(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[10800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
DT[2006-09-24]PC[The K Go Server (KGS) at http://www.gokgs.com/]
(;B[pd]
;W[dc]
;B[qp]C[rayen [2k\]: yes !
]
(;W[np]C[Javaness [2k\]: Hello
DrOlczyk [9k\]: MacFayden
rayen [2k\]: Bei Gei is black
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Mathew is White.
Javaness [2k\]: Bei Ge is black
digikid [10k\]: Lower left, eh?
areal [7k\]: upper left corner approach?
Javaness [2k\]: I thought Black should play at D4
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Look for something in lower right that gives sente.
rayen [2k\]: maybe possible to tenuki ?
digikid [10k\]: I prefer 3-4 in evry game
Hagu [2k\]: possible yes, but i think its not reccomended
TonyTiger [1k\]: black should resign
]
(;B[dq]C[Jebus [1d\]: rofl
]
;W[qq]C[Jebus [1d\]: show us the good stuff
XshindokaX [16k\]: guo talking now?
]
(;B[ce]C[digikid [10k\]: one again is made
Jebus [1d\]: Simple is boring tho, Guo
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(;W[di]C[rayen [2k\]: Be Gei is black :P
rayen [2k\]: Bei Ge
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: yup :S
]
;B[fe]
;W[gc]
;B[rq]C[TonyTiger [1k\]: OH no
]
;W[pq]C[Javaness [2k\]: O4 looks silly?
]
(;B[pp]C[Nezrif [6k\]: looks pretty low at the edge
KakureKage [17k\]: it really makes me laugh and thats a good thing XD
]
;W[op]C[digikid [10k\]: What's hane somebody?
simpkin [11k\]: digikid - "bending round" or a diagonal against the other colour
tudorus [2d\]: aji keshi
Nezrif [6k\]: So should black have played another move than Q5 in that area or just tenuki?
digikid [10k\]: OK
]
(;B[ro]C[digikid [10k\]: P4*
papamisha [1d\]: why not p6
papamisha [1d\]: sorry q6
digikid [10k\]: I'd prefer Q5 here...
]
(;W[kq]C[TonyTiger [1k\]: how to handle M3?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: weak points
Hagu [2k\]: but l4 kills m3
Hagu [2k\]: but it leaves aji for later..
]
;B[co]C[darkwings [11k\]: hi
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(;W[cg]LB[ch:1]TR[cg][di]C[CherryB [21k\]: hi :D
Jebus [1d\]: is this joseki?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: yup
dipsi [18k\]: f13
sheva [23k?\]: f16 ?
sheva [23k?\]: e16 sorry ?
Jebus [1d\]: c13 is joseki?
digikid [10k\]: I see... I don't know about that :(
]
(;B[dd]C[dipsi [18k\]: e13
digikid [10k\]: wow.. 
]
;W[cc]
;B[ec]
;W[eb]C[Nezrif [6k\]: C9 exchange bad for white
]
(;B[fb]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: and thick
simpkin [11k\]: black's actual moves - look insane to me ... 
]
;W[fc]
;B[ed]C[sheva [23k?\]: next W d9
ScudRunner [11k\]: what is the point of F18?  seems like a dead stone as soon as it's played
simpkin [11k\]: forces a response, I guess, ScudRunner
]
;W[db]LB[hc:A]C[Ordiac [4k\]: duuuuh
Ordiac [4k\]: wow great
XshindokaX [16k\]: H18?
digikid [10k\]: I see...
sepsis [10k\]: that's amazing
]
;B[he]C[blueshoe [3k\]: good sacrifice
]
(;W[id]
;B[ck]C[playmore [3d\]: do you prefer D16 or E16?
Nezrif [6k\]: H17 is bigger than C8 because it weakens white????
rayen [2k\]: yes
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: as you said~
mamolo [6k\]: is this still joseki?
Nezrif [6k\]: thx
crazyfish [18k\]: yep
NONONO [7d?\]: i see
digikid [10k\]: C9?
digikid [10k\]: Looks weird..
rayen [2k\]: maybe the game is even now ^^
digikid [10k\]: If I'm W I'll place at D9
digikid [10k\]: D7*
pengin [4d\]: i think b is better
Nezrif [6k\]: L17 big for black?
dipsi [18k\]: d9??????
dipsi [18k\]: D9
tal1991 [11k\]: b11 
SerJO [8k\]: i saw  
dipsi [18k\]: D9
simpkin [11k\]: months ago, anyway
Javaness [2k\]: I will look on the website
rayen [2k\]: was exciting game though
Javaness [2k\]: http://www.britgo.org/bchamp/2006/
Javaness [2k\]: you can see a picture of the players
FatJoe [-\]: Game 1.  Saturday July 8th
blueshoe [3k\]: nice!
koroshiya [4k\]: where's the site for the first game?
koroshiya [4k\]: i mean, the commented record
dipsi [18k\]: D9???
Nezrif [6k\]: L17 too far for black?
simpkin [11k\]: koroshiya - you can get it at the link Javaness just said
guojuan [5p\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com
dipsi [18k\]: D9
digikid [10k\]: L17? I think I don't get the point...
koroshiya [4k\]: ok... thanks
crazyfish [18k\]: what should w do now?
mamolo [6k\]: something lighter is good, not?
Nezrif [6k\]: D9 tsuke?
]
(;W[fi]
(;B[hi]C[simpkin [11k\]: v0ndutch - bei doesn't think so, apparently ...!  
Nezrif [6k\]: aggressiv
dipsi [18k\]: F9
digikid [10k\]: Nice???
digikid [10k\]: Can't get it :S
dipsi [18k\]: F9
Javaness [2k\]: I think Black likes to fight a lot also
crazyfish [18k\]: isn't h 11 a little too aggressive
koroshiya [4k\]: H10 maybe
dipsi [18k\]: F9???
Spacemen3 [4d\]: not too agressive
digikid [10k\]: G13?
Nezrif [6k\]: E8
digikid [10k\]: No...
digikid [10k\]: Bad
dipsi [18k\]: F9
Wfreedom [4d\]: ?
DrOlczyk [9k\]: E8
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: it's a good move~
Auge [11k\]: F9 E10 is not really a way to escape
dipsi [18k\]: F9
bouboubou [3k\]: g14 
Javaness [2k\]: ok
doerp [10k\]: e9
dipsi [18k\]: F9
bigfatcat [3k\]: great#
Nezrif [6k\]: I'd say E8
tzui1: e9
digikid [10k\]: Ok~~
gomastar [11k\]: E8
laurents [4k\]: E9?
dipsi [18k\]: F9
Nezrif [6k\]: though I'd probably played D9 ^^
koroshiya [4k\]: H10 and crosscut for maximum chaos :p
dipsi [18k\]: F9
gomastar [11k\]: E8 IS GOOD
rayen [2k\]: I think w should settle directly
digikid [10k\]: E9 safer?
Spacemen3 [4d\]: but how, rayen?
Nezrif [6k\]: E8 looks best to me
rayen [2k\]: atleast make 1 eye
dipsi [18k\]: F9???????????
rayen [2k\]: f13 
ScudRunner [11k\]: F13 is my first instinct....prolly too small though
koroshiya [4k\]: w should find a way to get out without fumbling up C7 aji
Auge [11k\]: dipsi. F9 -> E10 and it is cutted
laurents [4k\]: oD9 lets B reinforce C9: no C7 possible afterwards
rayen [2k\]: if w run out it might help blacks left side
ScudRunner [11k\]: i like H10, lots of fighting spirit
gomastar [11k\]: E8
Spacemen3 [4d\]: F13 doesn't have much of a followup
dipsi [18k\]: D9
Javaness [2k\]: what about C6
Lacrimosa [1k?\]: auge, it's not that simple
theoff [5k?\]: G14?
simpkin [11k\]: what about tenuki?
rayen [2k\]: hm
Nezrif [6k\]: what about one idea after another?
Javaness [2k\]: tenuki is reckless
deviant [2d?\]: definitely not tenuki..
blueshoe [3k\]: c7 or e8 
deviant [2d?\]: black would continue with g9
emk [3k\]: tenuki would be internet go ^^
simpkin [11k\]: Java - so - characteristic of both players, then?  
Papagenosa [?\]: tebuki is not an option
koroshiya [4k\]: w is pretty heavy if he can't cut
Nezrif [6k\]: c7 provokes black to play E9 which'd be bad
TotoroShan [5k\]: F 9
Spacemen3 [4d\]: maybe D9
Nezrif [6k\]: I'd say E8 to threaten C7
Nezrif [6k\]: and run
dipsi [18k\]: C8?
Nezrif [6k\]: E8
]
(;W[hh]C[KakureKage [17k\]: is the live game at move 32?
koroshiya [4k\]: G12
rayen [2k\]: ah
Nezrif [6k\]: that's the game
bouboubou [3k\]: yes
Spacemen3 [4d\]: I thought this was no good...
rayen [2k\]: maybe he wants to get strong shape and attack c9 
Nezrif [6k\]: it follows automaticly
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: yay!~!
blueshoe [3k\]: this looks good too!!!!
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: that what i thout he'll do!
andsok75 [5k\]: is Matthew black?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: thought*
tmc [-\]: So what does black do now?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: yay!~!
simpkin [11k\]: no, Matthew's white, Bei's black
Spacemen3 [4d\]: just J12
ScudRunner [11k\]: this will be nasty and forceful....
Nezrif [6k\]: hm
Spacemen3 [4d\]: looks like B gets strengthened
koroshiya [4k\]: j12 and w will crosscut?
Nezrif [6k\]: this move's good
Spacemen3 [4d\]: I wouldn't play like this
sheva [23k?\]: I think
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: this is gonna be a cool fight
Nezrif [6k\]: it lowerrs L16 value i think
sheva [23k?\]: B should J15 first
rayen [2k\]: I prefer b
sheva [23k?\]: then H11
LaMomia [9k\]: Question: no comments by guojuan?
crazyfish [18k\]: why not g12
sheva [23k?\]: this is better
Kilik [4k\]: ok
Spacemen3 [4d\]: me neither, H12 looks very bad 
]
;B[ih]C[digikid [10k\]: Answer: I don't know
]
;W[gh]C[Nezrif [6k\]: hi
LaMomia [9k\]: or it will be after the game?
digikid [10k\]: Welcome*
tmc [-\]: of course
rayen [2k\]:  
digikid [10k\]: Take some breath
Kilik [4k\]: sure
simpkin [11k\]: you'd get a heck of a sore throat!  
]
;B[ig]
;W[ii]
;B[hj]
;W[ji]
;B[ie]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: no~
simpkin [11k\]: he's chinese
]
(;W[jd]C[simpkin [11k\]: his wife has decided shes likes England more so he's stuck here
Javaness [2k\]: simpkin was talking about Bei Ge
simpkin [11k\]: yes, Bei is Chinese
Zahlman [4k\]: who are the players again? o_O
]
(;B[kf]TR[di][hi][ii][ji][hj]C[simpkin [11k\]: Zahlman - Black is Bei Ge, White is Matthew Macfadyen
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white looks so dead
Lcjs [8k\]: oooh
Lcjs [8k\]: neat  
KakureKage [17k\]: how i hear the audio
digikid [10k\]: No audio?
digikid [10k\]: Maybe you can restart the client
GoKlaus [?\]: try to connect again
]
(;W[dk]C[KakureKage [17k\]: off
]
(;B[cl]C[Javaness [2k\]: so black tries to keep sente here?
]
(;W[ik]
;B[hk]
;W[hl]C[rayen [2k\]: b seems a little heavy
]
;B[gl]
;W[il]
(;B[fk]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: :S
Javaness [2k\]: white must take gote?
]
(;W[ek]C[koroshiya [4k\]: w could block the b11 invasion in that shape with a move like b14
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: table~
Javaness [2k\]: black is BeiGe 5d
simpkin [11k\]: Bei Ge is Black
digikid [10k\]: I got 5  
]
(;B[gn]C[Javaness [2k\]: I gained 2 stones
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: quite painful for white
]
(;W[dm]C[ShadowSinz [16k\]: cant hear clearly =X
simpkin [11k\]: I gained 5 so ner, Java 
Spacemen3 [4d\]: I like very much that you can now challenge someone even if you have a game up...
blueshoe [3k\]: i gained three stones!
]
(;B[cm]LB[cj:A]C[simpkin [11k\]: potentially 5 more hours, digi
yaniro [12k\]: indeed digikid
simpkin [11k\]: 3 hours *each*
simpkin [11k\]: and they'll have a lunch break
digikid [10k\]: 5 more?
digikid [10k\]: Oh yeah...
simpkin [11k\]: potentially
digikid [10k\]: 2x3= 6
digikid [10k\]: Lol
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: after all still wana go back
]
(;W[fm]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this is no good to get out like this
bouboubou [3k\]: to destroy B teritory ?
]
;B[gm]C[zengcheng [2d\]: C10
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: when we have a group we leave
miyuu [1d\]: if the group cant live, just go make a new group. I do that all the time :O
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if we can make life immediately make life
chochopper [6k\]: now black or white better?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: instead of damaging around
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: tell him miyuu :D
Melancolie [2k\]: what would has been white's answer to black c11 ?
simpkin [11k\]: could the Black group get cut off and die?
simpkin [11k\]: it would happen to me, but ...
Ordiac [4k\]: hardly
digikid [10k\]: Don't think so
bigfatcat [3k\]: b c11 has been shown before i think
]
(;W[do]C[simpkin [11k\]: lunch is very important at Milton Keynes; they do a nice lunch
rayen [2k\]: this helps black :(
Kilik [4k\]: me neither
Ordiac [4k\]: its amateur ?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: yup
Javaness [2k\]: where is white going?
MacNala [13k\]: you talk about fast and slow what do you mean?
]
(;B[dl]
(;W[el]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: just play like this
]
;B[dn]C[Jadeite [8k?\]: time for some new blood at the top 
]
;W[en]
;B[em]C[chochopper [6k\]: is his wife pretty?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: N16 is very big here
]
;W[gf]
;B[ge]
;W[dm]
;B[cn]C[bouboubou [3k\]: lol
simpkin [11k\]: chochopper - fairly, yes  
digikid [10k\]: LOL
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: coz more potential
bouboubou [3k\]: lol
Kilik [4k\]: it looks natural
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: so this is my idea
]
(;W[fo]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: take this one
l01 [9k\]: white maybe no need to "get out of here" ?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white come oout
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: alright?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if you want to fight you need strong base
]
(;B[go]TR[fm][gm][en][gn][fo][go]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if black pusing down here
koroshiya [4k\]: byan, i take it you're listening to the review?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white doesnt get out so interesting
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: it is better immediate leave
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: first have strong move
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: then fight
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: otherwise no good result
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if we compare this
digikid [10k\]: doesn't worth...
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black is outsid e and white is inside
Kilik [4k\]: lol
Ordiac [4k\]: lol he wanna kill h11 ?
Javaness [2k\]: paper tiger
bouboubou [3k\]: lol
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: sorry for white
simpkin [11k\]: Ordiac - yep - didn't I say ...?
digikid [10k\]: Really?
digikid [10k\]: Oh....
blueshoe [3k\]: yes it does look like black has a weak group... but maybe too big a risk
Ordiac [4k\]: i think i see k11 die before h11
rayen [2k\]: maybe he will get promoted to 6d if he wins title ^^
]
;W[fp]C[DrOlczyk [9k\]: "First take caare of your stones".
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: jump here
]
(;B[jo]C[simpkin [11k\]: and started about 90 minutes ago
miyuu [1d\]: g3
rayen [2k\]: g4 ? :P
bouboubou [3k\]: h3 
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: K5 let see what white play
chochopper [6k\]: g4
DrOlczyk [9k\]: H3
blbn [1d\]: h3 
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: think about it
bigfatcat [3k\]: i think english is fine for those who dont have audio available
Zalfor [1k\]: H3
bouboubou [3k\]: yes
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: very important
Podjeved [-\]: h3
mamolo [6k\]: h3 ?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: shape
bcss [9k\]: h3
gr00by [7k\]: l9 
EdmundSS [?\]: Typing Guo Juan's comments in *does* make sense, because not everyone has audio
koroshiya [4k\]: G4
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I think black should have go G4
digikid [10k\]: H3
rayen [2k\]: g4
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: but he didnt
bassanio [1k?\]: h3?
chochopper [6k\]: g4
miyuu [1d\]: only me like g3 :|
Zalfor [1k\]: not h3..
digikid [10k\]: H4?
Baudzo [8k\]: g4 
bouboubou [3k\]: j3 lol
simpkin [11k\]: OK, Guo
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: okay
Zalfor [1k\]: oh...
karmaGfa [3k\]: G4 mayve
simpkin [11k\]: did she say that the cut around j10 no longer worked or did I mishear that?
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Would C10 be to slow now?
Zalfor [1k\]: the next move must be offensive...
koroshiya [4k\]: typing in the comments also would help those who later review this offline, but partial commentary might just be more confusing than helpful...
