C[willzhang [9d\]: we always want more :)
icqohoh: it is going to be intersting
Misafir33 [12k\]: ?
]
;B[gq]CR[gq]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: idea about what ?
]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[gr]CR[gr]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[go]CR[go]
;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[br]CR[br]
;W[ar]CR[ar]))
(;B[en]CR[en]
;W[]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[el]CR[el]C[willzhang [9d\]: another room
tomii: its here
]
(;B[fl]CR[fl])
(;B[dk]CR[dk]C[tomii: ukc
Amateur [20k\]: second game from the bottom
icqohoh: guojuaan is playing?
Amateur [20k\]: In games list
]))
(;B[mq]CR[mq]C[bachibou: WHAT IF m2,
icqohoh: for white , is good?
icqohoh: no
Amateur [20k\]: Can B use the double cut in P3 ?
]
;W[]
;B[rp]CR[rp]C[icqohoh: E13 
])
(;B[]
;W[ff]CR[ff]C[icqohoh: nice
icqohoh: very nice
playm8 [6k?\]: black not just F12?
icqohoh: E10 for w?
Rasd [14k\]: ohh
ken3214 [8k\]: is it a real game?
]
;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[ig]CR[ig]C[HikaShin [7d\]: yes, it's going on right now
]))
(;W[]
(;B[mq]CR[mq]LB[ke:A][bq:B]C[willzhang [9d\]: maybe it is the time to find a way for white to win this game,seems impossible
icqohoh: w can live
icqohoh: i dont think more of white chocies :)
CardCaptor [8k\]: living is not enough
icqohoh: i know
icqohoh: O10 
icqohoh: that stone can help
icqohoh: i think
bachibou: K6 ,
icqohoh: if he could connect it
icqohoh: to gain some thickness
willzhang [9d\]: chaos
]
;W[]C[icqohoh: what?
]
;B[oq]CR[oq])
(;B[io]CR[io])))
(;B[io]CR[io]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: Does Matthew have at least 1p power ?
icqohoh: who is matthew?
icqohoh: lol willzhang :)
inuyashi [17k\]: oh
bachibou: j5 is the best?
icqohoh: when does the lecture started?
willzhang [9d\]: howabout H3
Misafir33 [12k\]: Dont you scare cutting ?
inuyashi [17k\]: do you have a title/
inuyashi [17k\]: ?
icqohoh: why there are 2 same games?
Attitude [11k\]: UKCshipRec [?\]: Bei stands up to walk around
HikaShin [7d\]: one is explanation
icqohoh: ok
icqohoh: i dont understand
HikaShin [7d\]: this one is explanation by Ms. GuoJuan 5p
icqohoh: is it a lecture?
inuyashi [17k\]: where is the suer camp?
bachibou: where?
icqohoh: or a game?
inuyashi [17k\]: summer*
guojuan [5p\]: Bermont
inuyashi [17k\]: ok
bachibou: Whith departement?
Misafir33 [12k\]: 1 euro per audio Lectures?
bachibou: *whitch?
Attitude [11k\]: yes
inuyashi [17k\]: ok
guojuan [5p\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com
Attitude [11k\]: give the site
willzhang [9d\]: seems black is hidding his eager for blood,waiting for a better chance 
Attitude [11k\]: this is your site?
tudorus [-\]: what about g2 for black?
icqohoh: what happend?
Attitude [11k\]: lol
inuyashi [17k\]: how much the summer camp costs?
willzhang [9d\]: light  is weak also
inuyashi [17k\]: does*
inuyashi [17k\]: i went
icqohoh: what?
inuyashi [17k\]: didn't see
tudorus [-\]: b2 instead of j5?
DrOlczyk [14k\]: want a more challenging game.
icqohoh: i dont understand willzhang
tudorus [-\]: g2 i mean
willzhang [9d\]: light ==weak or weak == light
inuyashi [17k\]: i see
icqohoh: so heavy is strong?