Russianlll [7k\]: i like H3
Ordiac [4k\]: my best guess would be J5 :|
Zalfor [1k\]: the cut at J10 still doesnt work
Zalfor [1k\]: she said it is not h3
bcss [9k\]: g4
wizzydude [-\]: maby white D4?
simpkin [11k\]: thanks, Zalfor
kogangel [11k\]: J6 ?
rayen [2k\]: d4 
tflynch [11k\]: there's a ladder favouring white there at the moment
Wayatt [3k\]: j4
bouboubou [3k\]: g4 no ?
Getsu [-\]: J4?
tflynch [11k\]: at j10
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white will strong in G4 anyway
KIBIN [13k\]: J5
l01 [9k\]: m8
chochopper [6k\]: d4 first?
TotoroShan [5k\]: G2
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: and push up at m6
Robocop [9k\]: m9
rayen [2k\]: I would d4 first
Zansatsu [5d\]: m8 looks playable
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: reach K11
bouboubou [3k\]: G4 seems to be the key point
Javaness [2k\]: I want to play L7 to stop the ladder breaker
Russianlll [7k\]: she also did say it's basic.. why so difficult ?
karmaGfa [3k\]: J4 maybe
Splitter [2d?\]: g4 = thousand-dollar turn!?
mamolo [6k\]: J4
Ordiac [4k\]: hi m5 ?
Luanda [12k\]: ah ok  
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: hello
falseself [9k\]: hi
DrOlczyk [9k\]: C10
digikid [10k\]: Welcome back again
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: so here... the shape
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this feel a little bit too slow - L7
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: instead go G4
]
(;W[km]C[blueshoe [3k\]: j4 threatens to cut and connect
rayen [2k\]: wow
Zansatsu [5d\]: around here, yes
chochopper [6k\]: wow
rayen [2k\]: its quite funny :D
Zalfor [1k\]: 
Javaness [2k\]: i was right
bouboubou [3k\]: bad bad bad
DarkHaze [-\]: all or nothing
Luanda [12k\]: is she speaking at the moment ? 
bouboubou [3k\]: no
Zalfor [1k\]: audio is back now
digikid [10k\]: yes yes
bouboubou [3k\]: g4 no?
Javaness [2k\]: hello
Nishry [2k\]: welcome back
digikid [10k\]: Hello  
Russianlll [7k\]: yes
digikid [10k\]: not h4?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: so this is basic shape
]
;B[lo]C[Ordiac [4k\]: does b have aji at n3 ?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white start fighting without solid shape
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I would still play G4
chochopper [6k\]: is n6 possiblle?
]
(;W[kp]C[digikid [10k\]: Looks bad
Ordiac [4k\]: ugly   
Zalfor [1k\]: bad shape
Luanda [12k\]: how big is the chance white can finish this succesful ...the whole group on the left didn't look good for me
Ordiac [4k\]: Oo
rayen [2k\]: he doesnt want to be cut maybe at bottom :p
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black get connect
]
(;B[ko]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: as what I said 
Dita [2k\]: yes
DrOlczyk [9k\]: -30 for both weak W groups?
Dita [2k\]: I got it right :D
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black much stronger in position
HikaShin [6d\]: white play G4
]
;W[gp]TR[ik][ko]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black has more chances to make territories
Kilik [4k\]: hey  
digikid [10k\]: YAY~~~
rayen [2k\]: *applaud*
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: Im very happy
Russianlll [7k\]: lol... finally
digikid [10k\]: ^_^
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white play G4
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: very nice
Kilik [4k\]: he hears you
digikid [10k\]: Guo Juan is happy XD
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this is very very important
Luanda [12k\]: lol
gr00by [7k\]: how strong are players in the game
gr00by [7k\]: ?
Robinsa [18k\]: 
simpkin [11k\]: yep, you've projected your feelings so strongly ...   
Buckley [5k?\]: black didnt want to kill white 
digikid [10k\]: 5D and 6D
HikaShin [6d\]: where is this play at?
koroshiya [4k\]: british 5d and 6d
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: so after this attacking for black
gr00by [7k\]: thx
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black must attack this white group
playmore [3d\]: why not white N6?
Luanda [12k\]: yeah now white looks much better
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if white leave the center easily
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black will have territories problem
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: J10
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: to make big territories
]
(;B[jm]C[rayen [2k\]: wow :P
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if white has chance to defence in the center
Luanda [12k\]: mayeb ?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: um..
Aivonix [6k\]: mmm./
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: blakc has to place this move to leave
]
(;W[kl]C[tflynch [11k\]: live
digikid [10k\]: to live*
rayen [2k\]: h5 ? .. but seems w needs to protect anyway
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this looks like not the correct direction
Buckley [5k?\]: also there is still ko?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: we need to have black now
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: looks like white has more air now
Ernesto: help*
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: have more chance
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: after white drive out here
rayen [2k\]: w seems to have 1 eye allready
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white is haveing chance to settle donw
tal1991 [11k\]: how much time left for each player??????
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: help little
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: help black
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: UK championship
simpkin [11k\]: tal - unfortunatly we don't have the time limits as such, but they probably both have at least 2 hours yet
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: 2nd game
]
;B[hp]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: mathew play
simpkin [11k\]: we don't know, however, exactly who's used how much
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: 3 hours
bigfatcat [3k\]: is the game automatically updated
simpkin [11k\]: bigfatcat - yes
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: we need some record here
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: how much time spend
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: on the left side
RikkuKun [14k\]: what is the level of the players in this game?
]
(;W[hq]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: let see
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: nothing wrong with white
]
;B[iq]TR[kl][jm]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black escape
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black has little trouble now
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: alright
v0ndutch: but what about atari at G3?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white has much value
]
(;W[hr]LB[kl:B][jm:A]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: everybody read
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I will just play K2
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: J2
bigfatcat [3k\]: white wants to force connection?
rayen [2k\]: maybe b has a chance now
simpkin [11k\]: F22A - the second game in the five-game match for the British Championship
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I dunt like this shape
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black looks painful
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: still white not sepreate that much at all
digikid [10k\]: Stones can express?
]
(;B[mn]TR[ml]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: they didnt play yet.. let see
DarkHaze [-\]: sure they can
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black escape in rea
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: N8 is next move
digikid [10k\]: I don't see if it's painful... or danger if it means
Omnivori [1k?\]: how about cut at g3 in previous variation
bigfatcat [3k\]: b k3 is no problem, right?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: alright nothing wrong
blbn [1d\]: what about wj2 bettre than h2 ?
Omnivori [1k?\]: j4 h5 j2 g3 
miktex [?\]: what's the real game for god sake?
simpkin [11k\]: yes, it could be that this will be the sealed move
EdmundSS [?\]: British Championship, second game
hedkandi05 [13k\]: how long is the break?
simpkin [11k\]: one hour for lunch
Ordiac [4k\]: hehe
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: one hour lunch play
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: break
Ordiac [4k\]: the lunch break tesuji  
rlee [1d\]: no sealed move?
Dita [2k\]: lol
hedkandi05 [13k\]: nod
Ernesto: I wonder what kind of brain foods they will eat
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]:  
simpkin [11k\]: yes, it's a sealed move, rlee
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: hiya all~
GralAnibal [6k?\]: * The sound of Guo Juan's  voice every sunday morning is like music to my ears
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: lunch over gor me~
Kerochan [4k\]: mcdonalds
Hilarius [4k\]: they don't seal moves in UK :E
GralAnibal [6k?\]: thank you  very much GuoJuan
karmaGfa [3k\]: ha ha .. the creators of WeiChi would be ashamed of the lunch break tesuji   
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I think black try to drive white arround passively
georgina: ok
simpkin [11k\]: Hilarius - yes, they do - in the British Championship
blbn [1d\]: j2 was risky ?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white making land on right
maddox [8d?\]: who is guojuan ?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: while making land on right
bigfatcat [3k\]: when will be the next game?
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Oh it's really bad in those two day games. not move for 15 minutes before first lunch. Not move for 15 minutes before you seal a move. Not move for 15 minutes the next day before lunch.
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: we have 3 audio lectures in this game
maddox [8d?\]: lolx
maddox [8d?\]: -.-?
miktex [?\]: next game will take place in Davi Ward's house
zooken [5d\]: she is a very famous chinese go player
koroshiya [4k\]: the commentary is over for today?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: and... Im pofessional 5p
maddox [8d?\]: wow...great...:D
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: live in new york 
m0rZniNg [15k\]: in wich language ?
zooken [5d\]: she lives in netherland i think
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this mathew is one of my best fd
zooken [5d\]: amsterdam
Dita [2k\]: I should visit her  
kogangel [11k\]: in Europe !! not in New York -_-;
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: today is the 2nd game
Ernesto: when is the 3rd?
rayen [2k\]: you comment on third also ? 
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: :O
digikid [10k\]: ^_^
EdmundSS [?\]: *shrug*
tmc [-\]: yes.  It is 12:00 now
koroshiya [4k\]: all the people from UK went to lunch already 
simpkin [11k\]: we think it's the lunchbreak now, Guo, but we were hoping the BGAAdmin would confirm it
bassanio [1k?\]: lunch break pls
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this is 11:pm here
maddox [8d?\]: hmm...may I know who the white and black are ?
karmaGfa [3k\]: will they do the same for the tea time ?  
Hilarius [4k\]: should be 1 hour lunch break now I think yes
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: =.=
GralAnibal [6k?\]: thanks GUoJuan, c you later
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: should have go to bed
zooken [5d\]: is wang yuan you xhusband?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]:  anyone take my job
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: i finished eating a min ago~
Ernesto: I heard typing
zooken [5d\]: if you dont mind i ask
Ordiac [4k\]: can w still attack L14 ?
zengcheng [2d\]: if B place L12
xinwen [-\]: lol
]
(;W[lg]C[simpkin [11k\]: maddox - Blcak is Bei Ge, 5d, who won the first round; White is Matthew Macfadyen, 6d
Nishry [2k\]: no break 
Kerochan [4k\]: O_O a move
simpkin [11k\]: and apparently it's not lunchtime, as Matthew's moved
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: yay!~!
simpkin [11k\]: perhaps lunch is at 1 o'clock?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: no break
karmaGfa [3k\]: that's a diversion
digikid [10k\]: OMG Don't be so shocked -_-
karmaGfa [3k\]: so the opponent don't have time to memorize this part of the goban
maddox [8d?\]: ok ...thx...simpkin ....
deviant [2d?\]: enthustiastic players can go on for days without eating :P
Javaness [2k\]: I asked to see if it is lunch
rayen [2k\]: haha
RVREY [7k\]: like kawabata book ...
digikid [10k\]: I can't...
simpkin [11k\]: thanks, Java
mozai [2k\]: lol
digikid [10k\]: Lol
HeavenGo [2k\]: nice
Ordiac [4k\]: m13 i can like  
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: alright still one hour
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: so now
ByanGwok02 [7k\]:  no lunch break
mozai [2k\]: java for BGA
simpkin [11k\]: no lunchbreak *now*, anyway   
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: UK time 1pm
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: they have lunch break
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: 
gr00by [7k\]: so it left 2 hours 
Robinsa [18k\]: 1 hour
kryft [7k\]: Hmm, how appropriate, I'm also having lunch in an hour. 
HeavenGo [2k\]: how old is guojuan?
Javaness [2k\]: BGAadmin [-\]: hi java - lunch is from 13.00 - 14.00 British Time
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: right?
digikid [10k\]: 5 professional
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black cannot escape
rayen [2k\]: nice move
bassanio [1k?\]: loose
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: necause m13
m0rZniNg [15k\]: ok
digikid [10k\]: 5 dan professional*
m0rZniNg [15k\]: q8
karmaGfa [3k\]: but black in L12 won't stop him ?
bassanio [1k?\]: l2?
bassanio [1k?\]: l12?
cadoudal [3d\]: m11 ?
zengcheng [2d\]: what B answer if L12
]
(;B[le]C[jhonatan [8k\]: !
maddox [8d?\]: hmm...agree...:D
]
(;W[on]C[Ordiac [4k\]: w plays 'light' ?
]
;B[ml]LB[ml:B][on:A]C[rayen [2k\]: props to Macfadyen for making the game interesting 
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: style~
simpkin [11k\]: oh, be fair, rayen, they're *both* doing that
rayen [2k\]: yes 
Ordiac [4k\]: hes on the inside again ?
Javaness [2k\]: M11
chrislo [8k\]: m12 
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: 
KoReNJe [?\]: lol
Baudzo [8k\]: m11 
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: bye~
simpkin [11k\]: thanks, guo
falseself [9k\]: cu
rayen [2k\]: I still like l12 
digikid [10k\]: Lol ~~~
KoReNJe [?\]: :D
falseself [9k\]: tnx
Kerochan [4k\]: q10?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: :o
Wolfie [10k?\]: i hear it....
beginer [6k\]: me too 
Robinsa [18k\]: I don't
Hilarius [4k\]: for me the audio lecture works perfectly
SNam [6k\]: me too
bigfatcat [3k\]: now is an audio pause
koroshiya [4k\]: the sound is off now
rayen [2k\]: me 3
koroshiya [4k\]: M10
Javaness [2k\]: m11
rayen [2k\]: I still like l12 
Djey [15k\]: thanks
]
(;W[mi]C[simpkin [11k\]: so we're supposed to be working out how Matthew should fix his shape
Hilarius [4k\]: well yes now pause in audio 
Ordiac [4k\]: i only dont hear the stones get spaced
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: :[
koroshiya [4k\]: find a move for b to best attack w shape... before w N11
Auge [11k\]: I dont here the stones, 2
simpkin [11k\]: Ague - you can turn that on in "configuration"
jhonatan [8k\]: no
Ordiac [4k\]: but i can hear the pass moves , lol
Auge [11k\]: it is on xD
simpkin [11k\]: for "all games"?
koroshiya [4k\]: that passing sound really hurts my ears... it's so loud in headphones
Auge [11k\]: and auge not ague. auge is german for eye
Ordiac [4k\]: it was the other way around few days back
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: this move looks wierd~
Ordiac [4k\]: nah its shape
Hilarius [4k\]: it's interesting
Hilarius [4k\]: 2 purpose move
Hilarius [4k\]: 
rayen [2k\]: m13 is going to be sacrificed if w l12 
Auge [11k\]: since the last time I watched this game, black lost much o_O
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: wierd is interesting 
Djey [15k\]: also keep pressure on b
Javaness [2k\]: S3 looks ugly now
Ordiac [4k\]: really ?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: why~?
rayen [2k\]: hmm
digikid [10k\]: Any 9p in KGS? If yes, who?
rayen [2k\]: maybe w plans on using r7 
Javaness [2k\]: well with black split like this
rayen [2k\]: jujo is 9p
digikid [10k\]: Others?
Hilarius [4k\]: dunno if it's ugly but atleast it's not efficient
Hilarius [4k\]: KGS doesn't have much pros
Ordiac [4k\]: it makes s5 alive ?
hideyoshi [11k\]: 5p
hideyoshi [11k\]: not 9p
goltar [26k?\]: they are 5 or 6 9p
digikid [10k\]: Oh ok..
lobo [6k\]: how is it inefficient? show me in this particular situation where should s3 be placed to be 'efficient'?
googlebear [4k\]: o11 looks interesting
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: the pros play here once in a time~?
Ordiac [4k\]: but guo is usually the one with best simple advice for my level 
koroshiya [4k\]: vic plays sometimes
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: :O
Hilarius [4k\]: lobo: before P6 was played S3 group was much more efficient for territory on the right side than it is after P6 
Nishry [2k\]: yeah, vic told the captain he's got a mental problem ;p
Hilarius [4k\]: before P6 S3 looked better, now it looks... inefficient to me 
Hilarius [4k\]: S3 group anyways 
rayen [2k\]: it was Cornel :p
Nishry [2k\]: oh :P
rayen [2k\]: Cornels game ^^
Ordiac [4k\]: lol
lobo [6k\]: Hilarius: that doesnt have anything to do with my question
Hilarius [4k\]: voice back on! ^^
simpkin [11k\]: hello!
Kouin [1d\]: m10?
bigfatcat [3k\]: yesyesyes
Xilux [-\]: hello
SevTheSev [16k?\]: hello
KoReNJe [?\]: guo eating next to her computer ? :D
Javaness [2k\]: i wish it was lunchtime
Hilarius [4k\]: lobo: then you ask the wrong question 
DnF [5k?\]: 
rayen [2k\]: right
Ordiac [4k\]: i think w can win if sacrifice j9
lobo [6k\]: what about m10?
Ordiac [4k\]: angle tesuji ?
]
(;B[ok]LB[mk:A]TR[kl][km]C[koroshiya [4k\]: N9 !
rayen [2k\]: n9 
Javaness [2k\]: R6
Ordiac [4k\]: m6
tmc [-\]: p11
nitram1 [3k\]: m9?
Auge [11k\]: O8 before N9, or not?
mamolo [6k\]: r6 
Ordiac [4k\]: lol i guess to you this game too easy 
koroshiya [4k\]: P11
Robinsa [18k\]: m9?
Auge [11k\]: isnt O8 a cutting move?
rayen [2k\]: harder to think straight when you play 
sunra [9k\]: kibbitzers 
Dita [2k\]: spectators
Robinsa [18k\]: white has played A right?
Dita [2k\]: observers
Dita [2k\]: :3
Dita [2k\]: no presure
koroshiya [4k\]: no, P9 is the current move...