Misafir33 [12k\]: they played
willzhang [9d\]: not that easy to find out which is the correct describe
Nodan81 [11k\]: icqohoh is only trolling
Attitude [11k\]: it is for all levels?
icqohoh: shapeup just made me confuse :)
]
;W[ho]CR[ho]C[icqohoh: while b is heavy
]
;B[gp]CR[gp]C[icqohoh: :)
])
(;B[ho]CR[ho]C[willzhang [9d\]: Uk chanmpion?
icqohoh: u mean charles matthes , the one who wrote the books?
spingle [9k\]: lol
willzhang [9d\]: ...
Misafir33 [12k\]: 21 years
PrettyWeak [4d\]: haha..
spingle [9k\]: r u a troll?
icqohoh: lol , i don know :(
tomii: who is strongest in world at the moment?
Uberdude [8k\]: charles matthews only 3dan
bachibou: how old is he?
isaka [-\]: 50+
icqohoh: he is 5 i think :)
Misafir33 [12k\]: Matthew 1963 
Uberdude [8k\]: macfadyten is stonger
yonghakun [6k?\]: 53
inuyashi [17k\]: are you coming to the congress in italy?
bachibou: thx
willzhang [9d\]: Lets say ,he is the man who rule UK  now :)
Attitude [11k\]: Bei has used 58 mins, Matthew 52
])
(;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[no]CR[no]
(;B[ko]CR[ko]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]C[icqohoh: nice
]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[hn]CR[hn]C[Ronaldinh0 [14k\]: bomber
]
;B[fp]CR[fp]C[icqohoh: w is light
])
(;B[lr]CR[lr]
;W[nr]CR[nr]C[icqohoh: why?/
]
;B[jr]CR[jr]
;W[ir]CR[ir]
;B[ks]CR[ks]
;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[mo]CR[mo]C[Balator [16k\]: he wants a new fight ;-)
])))
(;W[br]CR[br]C[icqohoh: is it aa question?
]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[bs]CR[bs]C[isaka [-\]: B2 bomber :)
]
;W[ar]CR[ar]
;B[cs]CR[cs]))
(;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[br]CR[br]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[bs]CR[bs]))
(;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]C[playm8 [6k?\]: so white notices he is losing every fight he starts, so the best thing is to fight some more? :)
]
(;B[er]CR[er])
(;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[bl]CR[bl]
;B[er]CR[er])))
(;W[hq]CR[hq]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: naa not realy ^^
Attitude [11k\]: lol
]
;B[jo]CR[jo]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: No willzhang  Matthew is an Angel
Small [?\]: icecream
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: black just want to win safly
tomii: can you beat box guo?
Attitude [11k\]: yes he does
willzhang [9d\]: is angel the person who take you to heaven?
Misafir33 [12k\]: yes
Misafir33 [12k\]: actually hell
Small [?\]: marry him
playm8 [6k?\]: yet a cold-blooded killer on the board?
willzhang [9d\]: seems white has alot of groups not alived :)
]))
(;B[]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: ^^
willzhang [9d\]: just a fream for white :)
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : If there is any chance for white to kill the C12 group... This would be the last chance
KaiouKun [-\]: hahha
spingle [9k\]: they have always been important
willzhang [9d\]: sorry to ask, who's in this game?
Misafir33 [12k\]: Namii another one for ur list :P
Attitude [11k\]: lol
Attitude [11k\]: add me too
nodan [1k?\]: F16 G16 F14 
FRaiSoo [6k?\]: (look at the second game from "games")
Chwing [3d?\]: his rank?µ
Uberdude [8k\]: matthew macfadyen 6d vs bei ge 4d (white)
al2 [8k\]: Mattew against x?
isaka [-\]: McFayden vs Bei Ge
Chwing [3d?\]: ok
Spirali [17k\]: matthew is black????
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: white might be scared here
Uberdude [8k\]: but 5d strength
Kaiu [11k\]: (Sorry everybody, lunchtime in family, end of writing :)
Spirali [17k\]: thx
Uberdude [8k\]: bei ge is young i think, so rank lower than strength
ArCosH [5k\]: white is beige ?
willzhang [9d\]: mathew is strong :)
Kaiu [11k\]: Thank you very much Guojuan.
bv4 [7k?\]: thx kaiu
]
(;W[dg]CR[dg]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
;W[ck]CR[ck]
;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[eg]CR[eg]
;B[fh]CR[fh])
(;W[fe]CR[fe]C[willzhang [9d\]: dream*
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : In the middle game, if we have stones that are oriented towards the center, they can make a real difference. This game is a perfect example of this principle.
]
;B[fg]CR[fg]TR[je][jf]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: shining
tomii: shiinnnneeey
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : Game seems over now. Black has no real weak group. 20 points ahead. Good power to counter white. 
KaiouKun [-\]: Kaiu 
KaiouKun [-\]: ggagagag
FRaiSoo [6k?\]: ...
KaiouKun [-\]: a am kaiouKun
KaiouKun [-\]: not you
Misafir33 [12k\]: were tose 2 stones become inportant suddenly or Matthew made them important ?
Misafir33 [12k\]: those
KaiouKun [-\]: you mess ewda ganfgngng
])
(;W[do]CR[do]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[br]CR[br]
;B[er]CR[er]LB[aq:3][ar:2][bs:1]TR[cn][dn][bo][co][bp][bq][br]SQ[cq][dq][cr]C[ChocoboVII [?\]: A4
al2 [8k\]: b1
Druft [10k\]: c1
Misafir33 [12k\]: c1 here first
Midorya [3k\]: A4 
XXpericoXX [2k\]: e3
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: hapens :)
playm8 [6k?\]: so actually white is ahead now? :p
isaka [-\]: now that might be confusing in Go :)
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: no ^^
ChocoboVII [?\]: how do you spell it in Chinese?
Hu [12k\]: Right and left confusing even for native English speakers ^^
Misafir33 [12k\]: hehe
Isobeutel [6k?\]: loool
mironton [17k\]: Oo
playm8 [6k?\]: and this is how new continents were discovered :D
ChocoboVII [?\]: Fan Hui has problems too :)
spingle [9k\]: yes my girlfriend cant navigate either ;)
isaka [-\]: lol
playm8 [6k?\]: maybe you need GPS or something :)
Uberdude [8k\]: matthew played
ArCosH [5k\]: there are always two rights and lefts
Nyanjilla [-\]: semeai
]
(;W[cs]CR[cs]
;B[ds]CR[ds]
;W[bs]CR[bs]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[fp]CR[fp]C[Chryz [11k\]: B1
]
;B[aq]CR[aq])
(;W[ap]CR[ap]C[Rambam [11k\]: c4
Misafir33 [12k\]: lol didnt you say kill white :P
Small [?\]: B7 
Rambam [11k\]: ah a4
Misafir33 [12k\]: what if b play B7 now ?
tomii: respond at a5
Fangs [13k\]: capturing race = semai?
tomii: if white a4 then black a5?
bachibou: A3 ?
lormee [12k\]: haha!
inuyashi [17k\]: power
Amateur [20k\]: What about A3?
]
(;B[ao]CR[ao]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: now B B7?
ChocoboVII [?\]: B's dead
Rambam [11k\]: b6
ChocoboVII [?\]: B6
playm8 [6k?\]: A6
al2 [8k\]: atari
Uberdude [8k\]: remember black passed in this variation
]
;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[aq]CR[aq]
;W[an]CR[an]C[Isobeutel [6k?\]: b6
])
(;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[ao]CR[ao]
;B[bn]CR[bn]
;W[bl]CR[bl]C[Attitude [11k\]: he played
playm8 [6k?\]: reading
bachibou: A3 before?
Misafir33 [12k\]: Make more liberties
ChocoboVII [?\]: sente and gote
Attitude [11k\]: liberties
inuyashi [17k\]: the liberties
Misafir33 [12k\]: keep sente
BALLZ [17k\]: which stones are fighting and their liberties
lormee [12k\]: hi
Ash [17k\]: count liberties
al2 [8k\]: count liberti #1
isaka [-\]: who's fighting who
Misafir33 [12k\]: SENTE
inuyashi [17k\]: reading
Attitude [11k\]: yes
playm8 [6k?\]: so we're learning how to fight in reality too? ^^
tomii: so back to the game, how close will it be?