Ordiac [4k\]: "de beste stuurlui staan aan de wal" is a dutch proverb about the same i think
simpkin [11k\]: we have a much better perspective
simpkin [11k\]: not least because we have you, Guo Juan 
sunra [9k\]: yeah cause we have guojuan 
Javaness [2k\]: when you watch a game you are always a stone stronger
Dita [2k\]: 
Robinsa [18k\]: White played A?
simpkin [11k\]: no, they're taking their time
]
(;W[qn]LB[rn:A][rr:B]C[sunra [9k\]: he played r6!
rayen [2k\]: :D
sunra [9k\]: 
simpkin [11k\]: has anyone told us if he's wearing an opponent-scaring shirt or waistcoat today?
Javaness [2k\]: yes he first one in 1978, before I was born
Ordiac [4k\]: lol is he the cap ?
Hilarius [4k\]: :o
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Didn't some observer have a heart attack recently at a game?
sunra [9k\]: what about r6 now?
rayen [2k\]: I think its better to be a sleeping tiger then a active shark ^^
tmc [-\]: Is R6 from the game?
Javaness [2k\]: matthew played my move ^^*
Dust [2d\]: there's a stone at r6
Ordiac [4k\]: hehe
Hilarius [4k\]: 
sonicyouth [8k\]: sorry, who played this game
sonicyouth [8k\]: ?
simpkin [11k\]: is this shape cutable at q5?
sunra [9k\]: look bgaadmin game sonic
gr00by [7k\]: r5 
EdmundSS [?\]: Live commentary on 2nd game of British Champiobship
koroshiya [4k\]: q5 not useful at the moment
simpkin [11k\]: Sonic - Black is Bei Ge, 5d, White is Matthew Macfadyen, 6d; and it's live
bassanio [1k?\]: q5?
rayen [2k\]: hmm
chrislo [8k\]: yes r5 
bassanio [1k?\]: black q5?
chrislo [8k\]: i guess
hirurg [9k\]: sonicyouth, this game is being played as we speak
Sparky92 [19k\]: r5
Ordiac [4k\]: yep
Dita [2k\]: no
Javaness [2k\]: no
Dita [2k\]: oh :3
simpkin [11k\]: I don't think it's killable, unless someone my strength is black 
Luanda [12k\]: lol
gr00by [7k\]: B tenuki and white A ?
Ernesto [?\]: I think so
KoReNJe [?\]: killable :P
Ordiac [4k\]: hmm it not soo easy to me either
Luanda [12k\]: someone like me huh ?
Sparky92 [19k\]: yea
Ernesto [?\]: death to black with w A
rayen [2k\]: b dies
tmc [-\]: ko?
Sparky92 [19k\]: yup
koroshiya [4k\]: if white a now, b is alive
Kerochan [4k\]: hi guys,  missed the question, what was it >_<
Baudzo [8k\]: b looks fine
koroshiya [4k\]: i mean... white push s6, b can live in corner
deviant [2d?\]: white s6, b r2, q2, t2 ko?
Javaness [2k\]: the question is , does A kill
GoKlaus [?\]: if white A, is black dead
Ordiac [4k\]: i didnt think r2 live now
Ender [10k\]: 15:30 in france
]
(;B[ql]C[GoKlaus [?\]: thats the question
Javaness [2k\]: black played R8
sunra [9k\]: u
rayen [2k\]: nice
Ernesto [?\]: weee
tmc [-\]: so black thinks he's alive
rayen [2k\]: he is
rayen [2k\]: s2 s6  miai
deviant [2d?\]: actually black can also cut q5..
koroshiya [4k\]: now q5 starts to become more useful too
Buckley [5k?\]: no sound
sunra [9k\]: b can sacrifice s3 and kill n11? schouldnt work, or?
EdmundSS [?\]: Guo Juan taking a break
rayen [2k\]: if b cut q5 white will cut o8 
peet: sound died?
GoKlaus [?\]: she is not talking at the moment
simpkin [11k\]: she's stopped for us to brainstorm, Buckley
rayen [2k\]: so no cut
]
;W[rn]C[KoReNJe [?\]: lol
Ordiac [4k\]: so w s6 then ?
koroshiya [4k\]: r2
rayen [2k\]: r2 
Javaness [2k\]: R2 lives in gote
chrislo [8k\]: ha ha the exercise comes true
Dita [2k\]: I think best b can get is ko
hirurg [9k\]: black can sacrifice his stone and build a huge moyo on the right side?
Javaness [2k\]: strange
]
;B[qr]
;W[pr]C[hirurg [9k\]: his stones*
koroshiya [4k\]: now R1
Javaness [2k\]: r1
deviant [2d?\]: t2 ko
bigfatcat [3k\]: t2
simpkin [11k\]: r1?
cadoudal [3d\]: r1
rayen [2k\]: r1 
rayen [2k\]: are you sure
Ordiac [4k\]: oh
]
(;B[po]C[rayen [2k\]: 
Dita [2k\]: amazing :0
]
;W[pn]C[koroshiya [4k\]: corner much smaller than the outside group...
Zahlman [4k\]: b can live in the corner fairly easily, but needs to do something
]
;B[rr]C[rayen [2k\]: block other side ?
sunra [9k\]: game is a big fight now 
KoReNJe [?\]: corner is small :P
Ordiac [4k\]: homework?
]
(;W[nn]
;B[nr]C[Ordiac [4k\]: yes both players obv like fight to make alive ?
]
(;W[mq]C[Ordiac [4k\]: hmm nice
simpkin [11k\]: I htink they're both bonkers
KakureKage [17k\]: their stil playing?
Zahlman [4k\]: I guess start with that p3 sequence then though
Dita [2k\]: R10?
chrislo [8k\]: what if black p2 ?
]
(;B[oq]C[KoReNJe [?\]: black can isolate W with K2? :D
KakureKage [17k\]: please?? *puppyeyes*
Ernesto [?\]: BGAadmin is gone
KoReNJe [?\]: hmm
Hilarius [4k\]: propably just got disconnected
Ordiac [4k\]: p3 looks like a wasted ko threat
Ernesto [?\]: is m9 still an option for Black?
Hilarius [4k\]: BGAadmin got disconnected
chrislo [8k\]: p3 thats weird
rayen [2k\]: p3 is just reducing before settle
Zahlman [4k\]: p3 is a pretty standard kind of shibori technique
Ordiac [4k\]: wuts shibori?
Ordiac [4k\]: aargh dam didnt see the squeeze 8[
lobo [6k\]: so white should cut now and let the corner live?
Ordiac [4k\]: yes p2 then p1
rayen [2k\]: hmm
Dita [2k\]: no way 
chrislo [8k\]: help black or white ?
Nishry [2k\]: m6 ?
Ordiac [4k\]: r10
geoffrix [20k\]: why black has played
KoReNJe [?\]: M9 :P
Zahlman [4k\]: yes, I think that's it, m6 
Ordiac [4k\]: i like tenuki
geoffrix [20k\]: P3 ?
Robinsa [18k\]: W p2?
KoReNJe [?\]: if I was black, I would attack white center group :P
Dita [2k\]: for black I would M9
kryft [7k\]: geoffrix, White P2, black p1, white O3, black q1
Zahlman [4k\]: m6 seems to cut cleanly
rayen [2k\]: this isnt time to attack center group
KoReNJe [?\]: yes it is
rayen [2k\]: if b attack he might lose sente and lose corner
]
(;W[or]C[KoReNJe [?\]: m9 is a cool move :p
Dita [2k\]: well, corner can be given away if center dies
]
;B[os]
;W[nq]
;B[ps]
;W[oq]C[geoffrix [20k\]: ok thx Kryft
Dita [2k\]: so keep presure on center until cut is gone
Ordiac [4k\]: squeeze
Dust [2d\]: m6,m7
]
;B[rl]C[Hilarius [4k\]: I don't like this
Zahlman [4k\]: oh, right :(
Hilarius [4k\]: I think now white will cut
Ordiac [4k\]: shibori ?
simpkin [11k\]: is black now alive in the corner?
Hilarius [4k\]: no
simpkin [11k\]: dear me
Zahlman [4k\]: t2 kills I think
simpkin [11k\]: he's taking risks, then!
Ender [10k\]: no sound?
guiguistar [4k\]: black wants to J2?
Hilarius [4k\]: t2 kills but if white plays t2, black will attack center
Ordiac [4k\]: id r1
ofap [7k\]: t5?
KuudeeKun [5k\]: i think B is leading and thats why he doesnt play in the corner
wauiwa [?\]: t2 t6
miktex [?\]: White can cut at L6
blueshoe [3k\]: no audio?
koroshiya [4k\]: i don't think L6 works...
lefuet [3k\]: wt2 bT5
Ordiac [4k\]: yes t5 only move
jeandoute [4d\]: q8 o9?
koroshiya [4k\]: L6 O7, H5 doesn't work
miktex [?\]: L6, H5
Robinsa [18k\]: white j2?
blueshoe [3k\]: corner is in trouble
Ordiac [4k\]: duuh w t5 b lives
Nishry [2k\]: m6 ?
blueshoe [3k\]: oh ok
Robinsa [18k\]: t 2
Robinsa [18k\]: I meant
miktex [?\]: white is clearly leading this game
Robinsa [18k\]: haha
bigfatcat [3k\]: they stopped the eating
]
(;W[ho]C[Ordiac [4k\]: hmm
cadoudal [3d\]: b n10 and sacrifice corner ?
yaniro [12k\]: u mean they stopped the game ?
Buckley [5k?\]: j4 would be better cut?
haukka [8k\]: they have moved
]
;B[ip]C[Javaness [2k\]: we missed you
]
;W[kn]C[miktex [?\]: I would have resigned if I am the black
Ordiac [4k\]: lol yes your q8 o8 n9 sequence look real strong 
Ernesto [?\]: lulz
koroshiya [4k\]: now L6 works when b connected
Nishry [2k\]: so it's about m6  after all
wauiwa [?\]: n7
bigfatcat [3k\]: haha
Nishry [2k\]: ?
Hilarius [4k\]: yes lunch now
Sates [14k\]: GMT + 1
mozai [2k\]: BGAadmin [-\]: its lunchtime - and Bei Ge is sealing a move
Robinsa [18k\]: May anyone tell me how black survive after white t2?
Hilarius [4k\]: Bei Ge is sealing move 
Sates [14k\]: since it is BST
Dita [2k\]: yes
Javaness [2k\]: yes they stop for lunch
simpkin [11k\]: Angrolfin - clocks haven't gone back yet so it's British Summer Time
DrOlczyk [9k\]: SO Matthew is probably planning Fish and Chips
KuudeeKun [5k\]: thanks 
Zahlman [4k\]: robinsa, t5
simpkin [11k\]: thank you; you too, guojuan!
Dita [2k\]: thnx
blueshoe [3k\]: thanks
Hilarius [4k\]: thanks 
Sates [14k\]: that's what I meant by BST
Luanda [12k\]: thanks
dipsi [18k\]: hi
koroshiya [4k\]: bye guo
Javaness [2k\]: bye bye
rayen [2k\]: thanks 
cadoudal [3d\]: thank you
quietman [8k\]: ty
gelda [7k\]: thanks see youy
Nishry [2k\]: bye guojuan thanks
Zahlman [4k\]: threatens to connect to outside
aglef [4k?\]: THX
mamolo [6k\]: thanks you very much
simpkin [11k\]: DrO - I doubt it - university canteen cuisine! 
hideyoshi [11k\]: thx
Splitter [2d?\]: thank you very much
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Thank you
Modomannen [4k\]: thx
m0rZniNg [15k\]: thx
bakuhatsu: gah
Zahlman [4k\]: thanks 
Hilarius [4k\]: you too 
bakuhatsu: goodnight lol
janaa [8k\]: thx
Izumii [7k?\]: thx
Ordiac [4k\]: thx cya
Baudzo [8k\]: thanks
lefuet [3k\]: thank you
geoffrix [20k\]: thx
simpkin [11k\]: thank you, guojuan
KoReNJe [?\]: cu
Jadeite [8k?\]: 
Robinsa [18k\]: Zahlman W t4
Angrolfin [13k\]: when guojuan comes back?
Ender [10k\]: 1h
simpkin [11k\]: in one hour, Angrolfin
KoReNJe [?\]: after listening to this comments, I think this 2 players are pretty weak :P
Izumii [7k?\]: in 1h hour she said
Angrolfin [13k\]: ok
simpkin [11k\]: the players will also come back then 
simpkin [11k\]: KoReNJe - to guojuan, of course they are!
KoReNJe [?\]: what's their rank?
simpkin [11k\]: to the rest of us ...
Javaness [2k\]: don't troll korenje
Zahlman [4k\]: t2 t5 t4... t3, no problem... w cannot prevent s4 to make the top eye
Ordiac [4k\]: lol kor thats what i asked , but shes pro , this game too easy  
simpkin [11k\]: 5d and 6d British
KoReNJe [?\]: oh right.. weak
KoReNJe [?\]: :p
KoReNJe [?\]: I used to be 5d :p some time ago
Jadeite [8k?\]: *yawn*
Ordiac [4k\]: well yer beat me on 9 board i think i remember 8|
Robinsa [18k\]: ah zhalman saw now
Robinsa [18k\]: ^^
KoReNJe [?\]: lol
Ordiac [4k\]: but it was some tesuji i didnt know then
KoReNJe [?\]: I kinda dropped to 1k probably now.... however I could still beat 3d kgs if I hadn't screwed up at the end all the time :p
Ordiac [4k\]: lol 1k ?
simpkin [11k\]: weakness is relative: I'm strong when it comes to teaching beginners 
KoReNJe [?\]: I dedicated my life to school... so no time for GOing :P
Ordiac [4k\]: lol like 3 handi on 19 board would be fair 8|
Ordiac [4k\]: kor 1k lol
Kamisama [10k\]: Ordiac please.. who cares
KoReNJe [?\]: me :P
Ordiac [4k\]: hehe
memai [5k\]: finished? :(
Izumii [7k?\]: na
Izumii [7k?\]: it goes on in ~56 min
memai [5k\]: ok
memai [5k\]: how come?
sorlax [10k\]: omg :0
Ordiac [4k\]: sure have some time for nice convo 
sorlax [10k\]: 164 views
Ordiac [4k\]: lunch break tesuji
memai [5k\]: hehe
KoReNJe [?\]: i think I'll go running outside :D it's souch a beautiful day
Bernd [3k\]: sorry for bothering: is commented a live game which goes on after the break ?
KoReNJe [?\]: yes
Ordiac [4k\]: yeah dun look like 24 september at all , i guess its the greenhouse effect
KoReNJe [?\]: it's still summer
KoReNJe [?\]: isn't it? :p
Ordiac [4k\]: sure
Ordiac [4k\]: but used to rain here a lot in september
KoReNJe [?\]: here too
KoReNJe [?\]: but today it's shiny so I must take the advantage of it :P
Ordiac [4k\]: lol yep 
Javaness [2k\]: commentary will resume in about an hour after lunch finishes
Kamisama [10k\]: k
KoReNJe [?\]: yesterday I lost 2kg on running 10km :D
Ordiac [4k\]: so friendly chitchat is allowed ?
KoReNJe [?\]: dunno
KoReNJe [?\]: I guess
koroshiya [4k\]: the more i read the variations from L6, the more reckless it looks...
KoReNJe [?\]: hmm we are just extending the size of log files :D
Ordiac [4k\]: well im axing java
Ordiac [4k\]: *asking
sorlax [10k\]: hi
sorlax [10k\]: whats the point of l6 ?
koroshiya [4k\]: cuts b
sorlax [10k\]: i dont get is
Ordiac [4k\]: it threaten some non working cut ?
koroshiya [4k\]: k6 n7 m7 
sorlax [10k\]: why didnt w invade r14 ?
amni [2k\]: there are much bigger issues than r14 right now 
koroshiya [4k\]: b would just split the center and r14 stones then
sorlax [10k\]: n11 stones cant live?
sorlax [10k\]: looks like a good shape
sorlax [10k\]: man im confused
Ordiac [4k\]: n11 should be safe
koroshiya [4k\]: it's not definitely alive yet... so it can be attacked
Ordiac [4k\]: but still attackable 
sorlax [10k\]: s3 stones looks very strange
sorlax [10k\]: how did it happen?
Ordiac [4k\]: b invaded his own corner
Ordiac [4k\]: so it lives but small
koroshiya [4k\]: b mistake in joseki early on, now it lives or dies depending on who moves there next
sorlax [10k\]: s3 cannot be killed?
Ordiac [4k\]: well not in my reading
sorlax [10k\]: t4 t5 t2 looks like ko to me
SooChaek [7k\]: is this review still going?
sorlax [10k\]: yeah
sorlax [10k\]: lunch break
Ordiac [4k\]: sure just a 45 min lunch break
SooChaek [7k\]: ahh^^
lefuet [3k\]: t4 t5 t2 t3
SooChaek [7k\]: thanks for the info
koroshiya [4k\]: err... after T5 b can just T6 and connect out
Ordiac [4k\]: lol yep ?
sorlax [10k\]: t6 is connected
sorlax [10k\]: isnt*
koroshiya [4k\]: i guess b lives alrady then
Ordiac [4k\]: well it looks dead but i cant read any kill variation 8(
sorlax [10k\]: r5 t5 r1 s1 t2 ?