spingle [9k\]: lol
mironton [17k\]: let's learn sun tzu
]))
(;W[bm]CR[bm]
;B[bs]CR[bs]))))
(;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[bp]CR[bp]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[br]CR[br]
;B[er]CR[er]C[isaka [-\]: you make it sound so easy, Guo, great :)
]))
(;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[fp]CR[fp]C[Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : The way white defends is actually helping black
]
;W[cq]CR[cq]
;B[er]CR[er]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[fr]CR[fr]
;B[ds]CR[ds]
;W[gr]CR[gr]))
(;W[ep]CR[ep]
;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[eo]CR[eo]))
(;B[cl]CR[cl]
;W[ej]CR[ej]
;B[eh]CR[eh]
;W[gj]CR[gj]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[kp]CR[kp]
(;B[ij]CR[ij]
(;W[fh]CR[fh]
;B[fg]CR[fg]
;W[gh]CR[gh]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: now black looks realy good
]
;B[qq]CR[qq])
(;W[rp]CR[rp]))
(;B[qq]CR[qq])))
(;B[lq]CR[lq]C[Attitude [11k\]: the door?
WhiteDeath [20k\]: D14 
pertoskyu [18k?\]: q8?
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : Black must think about breaking / destroying the white plan
]
(;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[lo]CR[lo]C[Uberdude [8k\]: <- sneaks a look at game, so f5!
Misafir33 [12k\]: hehe m3 or m13 ?
]
;W[nn]CR[nn]
;B[io]CR[io])
(;W[lp]CR[lp]C[Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : We have two ways : Black M3
]
;B[mq]CR[mq]
;W[kp]CR[kp]
;B[pr]CR[pr]TR[je][jf]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: hehe
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: shiny  ^^
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : In this position, the triangle stones are shiny here
tomii: haha
]))
(;B[dk]CR[dk]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: maybe  even tengen
playm8 [6k?\]: K10?
playm8 [6k?\]: :p
Misafir33 [12k\]: M13 ? to kill moyo and attack w ?
]
;W[eo]CR[eo]
;B[dn]CR[dn]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[dm]CR[dm]
;W[fl]CR[fl]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: or p6?
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: lot of moyo
])
(;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
;B[jo]CR[jo]C[Ash [17k\]: dual purpose move (f5)
]))
(;W[pl]CR[pl]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[pk]CR[pk]
;B[qk]CR[qk]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[qh]CR[qh]
(;B[qd]CR[qd]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: 21 points on rt
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
]
;W[rd]CR[rd]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 26 i think
]
;B[ro]CR[ro])
(;B[rh]CR[rh]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[qb]CR[qb]C[ChocoboVII [?\]: 18
Misafir33 [12k\]: 20
miraje [2k\]: 20?
bachibou: 22
Attitude [11k\]: 22
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
Misafir33 [12k\]: yay!
Attitude [11k\]: yes
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
fas [-\]: 20
hikaru9d [?\]: 22
]))
(;W[mb]CR[mb]C[TheClown [1d\]: cant black hope to get e18?
Attitude [11k\]: but an enclosure of two stones is equel 15? 
]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[ga]CR[ga]
;B[ha]CR[ha]
;W[fa]CR[fa]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 14 :P
]
;B[hb]CR[hb]C[Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : Let's count. White plays like this
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 13 
Attitude [11k\]: 10
Misafir33 [12k\]: 11
Attitude [11k\]: yes
iru [11k?\]: ok
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 11 .
bachibou: only 11
Attitude [11k\]: 33
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 33
Misafir33 [12k\]: 35
isaka [-\]: 15 ?
Misafir33 [12k\]: 15
TheClown [1d\]: is e/18/f18 white privilege solely
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 12
Attitude [11k\]: 15
]
;W[bn]CR[bn]
;B[bo]CR[bo]
;W[er]CR[er]C[Rambam [11k\]: 12 :S
grossebaf [4k?\]: 11
]
;B[dr]CR[dr]C[ChocoboVII [?\]: 8
Iduna [17k\]: 12
pertoskyu [18k?\]: 10 at max, 8 certain
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[cp]CR[cp]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 12 
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : 11 is very good. With the 22 of the right side this is 33/35 . Now the corner
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 11 now ^^
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 44
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : 11 points in this way
Misafir33 [12k\]: 35+11 = 46
bachibou: 47
pertoskyu [18k?\]: 12+ 22+11=45
])
(;W[]C[GrandMoche [11k\]: 14
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: black can easily invade there
zilliq [10k\]: 5
onlyGo [11k?\]: mark and copy guojuan: (including space) hit ctrl+c and then just ctrl+v .. saves a lot of time
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : 11/12 points maximum in the top left corner for white
]
;B[eb]CR[eb]C[uchiha: 15
miraje [2k\]: 13
Attitude [11k\]: 20?
]
;W[cc]CR[cc]C[Iduna [17k\]: 13
Isobeutel [6k?\]: 12
]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[bf]CR[bf]C[zilliq [10k\]: 12
iru [11k?\]: 15
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : Now we count white territory. Beginning with the corner
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: 14
Attitude [11k\]: 14
Misafir33 [12k\]: 14
bachibou: 15
LapinFou [-\]: 14
]
;B[af]CR[af]
;W[ae]CR[ae]C[Amateur [20k\]: 13
]
;B[ag]CR[ag]C[Rambam [11k\]: 4
]
;W[bd]CR[bd]C[mironton [17k\]: about 13
Attitude [11k\]: 12
Misafir33 [12k\]: 11 hmm
])
(;W[rp]CR[rp]
;B[lq]CR[lq]
;W[nq]CR[nq]C[uchiha: 23
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: not nothing...
])
(;W[lp]CR[lp]C[isaka [-\]: 26 pts
Misafir33 [12k\]: 46
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojuan : On bottom, there is two opened points. We must estimate. 15 to 20 is all right. Very good counting
bachibou: 31 maxi
BlueOne [5k\]: komi ?
Misafir33 [12k\]: b
Isobeutel [6k?\]: b
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: B 
bachibou: B by 10
]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[rp]CR[rp]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[rr]CR[rr]
;W[qr]CR[qr]
;B[rq]CR[rq]C[miraje [2k\]: estimate half moyo?
miraje [2k\]: 15-20?
]))
(;W[kd]CR[kd]C[Kaiu [11k\]: (5d pro)
]
;B[kc]CR[kc]C[hikaru9d [?\]: what is 5p
]
;W[hd]CR[hd]C[Celila [14k?\]: no audio anymore
Misafir33 [12k\]: Nami haha ^^
]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[hc]CR[hc]C[Celila [14k?\]: oh it's back
Namii [-\]: ah, lag
Kaiu [11k\]: I answered you hikaru
bachibou: N15 
]
;B[me]CR[me]C[Celila [14k?\]: [bye bye\]
]
;W[lf]CR[lf]C[doruk [15k\]: f15?
]
;B[lg]CR[lg]
;W[mf]CR[mf]
;B[nf]CR[nf]
;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[mh]CR[mh]
;B[nh]CR[nh]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: thnx Celila
Spirali [17k\]: Please I come now Can you tell me who is who
Akhwah: bye thanks celila
Shanti [-\]: yeah
Bell [9k\]: thx
Bell [9k\]: cu
bv4 [7k?\]: thx
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: still looks good for white
Kaiu [11k\]: Bye Celila, thank you
]
;W[md]CR[md]C[Infostuden [11k\]: thx
]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes you are clearly audihble
pertoskyu [18k?\]: yes#
Spirali [17k\]: who is who in game pls
]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[ob]CR[ob]C[Shanti [-\]: looks good for black
]
;B[ib]CR[ib]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[ia]CR[ia]C[hikaru9d [?\]: you speak english
]
;W[oi]CR[oi]
;B[ni]CR[ni]C[WhiteDeath [20k\]: he played
Attitude [11k\]: HE PLAYED
Attitude [11k\]: HE GOT SCARED
Misafir33 [12k\]: yes
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: yes
FRaiSoo [6k?\]: yup
BlueOne [5k\]: yes
Akhwah: yes
Kaiu [11k\]: Yes
hikaru9d [?\]: you speak hebrpw
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: all good
iru [11k?\]: ok
Attitude [11k\]: yes
justmyluck [5k?\]: yes
Elandal [12k\]: yes we hear you
Benedictu5 [30k?\]: yes
weiqidevil [?\]: yes
Spirali [17k\]: yea hear
Hu [12k\]: Sound is good.