Ordiac [4k\]: then t3 makes 2 eyes ?
tflynch [11k\]: answer r5 with t4
tflynch [11k\]: hmm, or not
tflynch [11k\]: sorry
sorlax [10k\]: its very hard to read but its alive
sorlax [10k\]: no doubt
Ordiac [4k\]: well experience count a lot too
tflynch [11k\]: sorlax - only problem with your sequence is that b still connects out after t2
Ordiac [4k\]: just knowing if it lives or die helps the brain a lot
sorlax [10k\]: its alive
sorlax [10k\]: i got it ><
tflynch [11k\]: yes 
sorlax [10k\]: dont patrenise
Ordiac [4k\]: lol nice typo
amni [2k\]: spello
tflynch [11k\]: patronise?
tflynch [11k\]: I wasn't
sorlax [10k\]: gr
sorlax [10k\]: im not from the us
sorlax [10k\]: my spelling has mistakes
Ordiac [4k\]: kewl
friend [2k\]: whats the consensus on this position, favourable to who?
tflynch [11k\]: playing with cuts and stuff, you can see that w has a lot of threats around the black centre group
Klaus [7k\]: I think w is favored
tflynch [11k\]: black looks set to make a lot more than white on the right side ...
simpkin [11k\]: miktex, who has beaten black three times in tournament games, holds that he would resign if he were black
koroshiya [4k\]: i don't think this cut works, so the game's still on. w still has the Q8 sequence so it should be an advantegous fight...
CLB [9k\]: b needs to do smth around j6 ?
CLB [9k\]: but after that, problem around n7 or 09.
RoniinoR [18k\]: k6 
koroshiya [4k\]: clb, b's next move will be k6, without fail i think...
koroshiya [4k\]: K6 instead of J6
]
(;B[in]C[rayen [2k\]: oO
KoReNJe [?\]: a
koroshiya [4k\]: ouch, this looks baad...
koroshiya [4k\]: now L8 has enough liberties to cut without problems?
rayen [2k\]: b wants to attack w more
simpkin [11k\]: I can't decide if it would be terrible or amusing if Black's sealed move was resignation ...
simpkin [11k\]: it would obvioulsy be quite dull, from our point of view
xiaodan [7k?\]: what time will the match resume?
koroshiya [4k\]: now
simpkin [11k\]: any moment, xiaodan
Javaness [2k\]: it just resumed
simpkin [11k\]: BGAadmin [-\]: black (bei ge has used 1 hour 50 minutes BGAadmin [-\]: matthew macfadyen has used i hour 18 minutes
xiaodan [7k?\]: oh wow
xiaodan [7k?\]: cool!
Russianlll [7k\]: can't hear anything
xiaodan [7k?\]: guojuan will continue?
Javaness [2k\]: BGAadmin [-\]: black (bei ge has used 1 hour 50 minutes BGAadmin [-\]: matthew macfadyen has used i hour 18 minutes BGAadmin [-\]: matthew is wearing a dragon print shirt 
simpkin [11k\]: yes, guojuan should also be back shortly
Javaness [2k\]: not sure what the last point means
DnFBlitz [2k\]: with a dragon print shirt it should be easy to win
simpkin [11k\]: and clearly matthew is trying to intimidate his opponent with his clothes again
simpkin [11k\]: he does this quite a lot
simpkin [11k\]: why none of his opponents have started doing the same thing back at him I'm not sure
simpkin [11k\]: I would, if I were off that calibre
DnFBlitz [2k\]: because no one cares?
koroshiya [4k\]: hehe i guess go player could wear a "i kill for living" t-shirt
]
;W[mm]C[rayen [2k\]: oO
KoReNJe [?\]: someone call guo :D
koroshiya [4k\]: now b is almost cooked
wauiwa [?\]: b dead
KoReNJe [?\]: B can play M7, then M9 :p
DnFBlitz [2k\]: don't worry guo juan will come back, i'm sure!
koroshiya [4k\]: hands halfway up
KoReNJe [?\]: oops
KoReNJe [?\]: M7, then M8
KoReNJe [?\]: so if w plays M6, he loses eyes
rayen [2k\]: w will m6  if b m7 
koroshiya [4k\]: that worked much bette rwith J6 at K6...
KoReNJe [?\]: and if B has a stone at M8, b can play K8 :p
wauiwa [?\]: ko at e7?
digikid [10k\]: Where were you from?
]
;B[fj]C[KoReNJe [?\]: oooo
rayen [2k\]: hmm
rayen [2k\]: w isnt fully settled on side actually
rayen [2k\]: or wait
koroshiya [4k\]: but now if F8 to help the ko connection...
rayen [2k\]: w can f8 
rayen [2k\]: and fix ko and life at same time
rayen [2k\]: while taking out b eye
digikid [10k\]: Where's dnaigo?
digikid [10k\]: I mean..guojuan..
rayen [2k\]: hey wait a minute
rayen [2k\]: b got g11 
rayen [2k\]: b alive ;D
wauiwa [?\]: w g11
rayen [2k\]: g11 e7 
koroshiya [4k\]: right... then back to trying to live on the right edge
wauiwa [?\]: yes
rayen [2k\]: w could try for a semeai
Javaness [2k\]: ko?
rayen [2k\]: probably
rayen [2k\]: g11 only move to kill
Javaness [2k\]: I don't see another way
rayen [2k\]: this is troublesome to read out
KoReNJe [?\]: javaness, since where are you admin here? :P
KoReNJe [?\]: since when
koroshiya [4k\]: w can let b live in gote while fix ko at the same time, then take sente to attack on the right edge
rayen [2k\]: o3  isnt settled either
rayen [2k\]: so I dont think ko is good for w
digikid [10k\]: Seems like white is leading  eh?
KoReNJe [?\]: W F8 :p
koroshiya [4k\]: yes and w still has N15 waiting...
rayen [2k\]: I dont think w can kill b
KoReNJe [?\]: he can't
rayen [2k\]: to many things going on
rayen [2k\]: also b got alot og breaking out sente
rayen [2k\]: of*
rayen [2k\]: and if w lose ko he could risk losing lower part
yithril [2k\]: whats going on?
KoReNJe [?\]: W N15 looks nice :p
leslielau [10k\]: where is GJ?
rayen [2k\]: dont think w has time to tenuki
hedkandi05 [13k\]: how is b alive? he has one eye at h5 
rayen [2k\]: b can live with g11  or make ko e7 
yithril [2k\]: gonna be a ko i guess
rayen [2k\]: I dont think w can afford ko
rayen [2k\]: if b get j2  followup it is going to be very hard
KoReNJe [?\]: B F8 too strong :p
koroshiya [4k\]: ko doesn't seem like a very interesting idea for w... b has enough local threats
guojuan [5p\]: hi
rayen [2k\]: yeah
KoReNJe [?\]: what was that 112 :p
rayen [2k\]: hi 
simpkin [11k\]: hi, guojuan
KoReNJe [?\]: hello guo :p
Djey [15k\]: hi
guojuan [5p\]: audio is not working
guojuan [5p\]: it seems
rayen [2k\]: hmm
twinBlade [17k\]: how did the game end?
rayen [2k\]: its live
koroshiya [4k\]: game is live atm
xiaodan [7k?\]: welcome back!
]
(;W[fl]C[hedkandi05 [13k\]: ah gote life
rayen [2k\]: Macfadyen is probably thinking very hard right now
simpkin [11k\]: ooh, he eats the eye
hedkandi05 [13k\]: hang on
KoReNJe [?\]: yep F8 was my move :p
rayen [2k\]: g11 
rayen [2k\]: b alive 
hedkandi05 [13k\]: no he's not alive- it doesn't work because w moves first
guojuan [5p\]: hi
rayen [2k\]: he is alive
Javaness [2k\]: maybe you can make a new board
]
(;B[ir]C[simpkin [11k\]: g11 gets g9 and isn't an eye, surely?
rayen [2k\]: wow
Ordiac [4k\]: hmm get error messages 3 the owner left
koroshiya [4k\]: kill kill kill !
rayen [2k\]: maybe b wants to kill w :D
Javaness [2k\]: guojuan
Javaness [2k\]: hi
Ordiac [4k\]: hi
rayen [2k\]: ah it works :D
Ender [10k\]: hi
simpkin [11k\]: aha!
KoReNJe [?\]: right
yithril [2k\]: yes
Pinguschaf [5d\]: hello^^
koroshiya [4k\]: yep
BigElefant [13k\]: yes
simpkin [11k\]: we hear you!
digikid [10k\]: Hellow!!!
hideyoshi [11k\]: yes
rayen [2k\]: yes
Pinguschaf [5d\]: yep
Javaness [2k\]: oh good
hirurg [9k\]: right!
Titonio [?\]: yes
koroshiya [4k\]: hello world
Robinsa [18k\]: 
RikkuKun [15k\]: yeah*
KoReNJe [?\]: lol
digikid [10k\]: ^_^
Djey [15k\]: can somebody write what she say please?
Javaness [2k\]: if black wants to live he can play like this
koroshiya [4k\]: dangerous for w to kill like this
Javaness [2k\]: but before he wants to cut white with J2
]
(;W[gk]C[rayen [2k\]: what if b atari the other side ?
digikid [10k\]: I can write but I'm playing.... Maybe..*
RikkuKun [15k\]: goujuan who's leading for now ?
rayen [2k\]: o7 
MatchFree [-\]: l2 makes a eye for black?
KoReNJe [?\]: b can probably live with L2? :P
]
(;B[fr]C[RikkuKun [15k\]: guojauan*
yithril [2k\]: what if b e4 to threaten g3?
Ender [10k\]: i said it but......nm
]
(;W[er]C[Javaness [2k\]: ouch
]
(;B[kr]C[RikkuKun [15k\]: can you tell me agein what is the level of te players ?
Robinsa [18k\]: 7d and 5d I think
digikid [10k\]: 5D and 6D
Robinsa [18k\]: ah ok sorry
Buckley [5k?\]: GJ, corner is alive ?
Javaness [2k\]: Bei Ge is 5d
RikkuKun [15k\]: ok thank you 
Javaness [2k\]: maybe he will be promoted
]
(;W[lr]
(;B[hs]LB[di:1][kl:3][on:2]C[Djey [15k\]: I have not headphones
koroshiya [4k\]: H1 is game move
Buckley [5k?\]: so white can resing or ?
Ender [10k\]: life is hard isn't it?
rayen [2k\]: b is alive
DnFBlitz [2k\]: this is the actual game
Russianlll [7k\]: w f3?
KakureKage [17k\]: guojuan say something funny for me please! =D
sonicyouth [8k\]: anyways, where's white's territory?
Aivonix [6k\]: ++++++
]
(;W[gq]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: upper side
Ender [10k\]: he played
KoReNJe [?\]: w has some territory at a19 corner :P
]
;B[eq]C[yaniro [12k\]: here too
Javaness [2k\]: black takes a lot of cash with this
physics [3k\]: can game be saved with audio comment`
physics [3k\]: ?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: no
christopff [2k\]: yes
physics [3k\]: how?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: you could make a video capture
christopff [2k\]: but you have to use viedeo tools
physics [3k\]: lol ^^
christopff [2k\]: 
RikkuKun [15k\]: is this game is a part of tournment?
]
(;W[dp]C[christopff [2k\]: i wonder if there is a copyright on this live comment?
KoReNJe [?\]: lol
simpkin [10k\]: so the important thing, you're saying, guojuan, is to keep your perspective on your aims?
]
(;B[cp]C[fosil [-\]: g1 & f3 better?
v0ndutch: e10?
]
;W[pi]C[sonicyouth [8k\]: n7 first?
koroshiya [4k\]: just R13
rayen [2k\]: g1 
blueshoe [3k\]: attack o4 group
idiot2 [2d\]: probably black should just kill white on the left ?
Doneagle [14k\]: R13
rayen [2k\]: w not alive yet on side
simpkin [10k\]: ell, if Black's ahead he should play sensible calm moves?
KoReNJe [?\]: b E10 :p
Javaness [2k\]: Black must make sure the left dies
koroshiya [4k\]: perhaps C10 on left side
simpkin [10k\]: is it necessary, Java?
]
(;B[ej]
;W[dj]
;B[bi]
(;W[bj]
;B[cj]
;W[ci]
;B[bh]
;W[bg]C[Jakuki [12k\]: she's chinese?
Buckley [5k?\]: e13 
Javaness [2k\]: what if Black plays G1?
simpkin [10k\]: Jakuki - http://senseis.xmp.net/?GuoJuan
Lephan [6k\]: read details before asking same q for 100 times
christopff [2k\]: i think is must be very confusing to her to read all aour of -game comments 
Jakuki [12k\]: seen one of her games at youtube
KoReNJe [?\]: perhaps E10 not so good? :p
Javaness [2k\]: i don't see how to make 2 eyes
]
(;B[be]C[EdhelDil [6k\]: white seems not alive
rayen [2k\]: hmm
KoReNJe [?\]: G1 is 1 eye, E11 is 2. eye :p
Robinsa [18k\]: alright
EdhelDil [6k\]: white f1 enough to live? when blavk d1it seems white can't play e1to make the eye
]
(;W[gs]
;B[is]
;W[fq]C[EdhelDil [6k\]: e13 is the key for life?
]
(;B[nm]
(;W[lm]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: black just played it
simpkin [10k\]: he doesn't agree with you that l1 is the only move 
evening [1d\]: 
]
(;B[ks]C[rayen [2k\]: he did play l1 
]
;W[dr]C[simpkin [10k\]: OK, but not when guojuan said it was the only move 
rayen [2k\]: I think w should m1 first
EdhelDil [6k\]: white can m1 to threaten to make 2 eyes with o1
EdhelDil [6k\]: ,
EdhelDil [6k\]: ?
Xilux [-\]: so b misread something there
]
(;B[cr]
(;W[ep]
;B[cq]
;W[fn]
(;B[gj]C[Robinsa [18k\]: Instead of d1
Zahlman [4k\]: g2 you mean
Robinsa [18k\]: E 1 I meant
Robinsa [18k\]: ^^
Zahlman [4k\]: oh
Xilux [-\]: w winning
Hikaru79 [-\]: Ah.
KoReNJe [?\]: no :p
simpkin [10k\]: I don't think he does
quietman [8k\]: alive
Lephan [6k\]: not yet
aglef [4k?\]: alive
tmc [-\]: alive
Kamisama [10k\]: i think it is 
simpkin [10k\]: but if I were white, I would, because I wouldn't trust my reading
Zahlman [4k\]: e1 basically the same as d1
Nezumi [2k\]: no life
Buckley [5k?\]: e13 
]
(;W[qj]C[rayen [2k\]: nice
Javaness [2k\]: R10 kosumi
rayen [2k\]: I feel sorry for b :(
Modomannen [4k\]: ye
KoReNJe [?\]: so b is dead there?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: R10 was played
Russianlll [7k\]: yes
tmc [-\]: yes
KoReNJe [?\]: nice turnaround
Javaness [2k\]: yes
quietman [8k\]: yes
christopff [2k\]: yes
quietman [8k\]: can b live here now?
simpkin [10k\]: not quite the same as us, you know
adsfrgds: u dont think so
EdhelDil [6k\]: can black afford to lose r8 group while attack from r13 area to make more territory ?
]
;B[oi]C[zengcheng [2d\]: yeah
Javaness [2k\]: I think Black doesn't want to die
blueshoe [3k\]: later r17 is big for white
simpkin [10k\]: well, that's fair, Java, I wouldn't either
Kamisama [10k\]: no kidding
adsfrgds: you can read like a million moves foward
rayen [2k\]: b will not win semeai 
adsfrgds: we dont see it
blueshoe [3k\]: yes flip flop!
]
(;W[oh]
;B[ni]C[jhonatan [8k\]: x
]
;W[nh]
(;B[mj]C[adsfrgds: looks strange
Kagora [17k\]: no.
adsfrgds: hmm
]
(;W[li]
(;B[ph]C[simpkin [10k\]: he's trying ...
adsfrgds: w just r12 ?
Kagora [17k\]: why?
simpkin [10k\]: no, b
jeandoute [4d\]: o16 will be big
chrislo [8k\]: nobody talk about p3 group, is it alive without conditions ?
Zahlman [4k\]: if the game lasts that long 
Buckley [5k?\]: q9 
simpkin [10k\]: certainly these players think so, Java
kirisute [-\]: q9 q8 r12 ?
adsfrgds: who is playing here?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: yes, black did cut in the game
KoReNJe [?\]: oops
soulangel [2k\]: cut not good
EdhelDil [6k\]: m1 seems sente threatens o1
Zahlman [4k\]: m1 n1, no big deal
KoReNJe [?\]: so after W Q9, B might be able to make strong influence at the top with R11 
chrislo [8k\]: hard choice for white
danny18 [-\]: q10 
danny18 [-\]: r12  oops
adsfrgds: so what is the tesuji?
danny18 [-\]: black need q10
adsfrgds: she left?
KoReNJe [?\]: B L17 looks big to me, however no threat :p
soulangel [2k\]: b do a ko?
rayen [2k\]: I think I see a way 
Zahlman [4k\]: seems like r12 has the problem of allowing b q10
dhalsim [11k\]: was that audio live?
white [-\]: in the sequence: "q9 q8 p8 p10 o9" i cannot see how o9 works, can someone show me? i cloned the game
Zahlman [4k\]: so just q9 directly seems the only way
EdhelDil [6k\]: can black play only moves "above" r12, threatening to link his r8 group and making territory? letting his r8 group die
adsfrgds: so the cut is good or bad?
Snakou [18k\]: bad for mr
Snakou [18k\]: me
Zahlman [4k\]: shortage of liberties, white; b could not q10 then
]
(;W[pg]C[rayen [2k\]: can I show a variation ?
soulangel [2k\]: can they do ko?
]
;B[qh]
;W[qg]C[KoReNJe [?\]: omg
SNam [6k\]: white played wrong
Zahlman [4k\]: is this the game?
Zahlman [4k\]: x.x
KoReNJe [?\]: yep w played wrong
hohoho1: s_11?
adsfrgds: q10 r11 r9 b lives
Zahlman [4k\]: it looks tempting enough
KoReNJe [?\]: or maybe not
Javaness [2k\]: easy to attack Q16 now
DnFBlitz [2k\]: hij
EdhelDil [6k\]: hello again
tmc [-\]: hi
Russianlll [7k\]: yes
white [-\]: Zahlmann, but black could O8?
blueshoe [3k\]: oops white did wrong!
]
(;B[rh]C[Zahlman [4k\]: I think she showed some lines :/
adsfrgds: how did she call that move?
danny18 [-\]: ko?
]
(;W[rg]C[christopff [2k\]: always turning
EdhelDil [6k\]: nicat: upright smiley - smiling eyes
simpkin [10k\]: yes, matthew's just played
]
(;B[sk]C[adsfrgds: the ko makes dead shape
digikid [10k\]: Here?
danny18 [-\]: yess..
digikid [10k\]: LOL
Zahlman [4k\]: strange to play something like that suddely
digikid [10k\]: I think so...
]
(;W[of]C[kirogo [11k\]: w has defended at p14 ?
adsfrgds: b has a lot of threats
digikid [10k\]: I think Black will win too
Modomannen [4k\]: then w k2 and b dead
KoReNJe [?\]: w can live with O8 there
]
(;B[nd]C[koroshiya [4k\]: british ama championship finals game 2
]
(;W[ri]
;B[si]
;W[qi]C[Zahlman [4k\]: not to mention the value that o16 move has in terms of the corner
EdhelDil [6k\]: this kills A ?
]
;B[sh]C[adsfrgds: omg
]
;W[sm]LB[rk:A]C[adsfrgds: so strange
kirisute [-\]: s9 
adsfrgds: who is playing it doesnt look like a pro game?
TotoroShan [4k\]: W S9 does nothing ?
simpkin [10k\]: it's not a pro game, ads
]
(;B[om]
;W[qs]
;B[rs]
(;W[sr]C[Zahlman [4k\]: attach to cut lightly? o_O
digikid [10k\]: Nice nice...
digikid [10k\]: This is wrong huh..
digikid [10k\]: Black has this one..
digikid [10k\]: That's nice.. Very nice move..
Javaness [2k\]: big
adsfrgds: o1 good threat
adsfrgds: for b
DnFBlitz [2k\]: white wins the game now?
hohoho1: ok
Kamisama [10k\]: t4 not possible for blaxk?
Zahlman [4k\]: t4 r5
Kamisama [10k\]: oh nevermind
adsfrgds: why isnt she saying anything?
EdhelDil [6k\]: digikid: you should add "guojuan: " in front of her sentences - for people who will read this later without the sound
quietman [8k\]: s9?
]
(;B[lj]C[digikid [10k\]: I don't think I'll be able to catch up if I add guojuan?
Zahlman [4k\]: wait, guojuan is writing stuff too?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: thats clear from the context edehlhil
digikid [10k\]: What is chunge?
Gwalchavad [3k?\]: use cut and paste
digikid [10k\]: Or what did she just say?
digikid [10k\]: O.o;;
EdhelDil [6k\]: digikid: ctrl+c, then ctrl+v each time
koroshiya [4k\]: guojuan said she will compile this all into a free audio lecture with more in depth analysis in it
GAO [2k\]: end
digikid [10k\]: My English isn't so good
quietman [8k\]: address?
guojuan [5p\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com
adsfrgds: s9 does something?
quietman [8k\]: thank you
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: I'll make a free audio lecture next week, so keep an eye
digikid [10k\]: ???
adsfrgds: thank you
lobo [6k\]: thanks
EdhelDil [6k\]: thanks a lot Guojuan  looking forward to it
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: It'll be for free no charge, next week
Snakou [18k\]: excllent
koroshiya [4k\]: even us poor students can afford something that's free :P
Snakou [18k\]: thk you
Snakou [18k\]: ^^
EdhelDil [6k\]: people, that same site gives 1euro lessons too! incredible price for very good lessons
burtabel [4d\]: oh Black misread s9
godork [12k\]: on kgs or audiolessons.com?
digikid [10k\]: Can't get it -_-"
digikid [10k\]: I remembered a person who typed it all the way out
]
;W[kj]
;B[kh]C[friend [2k\]: i count white + 4, b 66 w 62
]
;W[ki]
;B[lp]C[Zahlman [4k\]: hum to me it's looking pretty even
]
;W[lq]C[friend [2k\]: w 66 b 62
]
;B[kc]
;W[jb]
;B[re]
;W[rk]C[digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: This is the game
Javaness [2k\]: I think Black has lost
adsfrgds: how accuratly can you count guojuan?
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: That's disaster black didn't see this move
idiot2 [2d\]: dame is the wrong vocabulary i think 
]
;B[qk]C[simpkin [10k\]: friend - what about komi? that before komi
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: That's another hole
DnFBlitz [2k\]: yes
]
;W[sg]C[digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: Black didn't see this S9
]
;B[pj]
;W[sj]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: yes
friend [2k\]: ?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: yes this is the game
Snakou [18k\]: I see black wining
Zahlman [4k\]: o_O
hohoho1: ^^
koroshiya [4k\]: omg
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: Is this the game? Black is dead
Javaness [2k\]: yes
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: Whoops
bigfatcat [3k\]: #
EdhelDil [6k\]: lol
friend [2k\]: hand of god
Lcjs [8k\]: hehe
miyuu [1d\]: what?
Engalgo [9k\]: poor black
Javaness [2k\]: i think he wanted to resign?
hgmichna [5k\]: B made a mistake.
DnFBlitz [2k\]: black also thought: oops!
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: this is a disaster
EdhelDil [6k\]: game is thrown overboard 
Idn [2k\]: : 
]
(;B[sl]C[mamolo [6k\]: crazy boys...
rayen [2k\]: poor black 
Buckley [5k?\]: yes
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: Is the game finished?
Zahlman [4k\]: I have seen this n9 play in some life and death problem once
Lcjs [8k\]: so black has to allow T8?
chrislo [8k\]: but black can o9 right now
Lcjs [8k\]: ouch
simpkin [10k\]: well, he's still fighting
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: black played here, black is trying to damage?
Javaness [2k\]: unless BGAAdmin made a mistake
digikid [10k\]: Can't get it --"
adsfrgds: brain damaged
tmc [-\]: dame = capturing race?
friend [2k\]: dame
digikid [10k\]: dame?
kirisute [-\]: tmc, yes, I think she means semeai
digikid [10k\]: oh
digikid [10k\]: I see...
digikid [10k\]:  Thanks
Andreaa [11k\]: it means fill common liberties no ??
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: Black lost, I believe
soulangel [2k\]: b die
Zahlman [4k\]: was k18 really bigger than s15?
godork [12k\]: nope it looks like B is doomed
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: I think so too, black can't dame now
]
;W[ls]C[idiot2 [2d\]: she means semeai = capturing race
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: This is the disaster huh.. This is a game
Javaness [2k\]: strange, he wasn't in overtime yet
]
(;B[jq]
;W[ns]C[simpkin [10k\]: that's what he does
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: Yeah, so let's see what happened in the game
Andreaa [11k\]: right
quietman [8k\]: resign
DnFBlitz [2k\]: GouJuan: since black has to live at P9 he loses sente
simpkin [10k\]: black has presumably stopped to kick himself
]
(;B[lk]
(;W[im]
;B[hm]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: yes this is game
KoReNJe [?\]: he saw it
Robinsa [18k\]: and then black has to block
]
(;W[jn]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: is this move sente?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: white probably thinks he wins the game
EdhelDil [6k\]: f1 does work ?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: this is 7 points
]
;B[ij]C[friend [2k\]: gote?
Robinsa [18k\]: why thats strange?
]
;W[kk]C[Robinsa [18k\]: Wont that remove an eye?
]
;B[kb]C[Andreaa [11k\]: b didnt answered
friend [2k\]: close w just
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: how about territory now?
]
(;W[oc]
;B[od]C[KoReNJe [?\]: too late for p17 now I think
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: now P17 is a little different...
]
(;W[rc]C[hedkandi05 [13k\]: he found it
Andreaa [11k\]: h e found !
hgmichna [5k\]: He did.
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: he found it!
burtabel [4d\]: no surprise 
Mukoji [4k\]: i have a question for Guo, can you read this fast?? Or is it mostly shape association from experience?
EdhelDil [6k\]: he's using kgs 
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: if white lives here, black has no chance anymore
Javaness [2k\]: Black R18 doesn't work?
christopff [2k\]: yeah she can read this
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: maybe some chance 
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: B15 is the losing move
burtabel [4d\]: s12 was another losing move?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: he lost sente, and then white could attack the right side
]
;B[rd]C[caironger [7d?\]: black T5 first,and N2 second...
]
(;W[qc]C[KoReNJe [?\]: what about Q18? :p
kirisute [-\]: white played the nobi..
Javaness [2k\]: i don't think so
EdhelDil [6k\]: p18 or q18?...
KoReNJe [?\]: Q
]
(;B[pc]
;W[pb]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: white blocks here and is alive
zengcheng [2d\]: hi,jennie
Tianren246: cut
MacNala [13k\]: time?
xiaodan [7k?\]: if white win black can resign
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: hello jennie 
Jennie [2p\]: hi
xiaodan [7k?\]: live*
KoReNJe [?\]: 2 pros :D
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: jennie also teaches on the audio site 
Xilux [-\]: nihao
DnFBlitz [2k\]: is this audiogolessons.com?
]
;B[ob]C[MacNala [13k\]: time?
Atitos [7k?\]: s9?
Idn [2k\]: yes jennie lesson's are very interesting and easy to understand, ^^
EdhelDil [6k\]: dnf: yes
]
(;W[qa]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: like this, white has even only 2 liberties
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: let's say white lives here.  how about the territory situation?
Doneagle [14k\]: BGAadmin [-\]: bei ge gas 12 minutes left before overtime
Javaness [2k\]: komi is 6.5 as usual
rayen [2k\]: w has a clear lead
tmc [-\]: what if white dies here?
Pinguschaf [5d\]: yep
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: black doesn't have enough, right?
simpkin [10k\]: how punitive is overtime?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: the game is difficult now for black
Buckley [5k?\]: i guess if upper left corner is died w still wins
Javaness [2k\]: yes it's canadian
lobo [6k\]: black has about 30 points?
Javaness [2k\]: maybe 5 stones in 15 minutes
]
(;B[oa]LB[ei:1][gi:2][jj:3][nj:6][ll:8][nl:7][pm:5][jr:4]C[Zahlman [4k\]: as a canadian I have to wonder how we got that overtime system named for us - the CGA is tiny after all :|
jeandoute [4d\]: t18
TonyTiger [1k\]: this is the game?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: 5 stones in 15 minutes sounds too slow
Javaness [2k\]: The time limits for the Title Match will be 180 minutes each, with overtime of 10 plays in 10 minutes.
Javaness [2k\]: It is pretty slow
simpkin [10k\]: 10 stones in 10 minutes is pretty slow
adsfrgds: p19 :0
Zahlman [4k\]: I wish I could make myself play that slow
Andreaa [11k\]: BGAadmin [-\]: matthew has used 2 hours 24 minutes
EdhelDil [6k\]: what's black's biggest yose move now? or is it not yose yet?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: if it is a ko, black cannot win the ko
Robinsa [18k\]: K4 is very big
Robinsa [18k\]: ko threat
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan is now counting ko threats
DnFBlitz [2k\]: for white
Robinsa [18k\]: k4?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: white has too many ko threats!
lefuet [3k\]: did w play K6 for ko-threats?
Subzero [5k\]: jand blAack?
Andreaa [11k\]: but b has a lot with semai no ?
Robinsa [18k\]: k4 kills whole group if not answerd?
]
(;W[rb]LB[hc:1]C[Zahlman [4k\]: which, andreaa?
burtabel [4d\]: no ko threats for black against d11?
rayen [2k\]: there is no semeai Andrea
Robinsa [18k\]: k4 - tenuki - j5
Zahlman [4k\]: yes robinsa
Andreaa [11k\]: semai in the corner in the right...
Andreaa [11k\]: T1
Andreaa [11k\]: it s a semai
rayen [2k\]: no
Andreaa [11k\]: no sorry...
Andreaa [11k\]: two eyes
Andreaa [11k\]: my bad
rayen [2k\]: 
KoReNJe [?\]: those ko threats that are worth more? :P
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: let us count the ko threats for black
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: how many does black have?
Javaness [2k\]: I hope they have a ko fight
Zahlman [4k\]: I don't think b gets much ko threat material against d11 if w's first ko threat is e11 
Warfreak2 [8k\]: n1 n2 o1 r1 o1 and w has one eye
dhalsim [11k\]: not as many as w
rayen [2k\]: I count atleast 5
osullivan [1k?\]: 6?
jeandoute [4d\]: why o17 before?
jeandoute [4d\]: why not
Kamisama [10k\]: T5 N5?
KoReNJe [?\]: more than 10 ko threats in good for black
FransCV [7k\]: at least 8
EdhelDil [6k\]: t3 then t4, p5, s7, k9, t11 ? b18, ...
godork [12k\]: jeandote is right
lobo [6k\]: 6
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: how many ko threats did you find for black?
KoReNJe [?\]: more than 10
godork [12k\]: doute*
]
;B[pa]C[EdhelDil [6k\]: and f1, etc
]
;W[qd]
;B[qe]
;W[pe]
;B[qb]C[chrislo [8k\]: i saw 4
doerp [10k\]: 8
]
;W[kd]LB[lc:A]C[selvina [7k\]: 8
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: this is a painful ko threat
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: white has even more ko threats.
Buckley [5k?\]: why is tihs ko threat?
]
;B[ld]C[Buckley [5k?\]: tihs =this
]
;W[pb]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: after this push, white can cut at A
dhalsim [11k\]: why is that a koh threat?  not so immediate...?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: white has even more ko threats
burtabel [4d\]: black has 4 in lower right
EdhelDil [6k\]: dhalsim: threatens whole black group
emk [3k\]: isnt there another ko at t6?
]
;B[so]C[EdhelDil [6k\]: dhalsim: black could't let it be separated
]
;W[qo]
;B[qb]C[simpkin [10k\]: no, its dead, isn't it, emk?
Zahlman [4k\]: no emk
dhalsim [11k\]: whole black group on left top?  still a lot of liberties no?
]
;W[bk]C[EdhelDil [6k\]: dhalsim: libs, yes, eyes : no 
Zahlman [4k\]: libs don't matter much when surrounded by already alive groups 
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: matthew is very clear about the situation
nikallday [7k\]: Is K4 a good ko threat?
emk [3k\]: ah ok 
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: he knows he is winnig, black doesn't have enough
]
;B[ra]C[Robinsa [18k\]: k4 if very big nikallday
]
;W[bl]
;B[bm]
;W[ch]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: what we should learn from this game: in the middle game fighting, keep the mind clear!
Javaness [2k\]: oh furikawari
lefuet [3k\]: nikallday: k4 threatens a false eye
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: whatever fighting we have, keep your mind clear
]
;B[ds]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: after black B15 white was leading
EdhelDil [6k\]: isn't the top right corner bigger than the loss in b9 ?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: J18 is quite big
]
(;W[qs]C[Zahlman [4k\]: w didn't need as much there as living would be worth... hanami ko 
rayen [2k\]: haha
EdhelDil [6k\]: the bottom right corner dies first?
koroshiya [4k\]: n5 makes another eye
]
;B[ib]C[Javaness [2k\]: why did white play R1
TonyTiger [1k\]: hehe
]
;W[hb]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: matthew is asking black to resign
KoReNJe [?\]: oh dear
]
(;B[ic]C[Javaness [2k\]: black is stubborn 
Warfreak2 [8k\]: guojuan says, r1 asks b to resign
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: how about the situation now?