MaxPowa [13k\]: i can ehear fine
Attitude [11k\]: THEY PLAYED
FRaiSoo [6k?\]: ...
]))
(;B[hc]CR[hc]C[FRaiSoo [6k?\]: =)
pertoskyu [18k?\]: nobi is extend?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if they play like this, b just plays k18 and would get sente
Uberdude [8k\]: no
Attitude [11k\]: no
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: b played h17
Attitude [11k\]: no one played yet
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: he wona read his way to victory
]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[je]CR[je]
;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[kc]CR[kc]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: let's read this out
Kaiu [11k\]: Guojan : A fight, yes, but what will be the outcome of a fight ? Back to the first intent : what does K14 keima achieve ? Waht purpose? (This is for the part Celila missed :p)
]
;W[hd]CR[hd]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[gc]CR[gc]C[Celila [14k?\]: thank kaiu, someone flooding in the egr
]
;B[me]CR[me]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: black realy in truble
]
;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[he]CR[he]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[mf]CR[mf]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[mg]CR[mg]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: w escapes.. and on this side, should we push like that?
]
;W[lh]CR[lh]
;B[mh]CR[mh]
;W[md]CR[md]C[ChocoboVII [?\]: P16 in trouble
Misafir33 [12k\]: Right side is bigger
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: w kills this thing, but the other side is dead.. so this looks good for b
]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[mb]CR[mb]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[lb]CR[lb]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: but here is a cut
]
;B[li]CR[li])
(;B[hd]CR[hd]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: that's what i'm reading in my mind.. so let's see ..
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: it feels like atari is the right thing to do
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan:  i think w cuts too early here
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: i don't think so.. so the cut looks too early for me, w is not strong enough
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: what does w have now? nothing ...
]
(;W[jb]CR[jb]
;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[gc]CR[gc])
(;W[kc]CR[kc]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: is there anything else for w? i don't see anything, w doesn't have enough liberties like this
]
;B[jb]CR[jb])
(;W[je]CR[je]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so i would nobi (is this how you spell it) this move
]
;B[jb]CR[jb]
;W[ie]CR[ie]C[FRaiSoo [6k?\]: (nobi, yes.)
Celila [14k?\]: thanks fs ^^
]
;B[lq]CR[lq]C[A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: black free hand
])))
(;W[ie]CR[ie]C[french3kyu: (gujan has a beautiful voice :-)
]
;B[je]CR[je]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: after w escapes, i would feel very nervous
]
;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[kc]CR[kc]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[jc]CR[jc])
(;W[je]CR[je]
;B[ie]CR[ie]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: two ways, one like this, w cuts b
]
;W[kc]CR[kc]
;B[kd]CR[kd]C[Shanti [-\]: yeah
]
;W[jd]CR[jd]
;B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[kb]CR[kb]LB[jf:A]C[FRaiSoo [6k?\]: yes i told her :)
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: the other way, directly push and then like this
ChocoboVII [?\]: difference between a 5p and a high dan player :p
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: we have to read out all this, when we play a keima
])
(;W[hc]CR[hc]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[gc]CR[gc])
(;W[me]CR[me]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if w doesn't kill b immediately, this cut is really bad, w has this move g17, is very very strong, takes away b's eyeshape
Namii [-\]: well he didn't speak hebrew, but he still earns a spot in my censor list for being israel
]
(;B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[pm]CR[pm]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[qm]CR[qm]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if w simply defends at n15, what does b have to play?
]
;W[lp]CR[lp]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: no
])
(;B[gd]CR[gd])
(;B[jd]CR[jd]C[MaxPowa [13k\]: <censors namii>
])))
(;B[]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if b answer then w gets d18 for free
]
;W[db]CR[db]C[Infostuden [11k\]: please!
Akhwah: but wont take over today
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this is about base, if white comes here and b doesn't have eyes anymore, b has to answer
]
;B[]C[Iduna [17k\]: attack the heavy white group? somethng like j or k14?