]
;W[jc]
;B[ja]
;W[hc]
;B[ia]C[SevTheSev [16k?\]: yes
hedkandi05 [13k\]: 1-1
]
;W[lc]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: nice move
simpkin [10k\]: I don't understand
simpkin [10k\]: ohh
]
;B[lb]C[koroshiya [4k\]: b will have to spend several moves to capture m17
Zahlman [4k\]: order is important 
DnFBlitz [2k\]: BGAadmin [-\]: black resigns
EdhelDil [6k\]: inne: 5 dan pro 
TonyTiger [1k\]: yes
]
;W[mc]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: the idea of this move is like this:
simpkin [10k\]: gotcha
tmc [-\]: oh
simpkin [10k\]: nasty
InneFlame [12k\]: why the teacher heve 5p rank?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: this is the idea!
quietman [8k\]: l19 before nobi okay, same?
simpkin [10k\]: he has, yes
DnFBlitz [2k\]: black resigned
]
(;B[mb]C[simpkin [10k\]: yes
simpkin [10k\]: yes
mamolo [6k\]: yes
DnFBlitz [2k\]: yes
mamolo [6k\]: I woul never see m17 it´s nice
Javaness [2k\]: BGAadmin [-\]: black resigns
rayen [2k\]: Game of the month ! 
tmc [-\]: thank you
Warfreak2 [8k\]: thanks for the commentary
hedkandi05 [13k\]: thank you
KGS3 [12k?\]: thx for your lecture
InneFlame [12k\]: you're professional?
simpkin [10k\]: thank youf or the commentary, guojuan
EdhelDil [6k\]: thanks very much Guojuan 
rayen [2k\]: thanks
Lcjs [8k\]: thanks
Splitter [2d?\]: thank you
DnFBlitz [2k\]: thank you very much guojuan!
simpkin [10k\]: it was extremely intesreting
godork [12k\]: thanks for the demonstraston
Titonio [?\]: thx guo juan
Alenchon [10k\]: thank yuo very much for your insights about go!!!
offtosea [10k?\]: Thanks guo juan
SevTheSev [16k?\]: thank you Guo Juan
EdhelDil [6k\]: very clear, as usual
yaniro [12k\]: thx guojuan !!!
Nirut [10k\]: thx
Russianlll [7k\]: thank you, Gua Juan
Zahlman [4k\]: m17 is the sort of thing you can train yourself to play speculatively 
Hk1 [13k\]: thank you
koroshiya [4k\]: thanks for the lecture
Robinsa [18k\]: thank you
FransCV [7k\]: thank you
chrislo [8k\]: thanks for all this day lesson
usagi [1k\]: thx
Kilik [4k\]: thank you gojuan
Zahlman [4k\]: thank you 
issiel [11k\]: thanks
TotoroShan [4k\]: thanks a lot Guo Juan
quietman [8k\]: thank you for comments/lesson
Przemas [8k?\]: thx
Parklane [10k\]: thank you
Kamisama [10k\]: thank you Guo Juan
godork [12k\]: thanks
Javaness [2k\]: thank you Guo Juan
GoFar [4k?\]: Thanks
tuerda [3k\]: thanks
JMEdwards [12k\]: thank you
dhalsim [11k\]: thank you
selvina [7k\]: thanks
Pingu007 [2d\]: thx 
Engalgo [9k\]: Thanks.
KGS3 [12k?\]: thxxx
nikallday [7k\]: Thank you. It was very good to listen to you goujuan 
bigfatcat [3k\]: tx
Riter554 [18k\]: thank you guojuan!
aglef [4k?\]: Thanks
glOBaL [-\]: thx
BGAadmin [-\]: thanks Guo Juan
GoKlaus [?\]: thx you
tflynch [11k\]: how does m17 work someone who follows?
Mot [3k?\]: thanks a lot 
usagi [1k\]: thx 
moag: Thanks!!
simpkin [10k\]: yep, 1:1
Javaness [2k\]: http://www.audiogolessons.com
richieb [13k\]: thanks
ruger [11k\]: thx
simpkin [10k\]: exciting
KoReNJe [?\]: cu
tmc [-\]: yeah
Alenchon [10k\]: bye
yaniro [12k\]: cu !
KGS3 [12k?\]: cu 
Kamisama [10k\]: till next time then
koroshiya [4k\]: thanks and bye
FransCV [7k\]: cu
mamolo [6k\]: thank you very much 
EdhelDil [6k\]: more convulated whole board fights! yeah!
Robinsa [18k\]: When is the next game?
BigElefant [13k\]: thank you very much
SevTheSev [16k?\]: cu
ninjiutsu [?\]: whos b?
KGS3 [12k?\]: cya^^
Hk1 [13k\]: cu
InneFlame [12k\]: you're pro?
tmc [-\]: bye
Russianlll [7k\]: bye
mamolo [6k\]: bye bye
rayen [2k\]: cya 
aglef [4k?\]: CU
blbn [1d\]: thx
KoReNJe [?\]: thx
FransCV [7k\]: thanks  again
Splitter [2d?\]: bye
Warfreak2 [8k\]: b is bei ge
InneFlame [12k\]: bye
Sec [9k?\]: bye
racine [1k\]: thanks
v00ndutch: thank you
Hk1 [13k\]: bye
glOBaL [-\]: cu bye
v00ndutch: bye
steve2005 [5k\]: thznk you, Huo Juan
TonyTiger [1k\]: 88
doerp [10k\]: thx
EdhelDil [6k\]: have a nice evening!
Lacrimosa [1k?\]: thank you
hirurg [9k\]: thank you
gtrmsn [1d\]: thank you guojuan
Wfreedom [4d\]: 88
bigfatcat [3k\]: see you
InneFlame [12k\]: you're pro
simpkin [10k\]: 7th October, folks, for the next one
JMEdwards [12k\]: take care
GO12 [3d\]: bye thx 
Javaness [2k\]: 1-1 next match 7th october
Buntownik [6k\]: dzeki
InneFlame [12k\]: you're pro
Jadeite [8k?\]: guojuan working hard today 
EdhelDil [6k\]: cool 
Russianlll [7k\]: where?
yaniro [12k\]: thanks you !
ToyStore [11k\]: yore pro :D
lefuet [3k\]: cu
FransCV [7k\]: cu
yaniro [12k\]: bye
simpkin [10k\]: better go give your voice a break, then!
Javaness [2k\]: bye
Jadeite [8k?\]: Ing goe Internet class
doerp [10k\]: where is she teaching?
InneFlame [12k\]: she's professional?
]
;W[ka]C[rayen [2k\]: b lost more stone s 
EdhelDil [6k\]: nice!
]
;B[la]
;W[ha]
;B[ka]
;W[nb])
(;B[ma]C[KGS3 [12k?\]: 5dan-professional
]
;W[ha]
;B[ka]C[Pingu007 [2d\]: he resigned
]
;W[mb]))
(;B[jc]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: the cut was a very nice move
]))
(;W[kg]
;B[jf]
(;W[ib])
(;W[jj]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: these moves are sente for white
]
;B[]C[Zahlman [4k\]: edhel yes, but the loss at b9 is bigger than nothing
]
;W[ei]
;B[hn]
;W[gi]))
(;W[ib]C[EdhelDil [6k\]: why black j17 and not k17 ?
]
;B[ms]
;W[mr]
(;B[qs]
;W[ns])
(;B[ns]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: R1 is really not necessary! 
]
;W[qs]
;B[ns]C[Pingu007 [2d\]: because of n2 maybe?
lofuchi [7k\]: oh?
Kilik [4k\]: black N2?
Buckley [5k?\]: s4 
]
;W[ps]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: ok, black has such a thing, but is this possible?
])))
(;W[rb]
;B[pa]
;W[qd]
;B[qe]
;W[pe]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: white finishes the ko with T16
]
(;B[qb]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: it seems to be ko
])
(;B[]
;W[sd]
;B[se]
;W[qf]))
(;W[ei]C[jeandoute [4d\]: t18?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: white has one threat here
]))
(;B[rb]
;W[sb]
;B[ra]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: if black wants to kill, black has to play like this
]
;W[qd]
;B[qe]
;W[pe])
(;B[sb]
(;W[sc]
;B[rb]
;W[qb]
;B[pe]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: this is a second killing move
])
(;W[rb]
;B[sc]
;W[qd]
;B[qe]
;W[pe]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: white must play like this
Buckley [5k?\]: ko
Buckley [5k?\]: ?
Zahlman [4k\]: ko?
adsfrgds: no
adsfrgds: why?
adsfrgds: double ko
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: this is a ko
])))
(;W[qd]
;B[qe]
;W[pe]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: can white cut directly?
EdhelDil [6k\]: as are Guojuan's 
adsfrgds: b has a chance to wib?
playmore [3d\]: no
adsfrgds: win*
]
(;B[qb]
;W[rb]
;B[pa]C[hohoho1: s_18
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: this is not possible
])
(;B[rb]
;W[qb]
;B[sc])))
(;B[ob]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: can anyone see something for black to do?  i think white is alive
EdhelDil [6k\]: then link to l18
saodiseng [3d\]: white r16
]
;W[pb]
;B[nb]
;W[qd]
;B[qe]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: i lost audio :/
]
;W[pe]
;B[pc]
;W[qb]LB[pa:1][qa:2][rb:3][sc:4]C[Warfreak2 [8k\]: says "no audio" for me
christopff [2k\]: me to
mamolo [6k\]: me too
godork [12k\]: mw too
Winters [7k\]: same here
KoReNJe [?\]: yep no audio 
christopff [2k\]: but the is no auio under close
EdhelDil [6k\]: no audio while she sties some moves, probably
DnFBlitz [2k\]: audio now fine
Javaness [2k\]: effectively 5
EdhelDil [6k\]: sties=tries
KoReNJe [?\]: more than 4
Idn [2k\]: 4 minimum
toones [9k\]: more than 4
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: how many liberties does white have in the corner?
Subzero [5k\]: 5
Tianren246: yes it is
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: 5 liberties for white
]
;B[sb]
;W[sc]C[Idn [2k\]: ok
]
;B[pa]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: since black needs T18 it's five
KoReNJe [?\]: T15
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: how should white kill black?
dhalsim [11k\]: s19?
playmore [3d\]: t15 
uter [1d\]: t15
Zahlman [4k\]: t15
]
(;W[se]
;B[sd]C[mamolo [6k\]: t15 
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: T15 is correct
]
;W[qf]
;B[sf]
;W[rf])
(;W[sd]C[EdhelDil [6k\]: oh ok
]
;B[se]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: not like this
])))
(;W[qc]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: S12 was only because white played Q13, which was not really good
]
;B[pc]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]
;W[qa]TR[od][pd][re][kh][ph][qh][rh][sh]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: the corner lives small
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: if the triangled stones would not have died, white might die
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: but now white is completely alive
]))
(;W[rc]C[Andreaa [11k\]: why ?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: S16 was a good move to escape
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: now matthew has to find S17
]
(;B[rd]
;W[qc]
;B[qd]
;W[pc]
;B[nb]
;W[ob])
(;B[pc]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: S17 still works though!
]
;W[qe])
(;B[qd]
;W[pb]
;B[nb]
;W[rd])))
(;W[rc]
;B[qd])
(;W[rd]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: S16 is also a tesuji
]))
(;W[rc]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: GouJuan: now white has sente!
DnFBlitz [2k\]: GouJuan: in the corner, white can play here!
]
;B[rd]
;W[qc]
;B[pc]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]
;W[qa]C[Zahlman [4k\]: o_O
]
;B[rb]
;W[sb]
;B[ra]
;W[qd]
;B[qe]
;W[pe]C[kirisute [-\]: DnF, it's "Guo" 
DnFBlitz [2k\]: oops sry :(
])
(;W[fs]C[simpkin [10k\]: black already has two eyes, robinsa
EdhelDil [6k\]: f1 then black d1
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: if white wants to live, F1 is better
Javaness [2k\]: you think he is too careful?
Hk1 [13k\]: e1 
])
(;W[lc]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: white should not play K6, there is no cut
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: instead, white should M17 tsuke
KoReNJe [?\]: P17 not good?
Robinsa [18k\]: simpkin  white simply play j 5
])
(;W[oc]C[EdhelDil [6k\]: oh i see: f1 d1 g2 -  but then e1 seems easier
]
;B[od]C[Robinsa [18k\]: and then k 4
DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: white can also play P17
]
;W[rc]C[Robinsa [18k\]: ?
]
(;B[pc]
;W[qe]
(;B[rd]
;W[qd]
;B[qc]
;W[rb]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: guojuan: this is possible
])
(;B[qd]
;W[rd]))
(;B[rd]
;W[pc])))
(;W[]
;B[kk]
;W[jl]
;B[ij])
(;W[im]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: GouJuan: black threatens to kill white, but white can connect in sente
white [-\]: and he did
]))
(;B[ms]
;W[mr]C[guestguy: ?
]
;B[lk]C[digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: Black still need one more move to live here
]
;W[im]C[digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: Can I say black play something like that?
]
;B[hn]
(;W[kb])
(;W[lc]
))
(;B[]
;W[pm]
;B[pl]
;W[nj]C[Andreaa [11k\]: he played
]
;B[oj]
;W[nl]
;B[nk]
;W[ol]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: GouJuan: after black lives white can M17 - tesuji
]))
(;B[jq]C[adsfrgds: dame is the useless points to fill
digikid [10k\]: she spelled somthing like dame damage or something
]
;W[pm]C[digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: 
]
;B[pl]
;W[nj]
;B[oj]
;W[nl]
;B[ol]C[bigfatcat [3k\]: literally
]
;W[mk]
;B[nk]
;W[lk]
(;B[ns]C[chrislo [8k\]: too much ko
friend [2k\]: w o10 bo9
]
;W[so]
;B[sp]C[digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: so black plays like this
]
;W[sn]
;B[no]
;W[oo]
;B[mo]
;W[qo]
;B[rp]C[digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: connect
]
;W[mr]
;B[qm]
;W[ms]C[digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: So if black connects here, still one liberty
]
;B[qs]C[miyuu [1d\]: but if bblack give up p7 he live?
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: whoops -_-
Hikarujr [15k\]: dead
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: That means, Matthew is trying to kill everything
])
(;B[so]C[Buckley [5k?\]: i wanted white is winning 
]
;W[qo]
;B[rp]
;W[sq]C[Javaness [2k\]: white can play O1
]
;B[rm]
;W[sn]C[EdhelDil [6k\]: we'll call that atari the "whoopsing" move
]
;B[ns]C[digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: White kills the black and black plays like that
]
;W[mr]
;B[no]
;W[oo]
(;B[mp]C[kalim [6k\]: e1 ?
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: Black can play like this, but you see black is dying everywhere
adsfrgds: eek
]
;W[mo])
(;B[mo]
;W[ms]
;B[qs]
(;W[mp])
(;W[sp]
;B[ss]
;W[sq]C[hohoho1: can not
])))))
(;B[]
;W[nj]
;B[oj]
;W[pm]C[digikid [10k\]: Don't tell me dame -
]
;B[pl]C[bigfatcat [3k\]: b pass?
]
;W[nl]C[digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: Black is not alive?
]
;B[ol]
;W[mk]
;B[nk]
;W[lk]C[digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: And saya like this..
KoReNJe [?\]: haha
EdhelDil [6k\]: wow
Zahlman [4k\]: !
DnFBlitz [2k\]: wow!
mamolo [6k\]: what has just appemed???
hohoho1: O__o
Modomannen [4k\]: ooh
adsfrgds: i told you  s9 
Snakou [18k\]: wow
digikid [10k\]: says*
Russianlll [7k\]: wah
Idn [2k\]: omg !
adsfrgds: nobody listen
mamolo [6k\]: sorry happened?
digikid [10k\]: Black should resign by now
Hk1 [13k\]: omg
quietman [8k\]: over now imo
DnFBlitz [2k\]: this is not the game yet though 
Engalgo [9k\]: not good, poor black
miyuu [1d\]: but man, black messed up badly hehe
Snakou [18k\]: yeah
hedkandi05 [13k\]: 1-1 perhaps 
miyuu [1d\]: 
bigfatcat [3k\]: maybe five yeart old son took over the computer
digikid [10k\]: Guojuan: Omygod..
]))
(;B[so]
;W[qo]))
(;W[so]
;B[sp]
;W[sr]C[digikid [10k\]: I made mistake here, there's no ko
]
;B[sn]C[quietman [8k\]: b dead?
]))
(;B[]
;W[so]))
(;W[pk]
;B[pl]
;W[ol]LB[nd:B][of:A]C[simpkin [10k\]: Black is Bei Ge, British 5d; White is Matthew Macfadyen, British 6d
]))
(;B[md]C[digikid [10k\]: defensive?
rayen [2k\]: wow
Javaness [2k\]: maybe he ate too much for lunch
adsfrgds: if w m1 bo1 what happens?
DnFBlitz [2k\]: black has not yet played, white protecting the cut was the last move
rayen [2k\]: b has to be ahead by alot
EdhelDil [6k\]: black seems better, but top right still open?
])
(;B[om]C[Zahlman [4k\]: ads, like modo said
adsfrgds: why not protect at p15 ?
]
;W[nd]LB[fe:A][oq:B]TR[jc][kc][lc][mc][bd][cd][kd][ld][je][cf][df][ef][ff][hf][if]C[Andreaa [11k\]:  
hohoho1:     
friend [2k\]: a
digikid [10k\]: B of course
digikid [10k\]: few mins?
Modomannen [4k\]: a
hohoho1: 
dhalsim [11k\]: A
KoReNJe [?\]: :p
rayen [2k\]: A
digikid [10k\]: I'll be right back too 
kirisute [-\]: is there a need to count? obviously A 
TeeSushi [3k\]: a because of the teritory around
simpkin [10k\]: I'm thinking A ...
KoReNJe [?\]: a obviously
digikid [10k\]: All A :S
Zahlman [4k\]: hehe
Tianren246: a
Hk1 [13k\]: A
simpkin [10k\]: no, digikid didn't agree 
EdhelDil [6k\]: A gives lots moire territory
Buntownik [6k\]: B
dhalsim [11k\]: b is a bad clumped shape
Zahlman [4k\]: although it raises the question, how do you expect a kyu to count "a group" when there is all this unsettled terr next to it 
KoReNJe [?\]: but I wonder if b can surbive with A group after O16 :D
EdhelDil [6k\]: unless C p9 can still be killed... then B is to be kept alive
Buntownik [6k\]: B is bigger
KoReNJe [?\]: I bet A group can live :D
Zahlman [4k\]: seems extremely hard to me koren
Zahlman [4k\]: I mean... what do you want to try first?
tmc [-\]: I can hear clicks.  Does that mean they're playing?
quietman [8k\]: a looks so big i must be very hard to kill
kalim [6k\]: maybe it is a trick question
soulangel [2k\]: a is bigger
simpkin [10k\]: well - if you've got the real game open you can now see what white thinks, *if* he's stopped to think it
KoReNJe [?\]: lol
simpkin [10k\]: tmc - yes - if you open the game that BGAadmin has open, it's got the real moves in
KoReNJe [?\]: b has 1 eye at B17
kirisute [-\]: A is obviously bigger but not obviously killable...
KoReNJe [?\]: but
Snakou [18k\]: with O16, A is strong enough to white to make do a hard work to B to obtain its eyes
blbn [1d\]: 01 kills
KoReNJe [?\]: black F13 probably makes a life
kalim [6k\]: seems like even if a lives upper right might die
Zahlman [4k\]: we were asked to count, not to read 
Buntownik [6k\]: b
digikid [10k\]: Helo!
Snakou [18k\]: ^^
Buntownik [6k\]: B
Russianlll [7k\]: A
rayen [2k\]: A is much bigger
digikid [10k\]: B??
simpkin [10k\]: we think A
Buntownik [6k\]: B
KoReNJe [?\]: lol
Winters [7k\]: B
TeeSushi [3k\]: A
Snakou [18k\]: A
GoKlaus [?\]:  A
FransCV [7k\]: A
kalim [6k\]: A!
blbn [1d\]: b difficult to kill ?
Tianren246: a
simpkin [10k\]: well, Matthew doesn't think so, apparently
KoReNJe [?\]: A is a lot bigger because of the free space
yhtut [11k\]: a
digikid [10k\]: YES #_#
KoReNJe [?\]: guo, but if A is alive, it isn't much bigger :P
digikid [10k\]: I thought so
]))
(;W[oj]
;B[nj]
;W[pk])
(;W[lf]
;B[ke]
;W[me]
;B[md]
;W[nd]C[adsfrgds: hmm
])
(;W[]C[danny18 [-\]: i think to do o16 
]
;B[om]C[KoReNJe [?\]: maybe white will go for the corner t19
]
;W[ls]C[digikid [10k\]: Lol
]
;B[jq]
;W[ns]
;B[ms]
;W[mr])
(;W[pk]
;B[pl]
;W[ol]
(;B[nl]
;W[oj])
(;B[om]
;W[oj]
;B[nl]
;W[nj])
(;B[nk]
;W[rj]
;B[sj]
;W[om]C[adsfrgds: so many vars
]
;B[oj]C[adsfrgds: ma head...
]
;W[pj]
(;B[nl]
;W[lk]C[adsfrgds: spinning...
])
(;B[ri]C[Zahlman [4k\]: you will notice some common themes though ads 
digikid [10k\]: Dead?
soulangel [2k\]: b win
digikid [10k\]: I don't see the point...
rayen [2k\]: b wins
]
;W[lk]C[bigfatcat [3k\]: white can connect in sente
adsfrgds: yeah
]
;B[mk]
;W[nl]
;B[rk]C[digikid [10k\]: Hm...
digikid [10k\]: I see...
simpkin [10k\]: at move 176, BGAadmin [-\]: bei ge 2.5 hours BGAadmin [-\]: matthew 2 hrs 12 minutes
]
;W[me]
;B[md]
;W[nd]C[adsfrgds: isnt n15 to direct?
]))))
(;B[si]C[Javaness [2k\]: oh
digikid [10k\]: The two stones seem dangerous
adsfrgds: im so confused
nicat [4k\]: thx
]
;W[qi]C[dhalsim [11k\]: T11? not s10?
]
;B[sj]
;W[oj]
;B[nj]
;W[pk]C[digikid [10k\]: Black lives?
adsfrgds: only
Javaness [2k\]: ko is great
rayen [2k\]: what a crazy game 
]))
(;W[pk]C[digikid [10k\]: GuoJuan is soooo coool
Russianlll [7k\]: ko? how she sees that?
Zahlman [4k\]: p15? you don't really want to touch outside of an open 4-4 like that
]
;B[pl]
(;W[rj]C[christopff [2k\]: it is as if a one digit kyu watches a 25 k
danny18 [-\]: adsfrgds-you no must  see that.
]
(;B[rg]C[adsfrgds: q16 stone looks lonely
digikid [10k\]: I don't think it's the game.. GuoJuan is being so cool XD
]
;W[ol]C[kirogo [11k\]: b played
])
(;B[oj]
;W[rg]
;B[pj]
;W[qi]
;B[qk]
;W[om]
;B[ol]
;W[nl]
;B[nk]
;W[ls]
;B[jq]
;W[nd]C[Snakou [18k\]: ^^
danny18 [-\]: lol
Zahlman [4k\]: ^^
digikid [10k\]: Really?
adsfrgds: are you chienese?
digikid [10k\]: I'll get a heart-attack if I'm white or black
adsfrgds: chinese?
digikid [10k\]: I am, GuoJuan is
simpkin [10k\]: good; we enjoy it too 
christopff [2k\]: this is so mean 
digikid [10k\]: ^__^
christopff [2k\]: 
hedkandi05 [13k\]: good for spectators
Snakou [18k\]: ^^ digikid
adsfrgds: i been to china
adsfrgds: two mothes ago
Zahlman [4k\]: 
koroshiya [4k\]: lets not go offtopic...
nicat [4k\]: what does^^ mean/
digikid [10k\]: Yes..
simpkin [10k\]: so games are far more fun, you're saying, where the players are crazy?
Zahlman [4k\]: it is a smiley nicat
]))
(;W[ol])))
(;B[ri]C[Xilux [-\]: welcome back
]
;W[rj]
;B[rg]
;W[pk]
;B[pl]
;W[ol]
;B[nk]
;W[om]
;B[oj]
;W[pj]C[KoReNJe [?\]: 1 libery short?
adsfrgds: so b s14 ?
]))
(;W[pg]C[Xilux [-\]: make sense
]
;B[qh]
;W[qg]C[adsfrgds: w can make an eye
]
(;B[qi]C[Sjoerd [4k\]: m1 sente for white?
])
(;B[ri]
;W[rj]
;B[rg]C[unknowmplr [9k\]: is this the same game?
Javaness [2k\]: fighting is always fun
]))
(;W[pk]C[Zahlman [4k\]: b shape just too fragile
KoReNJe [?\]: how about R12 first 
blueshoe [3k\]: q9 is so clever... hard to see
danny18 [-\]: q8 >??
soulangel [2k\]: q9 key point
]
;B[pl]
;W[ol]
(;B[om]
;W[oj]
;B[nl]
;W[nj]LB[pm:4][qm:3][rm:2][sn:1][oo:6][qo:5][mp:7][lq:8][mr:9]C[mamolo [6k\]: certainly eys I thing
rayen [2k\]: wait b can maybe sacrifice ?
adsfrgds: seki?
danny18 [-\]: no
burtabel [4d\]: 6 not a liberty with right timing?
soulangel [2k\]: to many lib
danny18 [-\]: W take that
Zahlman [4k\]: also w can get at least one eye 
rayen [2k\]: go back a few moves 
adsfrgds: does it matter
])
(;B[oj]C[Xilux [-\]: nice tesuji
adsfrgds: so p10 bad?
]
;W[nk]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: difficult ?
Javaness [2k\]: tesuji
Zahlman [4k\]: painful
DnFBlitz [2k\]: seems difficult to me 
]
;B[om]
;W[nl]
;B[pm]
;W[mk])
(;B[nk]
;W[om]
;B[qh]
;W[rj]C[Zahlman [4k\]: seki?
]
;B[oj]
;W[pj]C[soulangel [2k\]: s11
Zahlman [4k\]: er temporary seki 
]
;B[qi]
;W[lk]
;B[mk]
;W[nl]C[Xilux [-\]: b is 1 lib short
]))
(;W[qh]C[KoReNJe [?\]: hm
]
;B[pg]C[Kamisama [10k\]: will black resign if he gets killed there?
]))
(;B[ph]))
(;W[pl]))
(;B[ph]C[adsfrgds: the cut?
]))
(;W[oh]C[simpkin [10k\]: a game of great stresses!
erikk [1d?\]: real ama game
]
;B[ni]
;W[nh]
;B[mj]
;W[li]
;B[pj]
;W[qi]
;B[qk]C[Kagora [17k\]: טקדץ
Kamisama [10k\]: looks like it
Kagora [17k\]: yes.
]))
(;W[nl]C[KoReNJe [?\]: b can kill with E13? :p
Modomannen [4k\]: na
KoReNJe [?\]: oops
]
(;B[om]
(;W[pl]C[Hikaru79 [-\]: then wG1 and white has two eyes
])
(;W[ol]
;B[pm]
;W[pl]
;B[qm]
;W[pk]))
(;B[ei]
;W[fs])
(;B[ds]C[Modomannen [4k\]: cant b e12 instead?
]
;W[eg]
;B[ei]C[jhonatan [8k\]: oiii
]
;W[eh]
;B[ch]
;W[dh]
;B[bk]
;W[gi]))
(;W[ls]
;B[jq]
;W[qj]))
(;B[gj]
;W[nl]
;B[ds]
;W[eg]
;B[ei]C[quietman [8k\]: where is w territory?
Robinsa [18k\]: why not black f1?
]))
(;W[ei]
;B[gj]
;W[ch]
;B[bk]
;W[eg]
;B[oi]))
(;B[]
;W[cq]
;B[bq]
;W[cr]))
(;B[lp]C[kirisute [-\]: 
jeandoute [4d\]: o1 here
jeandoute [4d\]: ?
])
(;B[om]
;W[ks]
;B[jr]
;W[mo]
;B[ln]C[rayen [2k\]: yes
]
;W[lp]
;B[oo]
;W[no]LB[jp:1][jq:2][js:3]C[idiot2 [2d\]: isnt it 2 eyes ?
miyuu [1d\]: this is 2 eyes?
fosil [-\]: m3 also eye?
])
(;B[ks]
;W[pl]))
(;W[mo]))
(;B[ks])
(;B[lp]
;W[ks]
;B[jr]
;W[lq]
;B[nm]
;W[lm]
;B[om]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: w
RikkuKun [15k\]: well i am going have fun everyone i have lerned alot  cu
haukka [8k\]: N5 sente in semeai?
]))
(;W[ei]
;B[gj]
;W[ch]
;B[bk]
;W[eg]
;B[]
;W[ff]))
(;B[be]C[Buckley [5k?\]: ?
]))
(;W[gs]
;B[is]
;W[fq]
;B[ks]
;W[dr]C[lancelot3 [16k\]: yes
]
;B[cr]
;W[fs]C[rayen [2k\]: nice
]
;B[qi]
;W[qh]
;B[qj]
;W[ph]
;B[nm]
;W[lm]
;B[nj]
;W[ni]
;B[lp]))
(;B[oi]
;W[oh]
;B[ni]
(;W[ph])
(;W[nh]C[RikkuKun [15k\]: is this game will be for downlaod with voice ?
]
;B[ph]C[white [-\]: rikku: no
rayen [2k\]: b play well in midgame 
white [-\]: i stand corrected^^
tmc [-\]: good 
EdhelDil [6k\]: audiogolessons.com ?
Kamisama [10k\]: audiogolessons.com !
RikkuKun [15k\]: ok thank you 
EdhelDil [6k\]: nice 
])))
(;B[cp]C[simpkin [10k\]: Rikku - yes, it's the second game in the 5 British Championship games series
yhtut [11k\]: c3
RikkuKun [15k\]: OK
Buckley [5k?\]: for w
]
(;W[fq]
;B[gs]C[Buckley [5k?\]: i guess, its hard to come back
])
(;W[gs]
;B[is]
;W[jr]
;B[gr]C[Buckley [5k?\]: no
]
;W[ej]C[idiot2 [2d\]: game is different
Buckley [5k?\]: game is different
rayen [2k\]: q11 is last move
]
;B[gj]C[Modomannen [4k\]: thats not game
idiot2 [2d\]: w played on the right side
friend [2k\]: white try to complicate ?
]
;W[nl]
(;B[bi])
(;B[cj]C[DnFBlitz [2k\]: game is at move 124, white played at Q11
Ender [10k\]: omg w played q11 
Modomannen [4k\]: thats not game
rayen [2k\]: :D
Javaness [2k\]: yes you're right
]
;W[ci]
;B[qg]TR[qg][kl][nl][rl][km][mm][kn][eq][fr][gr]C[physics [3k\]: S5 group is still ko?
]))))
(;W[gs]
;B[is]
;W[fq]
;B[ks]
;W[dr]
;B[cr]
;W[fs]C[jeandoute [4d\]: lol
]
(;B[dp]LB[fn:A])
(;B[nm]
;W[lm]
;B[nk]
;W[ls]C[RikkuKun [15k\]: i need to go in short time someone know if this game will be for downlaod with shoun ? or something like this ?
]
;B[jq]C[friend [2k\]: who won the first game?
]
(;W[ns]
;B[ms]
;W[mr]C[Javaness [2k\]: it's gote
]
(;B[oh])
(;B[og])
(;B[nh])
(;B[pg]C[RikkuKun [15k\]: shound*
KoReNJe [?\]: why doesn't white make eyes with N5 and gain sente :p
]))
(;W[mo]
;B[ln]C[KoReNJe [?\]: no?
KoReNJe [?\]: right
EdhelDil [6k\]: m4 needded
]))))
(;W[gq]
;B[eq]
;W[gs]
;B[is]
;W[fq]
;B[ks]
;W[ls]
;B[jq]
;W[dr]C[Power [7k\]: ALIVE
]
;B[nm]
;W[lm]
;B[nk]
;W[ns]
;B[ms]
;W[mr]
;B[oh]C[Robinsa [18k\]: thx
digikid [10k\]: Black's rich of teritorry
Buckley [5k?\]: corner is live?
Javaness [2k\]: do you think White could have time to attack P9 ?
]))
(;B[hs]LB[di:1][nm:2]C[bigfatcat [3k\]: lunch is over
Javaness [2k\]: yes lunch is over
bigfatcat [3k\]: not for me, though
]))
(;W[so]
;B[sp]
;W[qs]
;B[rs]C[Luanda [12k\]: white is the 5 dan ?
]
;W[sr]C[Buckley [5k?\]: thank you
]
;B[sn]
;W[sm]
;B[so]C[KoReNJe [?\]: so black is bei ge?
]
;W[rm]
;B[qo]C[rayen [2k\]: probably 
]))
(;B[hs]C[Power [7k\]: sHE IS A cHINESE
Power [7k\]: mE TOO
Ender [10k\]: caps.....
friend [2k\]: so l2 life
yithril [2k\]: what if b e4 to threaten g3?
yithril [2k\]: earlier
RikkuKun [15k\]: ho i see
rayen [2k\]: battle is not over 
Andreaa [11k\]: is it lunch time ?
]
;W[gs]
;B[gq]
;W[is]
;B[gr]
;W[hs]
;B[js]))
(;W[gr]
;B[gs]
;W[hs]
;B[is]
;W[fs]C[rayen [2k\]: wo
]
;B[kr]C[rayen [2k\]: wow
rayen [2k\]: this is nice
]))
(;B[nm]C[rayen [2k\]: yes
]
;W[lm]C[RikkuKun [15k\]: oh that keybored 
]))
(;W[gk]
;B[lm]
;W[ln]
;B[nm]
;W[mo]LB[om:5][pm:4][qm:3][rm:2][sn:1][qo:6][mr:7]C[rayen [2k\]: what about atari at o7 
Javaness [2k\]: Guojuan would like to play G9 to take liberties
yithril [2k\]: what if black e4 to threaten g3?