]
;W[hc]CR[hc]C[Akhwah: i wish i had your speed celila
bv4 [7k?\]: please?
Celila [14k?\]: chat more :P
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: attak on black
Akhwah: will do xD
])
(;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[cc]CR[cc]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[cd]CR[cd]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this is very big, so as black i would try this
]
;B[eb]CR[eb]C[bachibou: more secure
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this is joseki so i get half the corner, get very very strong
]
;W[ci]CR[ci]
;B[lq]CR[lq]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so w has to play another move here, and black has sente
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: for example invade here
]))
(;W[gc]CR[gc]TR[md]C[doruk [15k\]: whats the response of white to m3?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: since the game started with a move like this, q16, and we get the move f17 as black, then the game is still alright
Attitude [11k\]: no
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: no
Attitude [11k\]: too big
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: can b kill the white group?
MaxPowa [13k\]: no, but can chase it
WhiteDeath [20k\]: yea
A30K4EvEr [25k?\]: not realy
isaka [-\]: B looks a bit light on the left
WhiteDeath [20k\]: he can push
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: do you fee in danger as white?
Hu [12k\]: Thick.
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: too big? that is no reason
miraje [2k\]: not yet
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if a group is very long, it is difficult to kill, but here it is that black is not strong enough
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: therefore, it is so important to close the door
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if we look at the white stones, they don't do much
bachibou: W have to fight now?
]
(;B[ic]CR[ic]LB[id:A]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: r11, i wouldn't have played, i would have been worried that w plays g17
bachibou: N16 better than M15?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so if i were white i would go at g17
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: because now if b answers, this makes j16 look very strange
bachibou: N16 orM15 ?
MadKongo [9k\]: what if after black f17 then white trys to invade around g17?
Misafir33 [12k\]: perfect example
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so you have a company, in an office 5 people are working together, and one guy is not working at all and the pile of work is on the shoulders of those 4 people.. they have to work much much harder
Attitude [11k\]: yes
mover [5k\]: one of them is on kgs
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so on a go board, every single stone has to work, if one is not doing his stop then we will have a harder time
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if black has this A move sitting here and drink coffee then we have a little problem :)
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: go is about efficiency
pertoskyu [18k?\]: good explanation
Attitude [11k\]: yes
])
(;B[]
;W[ib]CR[ib])))
(;B[fc]CR[fc]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: may be he is underestimating his opponent now ?
]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[qi]CR[qi]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: often he plays a move that suprises me "ah that will be easy" .. then he plays and i think "whoops, i'm dying"
]
;W[rg]CR[rg]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[pb]CR[pb]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
;B[kb]CR[kb]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: as black i can still play at r11 afterwards
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so it's still ok for black, white is not making any territory
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: and it's not alive yet
]
;B[mi]CR[mi]
;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[lq]CR[lq]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: we can scare w a little bit
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: the we invade at m3 if w escapes
Celila [14k?\]: then*
]))
(;W[gc]CR[gc])
(;W[]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: black wants f17, so c14 is the wrong side
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: both players want to play at the top side
]
(;B[fc]CR[fc]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: the door is here, g17
])
(;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[gc]CR[gc])))
(;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[kc]CR[kc]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this is joseki, huh?
]))
(;B[]
;W[rp]CR[rp]C[Attitude [11k\]: MIAI
Attitude [11k\]: it's miai
]
(;B[pl]CR[pl]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: 2 doors open - 1 is closing - now walk in through the other one
]
;W[lp]CR[lp]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: we have to be clear, when one door is closed, we have to _immediately_ go in
])
(;B[lq]CR[lq]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: we can't ignore here, now we have to go in
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: too big if we ignore
]
;W[ql]CR[ql]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: don't forget
]
;B[pl]CR[pl]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: don't defend here, give up this stone, and go in
bachibou: ok
Small [?\]: what if a room has only 1 door, should you still enter ?
Attitude [11k\]: yes
]))
(;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
(;B[qd]CR[qd])
(;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[lc]CR[lc]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[of]CR[of]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: for example ...
]
;B[qf]CR[qf]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[oe]CR[oe]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[gc]CR[gc]
;B[id]CR[id])))
(;B[rp]CR[rp]C[Shanti [-\]: it's ok
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qk]CR[qk]C[bachibou: yes
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: ok, some people can't hear my audio comments?
isaka [-\]: loud & clear
]
;W[fq]CR[fq]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: but w played a bit further, black can still go to the right
pertoskyu [18k?\]: audio good
iru [11k?\]: audio is ok
Bell [9k\]: yes
])
(;B[pk]CR[pk]C[sohvan [-\]: hard to build a moyo from a 3-3 stone.
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: q9?
]
;W[qi]CR[qi]))
(;B[nq]CR[nq]TR[co][dq][iq]C[bachibou: P5 ?
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so everyone is playing this move now, o3 .. exactly this shape, with the corner and w at j3
]
(;W[lq]CR[lq]LB[pn:2][qq:1]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: and w can go a bit further, and black goes in, like o3
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: one of the popular openings here
]
(;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[oq]CR[oq]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this would be normal
]
;B[qn]CR[qn]C[bachibou: fight here
])
(;B[pn]CR[pn]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if he wants to make the position on the right side higher, because r17 is already low
]
;W[np]CR[np]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: then you can play this joseki
]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[qq]CR[qq]C[Small [?\]: amazing
]
(;W[no]CR[no]
;B[qk]CR[qk])
(;W[]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[no]CR[no]
;W[op]CR[op]C[weiqidevil [?\]: cool
Shanti [-\]: ok
])))
(;W[oq]CR[oq]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: to the right* (pardon)
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so black jumps in at o3, because that's too much territory for w
]
;B[np]CR[np]
;W[pn]CR[pn]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this are the choices for black
]
;B[kq]CR[kq]
;W[fq]CR[fq]C[Celila [14k?\]: these*
]
;B[gp]CR[gp]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: a long time ago people played like this, then pros found g4
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: then black attacks and w is not even alive, so w has to defend and black can go to the left
]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[ip]CR[ip]
;W[hp]CR[hp]
;B[ho]CR[ho]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[go]CR[go]
;B[hn]CR[hn]
(;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[ql]CR[ql])
(;W[]
;B[fo]CR[fo]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[fn]CR[fn]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: then w defends, if w doesn't
]))))
(;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[nq]CR[nq]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: this is only the 6th move, but very important already
]
;W[pn]CR[pn]
;B[jp]CR[jp]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: for example like this
KinoNoTabi [12k?\]: ^*^ 3
])
(;W[jq]CR[jq]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: very big for black, very good combinations, so w has to play here
]
;B[qn]CR[qn]))
(;AB[jc][pd][qj]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: w gets a perfect shape then
Shanti [-\]: w?
]
;B[]
;W[qc]CR[qc]
;B[qd]CR[qd]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[ob]CR[ob]C[Misafir33 [12k\]: is it bad ?
]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[nb]CR[nb]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: for example, black star point with double low wings, then w plays san-san
]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[rd]CR[rd]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[qf]CR[qf]TR[jc][qj]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: then this joseki everyboday knows
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: and now you can see that these two stones are not in good shape
weiqidevil [?\]: inefficient
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan:  too low, not good for development of the thickness
])
(;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[qq]CR[qq]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: but that is too slow, i don't really want that
]
(;W[kq]CR[kq])
(;W[kp]CR[kp]
;B[iq]CR[iq]C[Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: so let's go back
]
;W[kq]CR[kq]LB[kp:A]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[db]CR[db]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[ic]CR[ic]
;B[kc]CR[kc]
(;W[ed]CR[ed])
(;W[ie]CR[ie])
(;W[id]CR[id]C[french3kyu: or pince
Misafir33 [12k\]: no
Celila [14k?\]: guojuan: if black plays at l17, we ignore black, or we play here or there, but not j16
Rambam [11k\]: no
ChocoboVII [?\]: not really
fire1 [14k\]: no
pertoskyu [18k?\]: no
weiqidevil [?\]: no
Bell [9k\]: no
Attitude [11k\]: 30k do
Small [?\]: only if i am leading
]))))