Djey [15k\]: thanks
wauiwa [?\]: m6 at o7?
koroshiya [4k\]: b has few liberties, so it's one idea to play for kill
Power [7k\]: Don't understand what she say
]))
(;B[gi]
;W[fh]
;B[gk]))
(;W[ba]))
(;B[jn]C[bigfatcat [3k\]: hihi
Javaness [2k\]: wants to cut at N7
Kerochan [4k\]: n7 
ofap [7k\]: There is death in the tenuki
simpkin [11k\]: miktex - guojuan was asking earlier - can anyone tell her the correct form of Bei's name - can you tell her? the rest of us were too English ...
]
;W[mm]
;B[lm]
;W[ln]
;B[nm]
;W[mo]
;B[jl])
(;B[]
;W[in]C[Ordiac [4k\]: but q8 is not cut keima at waist ?
Angrolfin [13k\]: britain time is GMT no?
Hilarius [4k\]: should be lunch about now
]))
(;W[pl]C[Ordiac [4k\]: i would r1 first here
Javaness [2k\]: pass move
KuudeeKun [5k\]: audio seems to work now
ArkSpartan [?\]: o10?
simpkin [11k\]: KuudeeKun - poor commentator's entitled to a break!
Robinsa [18k\]: white j2 kills?
Robinsa [18k\]: I would say
simpkin [11k\]: thanks
koroshiya [4k\]: 1 pm at britain now
Ender [10k\]: for a moment
KoReNJe [?\]: 15:35 in slovenia :p
]
(;B[pk]
;W[nl]
;B[nk]
;W[mk]
;B[nm]
;W[ol]
;B[ir]
;W[ip]
;B[jp]
;W[ho]
;B[jq]C[Sates [14k\]: this is 2nd match right?
Sates [14k\]: who won the first?
Javaness [2k\]: Black: Bei Ge 5d :: White Matthew Macfadyen 6d :: http://www.britgo.org/bchamp/2006/
]
;W[kr]C[Robinsa [18k\]: T  2?
miktex [?\]: Bei Ge won the first game
Sates [14k\]: thanks
]
;B[in]C[Zahlman [4k\]: oh, that's difficult :s
]
;W[mr]
;B[ns]
;W[qs]
;B[rs]
;W[ms]
;B[qs]
;W[mo]
;B[ln]
;W[lp]C[Zahlman [4k\]: nice 
])
(;B[lk]
;W[pk]C[Russianlll [7k\]: 9.30pm here in Malaysia
]))
(;W[qo]
;B[so]C[Sates [14k\]: thanks
]
;W[rp]
;B[sp]
;W[oo]
;B[rp]C[Oame [-\]: who is black?
]
;W[sn]
;B[sr]C[simpkin [11k\]: Bei Ge
])
(;W[ip]
;B[ho]
;W[pl]
;B[lk]
;W[pk])
(;W[ln]C[Djey [15k\]: I can't hear what she say, please can somebody write?
]
(;B[mo]
;W[mm])
(;B[lm]
;W[kn]
;B[mo]
(;W[ho]
;B[ip]
;W[in])
(;W[nl]C[KakureKage [17k\]: listen better then!!!
]
;B[nk]
;W[nm]
;B[mm]
;W[mk]C[Ender [10k\]: try to leave and rejoin
KakureKage [17k\]: shes fun ^^
]))))
(;W[or]C[Ordiac [4k\]: ? just p2?
KakureKage [17k\]: guojuan say something funny for me please =D
Zahlman [4k\]: what if p9 at o9 instead?
]))
(;B[oq]C[Ordiac [4k\]: those 3 looks like strong moves
]
;W[or]
;B[ps]
;W[nq]
;B[os]
;W[oq]C[rayen [2k\]: w wants to kill 
]
;B[so]C[rayen [2k\]: no the other group
]
;W[pl]
;B[pk]
;W[nl]
;B[nk]
;W[mk])
(;B[rl]C[Ordiac [4k\]: maybe L17 time ?
simpkin [11k\]: KakureKage - yes - lunch in 15 minutes
])
(;B[rm]C[Zahlman [4k\]: hmm... how about j2, sacrifice g6 tail and try to kill n3
])
(;B[]
;W[pl]
(;B[ol]C[Dita [2k\]: oke
]
;W[pk]C[hirurg [9k\]: black T4 , white R5, black  T2?
]
;B[oj]
;W[nm]C[Zahlman [4k\]: squeeze
KoReNJe [?\]: but does b need to respond to W's Q8 with Q9?
])
(;B[pk]
;W[nl]
;B[nk]
;W[mk]C[Dita [2k\]: so should black protect cut?
Ordiac [4k\]: this look very strong 
Dita [2k\]: or is corner more importand?
])))
(;W[nq]C[koroshiya [4k\]: n3
Osirius [-\]: A19
Hilarius [4k\]: n3 would be my choise too
]
;B[]
;W[pl]
;B[pk]
;W[nl]
;B[nk]
;W[mk]))
(;W[qo]C[Buckley [5k?\]: sente
simpkin [11k\]: Macfadyen is White
Zahlman [4k\]: w
ofap [7k\]: MacFadyen W
]
;B[rp]
;W[nn]
;B[nr]
;W[mq]
;B[oq]
;W[or]
;B[ps]
;W[nq]
;B[os]
;W[oq]
;B[rl]
;W[so]
;B[sp]C[Robinsa [18k\]: What about t 2?
]
;W[qs]
;B[rs]
;W[sr]
;B[sn]
;W[sm]
;B[rm]
;W[so]C[Sates [14k\]: I'm sure this has already been asked but which stones does MacFadyen have?
]))
(;B[qs]C[Dita [2k\]: if R1 dies?
]
;W[sr]C[KoReNJe [?\]: dead
]
;B[rr]C[Ordiac [4k\]: dead
simpkin [11k\]: eww
Kerochan [4k\]: 1 eye
simpkin [11k\]: it just happens to be dead
]
;W[qo]C[SNam [6k\]: T5
]
;B[rp]C[Javaness [2k\]: tesuji
]
(;W[so]
;B[ss]
;W[rs]C[miktex [?\]: 涨牯牛
]
;B[sq])
(;W[ss]
;B[so]C[rayen [2k\]: but reduced alot though
]
;W[sq]C[KoReNJe [?\]: oh
KoReNJe [?\]: seki :p
miyuu [1d\]: dead 4
rayen [2k\]: seki later
Nishry [2k\]: bent 4
Ordiac [4k\]: bent 4 in corner
tmc [-\]: bent 4
koroshiya [4k\]: hmm that one's dead
Javaness [2k\]: black can cut maybe
rayen [2k\]: ah
miyuu [1d\]: but Q5?
Ordiac [4k\]: dead by japanese rules if live outside
]
;B[po]C[rayen [2k\]: bent four yes
]
;W[pn]
;B[oo]C[hirurg [9k\]: bent four in corner
simpkin [11k\]: no, Ordiac - it's not strictly in the rules any more
]
;W[no]
;B[nn]))
(;B[rr]
;W[qo]C[rayen [2k\]: if w protect p5  isnt m5  in danger ?
]
;B[rp]
;W[qs]
;B[rs]
;W[so]
;B[sp]
;W[sr]
;B[po]
;W[pn]
;B[oo]
;W[no]
;B[nn]C[rayen [2k\]: guojuan .. if w protect other side
simpkin [11k\]: ooh
rayen [2k\]: isnt m5  killable ?
]
(;W[ps]
;B[oq])
(;W[nr]
;B[sn]
;W[sm]
;B[rm]
;W[so]
;B[sl]
;W[sn]
;B[om])))
(;B[rn]
;W[qm]C[Hilarius [4k\]: they played strange :o
]))
(;W[mk]
;B[nl]
;W[oi]
;B[qk]C[cadoudal [3d\]: then n15 ?
]
;W[me]
;B[md]
;W[nd])
(;W[nm]C[Dita [2k\]: lol
Ernesto [?\]: hehehehe
Dust [2d\]: matthew is thecaptain?
miyuu [1d\]: I think mathew stronger then cappy :O
rayen [2k\]: what about  q5  first
rayen [2k\]: and then peep
Javaness [2k\]: since 78?
Dita [2k\]: nice
Dita [2k\]: he's old :3
KoReNJe [?\]: so basically response to W N9 cold be O9 instead O8 :p
]
;B[mm]C[Robinsa [18k\]: ah ok
]
;W[nl]
;B[nk]
;W[mk]
;B[nn]
;W[om]
;B[oo]))
(;B[lk]))
(;W[]
(;B[li]C[Baudzo [8k\]: m11 
])
(;B[kh]
;W[lj]C[rayen [2k\]: ah I see
])))
(;W[kg]LB[cg:A][di:1][ji:2][kl:E][fm:B][jm:D][fo:C]TR[kf][mn]C[rayen [2k\]: seems a little passiv 
Hilarius [4k\]: :D
Goleath [4k\]: who is macf playing btw?
Javaness [2k\]: too painful
Javaness [2k\]: yes
Hilarius [4k\]: yes
sunra [9k\]: yeah
Ordiac [4k\]: yep thx
sunra [9k\]: thx
DrOlczyk [9k\]: yes
Javaness [2k\]: we have to look at the wholeboard
Djey [15k\]: Can anyone write what she said please
Javaness [2k\]: White played a slow move at A
koroshiya [4k\]: a lot of info coming fast
Javaness [2k\]: B was poor, but black did not take advantage of it
Baudzo [8k\]: "He who wishes to fight must first count the cost" - Ts'ao Kung
Javaness [2k\]: yes
Tearsmay [4d\]: yes
rayen [2k\]: b still got ko to kill some stones I think
simpkin [11k\]: yes, thank you
koroshiya [4k\]: basically, A B C were white mistakes, but after D got exchanged with E the game had become better for w
Robinsa [18k\]: very
sunra [9k\]: yup
tenchu21 [23k?\]: 9:30 on the eastcost usa
]
(;B[]
(;W[ke]C[emk [3k\]: like a young player ^^
])
(;W[me]C[rayen [2k\]: Bei Ge 5d
]
;B[md]
;W[lf]
;B[ke]
;W[nd]C[rayen [2k\]: second game of British title
rayen [2k\]: out of 5
Ordiac [4k\]: hmm
]
;B[ne]
;W[mf]
;B[mc]C[Goleath [4k\]: ahh ok
rayen [2k\]: Bei Ge won first
]
;W[nc]
;B[oe]
;W[ld]
;B[nb]
;W[kd]
;B[lb]))
(;B[ne]))
(;W[ml]
;B[on]
;W[ol]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: fight fight fight~~~
]))
(;B[jl]
;W[jk]
;B[kk]C[digikid [10k\]: 17? XD
mozai [2k\]: u hungry guojuan 
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: so white play at M13
Ordiac [4k\]: lol weird brits 
KoReNJe [?\]: omg live review :D
zengcheng [2d\]: which move is better,I mean M13 N8
gr00by [7k\]: now is 11 AM in UK
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: to prevent this cut
Russianlll [7k\]: me too
rayen [2k\]: no
Robinsa [18k\]: gr00by no
rayen [2k\]: net
koroshiya [4k\]: short ladder now
digikid [10k\]: the voice is cut?
Robinsa [18k\]: it's 12.04
rayen [2k\]: m9 
]
;W[lk]
;B[kj]
;W[lj]C[digikid [10k\]: Lol
]
;B[ki]
;W[kh]
;B[li]C[gr00by [7k\]: summer time ? 
]
;W[mi]C[rayen [2k\]: yes
gr00by [7k\]: sorry
m0rZniNg [15k\]: what does 5 p mean ?
zengcheng [2d\]: N8 also can prevent Ws cut
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this is lost ladder
])
(;B[kh])
(;B[lf]
;W[mg]
;B[mf]
;W[ng]
;B[ld]C[Ordiac [4k\]: this destroy all b moyo on right ?
HeavenGo [2k\]: why not p6?
]
(;W[ml])
(;W[on]))
(;B[li]C[Buckley [5k?\]: can white killj13 group?
bassanio [1k?\]: l12
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: :o
]
;W[kh]C[Ordiac [4k\]: i dont like m11 :(
]
(;B[]
;W[lf]C[bassanio [1k?\]: what if black l12?
]
;B[ke]
;W[md]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: 
])
(;B[jl]
;W[jk]
;B[kk]
;W[lk]
;B[kj]
;W[lj]
;B[ki]
;W[mi]C[cadoudal [3d\]: ok
])))
(;W[ml]
;B[on]
;W[ol]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: Goto off good nite
digikid [10k\]: Hello xin wen
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: 
]))
(;B[mn]C[F22A [2k\]: thx
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: exchange A to B
]
;W[ml]
;B[on]
;W[ol]TR[ml][ol][mn][on]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: there is no cut
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: very bad for black
miktex [?\]: I like the commentary by Wang Yuan
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black has to escape in N6 and P6
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: since they dunt make any territories
rlee [1d\]: w h2 to prevent b g3?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: bad for white
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: no
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: bad for black
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white stones are outside
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black inside
])
(;B[gq]C[Omnivori [1k?\]: before
rlee [1d\]: not now
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: attack here?
]
;W[dp]
;B[cq]C[Omnivori [1k?\]: after j4 variation
blbn [1d\]: cut g3 with b j2 ?
rlee [1d\]: after j4
Robinsa [18k\]: why not j4 by white?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this one...
]
;W[gr]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white just take the stone
]))
(;W[ip]
;B[ho]
;W[ir]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: not possible
F22A [2k\]: is this a tourney game?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I would not play like this
]
;B[jl]
;W[jk]
;B[kk]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: there is no cut there
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: it is alright for white
]
;W[li]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: when black play here
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white get escape is alright
])
(;W[ho]
;B[ip]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: no
]
;W[in]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white having here
]
;B[hn]C[HikaShin [6d\]: no
Modomannen [4k\]: nah
]
;W[io]
;B[im]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: is it possible?
]))
(;W[hq]C[rayen [2k\]: alot of pts
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: we should not forget
gr00by [7k\]: ladder 5d 6d
]
;B[iq]C[simpkin [11k\]: Rikku - Black is 5dan, White is 6dan, UK grades
]
;W[ip]
;B[ho]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: there still ko at E7
]
;W[ir]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if black play here
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: connect like this
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white can play outside at O7
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black atari
]
(;B[io]C[RikkuKun [14k\]: ok thanks
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white should not forget there is attackign here
]
;W[nm]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white should not answer
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: so what should white do?
rayen [2k\]: no
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: eh?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: play here?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: O7?
rayen [2k\]: j3 last move
]
;B[jp]
;W[gr])
(;B[jl]
;W[jk]
;B[kk]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: still no cut here
ori350 [19k\]: k6 
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I dunt think so white can get the escape
]
;W[li]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: sign
]
;B[lk]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white escape
]
;W[ml]
;B[]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black escape
]
;W[jn]
;B[im]
;W[in]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white escape
]
;B[hm]
;W[io]C[Ordiac [4k\]: ladida
]))
(;W[mn]
;B[hq]LB[em:A]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: c11 will be good mvoe for black
]))
(;W[kl]C[rayen [2k\]: he is afraid of cut ?
Podjeved [-\]: defend cut?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black will have territories problem
Dita [2k\]: K7 help w
koroshiya [4k\]: then K7 becomes aji keshi
georgina: no
Luanda [12k\]: maybe...
rayen [2k\]: I think its to protect cut
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I dunt see anything here
Javaness [2k\]: i don't see anything
rlee [1d\]: maybe b was afraid of h5 ?
blbn [1d\]: b cuts!
Luanda [12k\]: *maybr
]
(;B[jl]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: do you see anything?
tmc [-\]: what if B j10 ?
]
;W[jk]
;B[kk]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: no?
]
;W[jn]
;B[im]
;W[hm]
;B[in]
;W[hn]
;B[io]
;W[ho]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if like this
digikid [10k\]: YAY!!
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: there is a cut
HikaShin [6d\]: 幫白走棋
])
(;B[hp]
;W[hq]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: but white just drive out this way
Luanda [12k\]: black could make f8  and then let white make a decision between e7  or f10 
])
(;B[ij]C[tmc [-\]: yes
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this one..
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Yes
]
;W[jj]C[blbn [1d\]: nop good for w
]
;B[jk]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: cut this way?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: possible
tflynch [11k\]: no
Ernesto: why are you repeating her?
]
;W[gj]
;B[gk]
;W[kk]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: but I dunt really like this one
]
;B[jl]C[Dita [2k\]: lol
]
;W[jn]
;B[im]
;W[in]
;B[hm]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I must say
]
;W[kn]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: for example
]
;B[il]C[EdmundSS [?\]: Ernesto: not everyone has audio
Faab [7k\]: for later review...
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this one is without fight
])))
(;B[kk]C[Ernesto: can W make center group stronger by attacking the j13 group?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: immediately attack this way
Luanda [12k\]: ach ___
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: cut make white stronge
digikid [10k\]: maybe*
digikid [10k\]: ^^
DrOlczyk [9k\]: How about J10?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: the basic shape is this one
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: alright?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black attack white in the center
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I dunt see anything here for white
]
;W[in]C[rayen [2k\]: is he afraid of w h5 ?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: the shape should be here like this
]
;B[io]
;W[jk]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white got to defence here
]
;B[lm]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black can block here
chochopper [6k\]: may be to prevent white h5?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I would choose L9
]))
(;B[ko]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: he did this
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I believe he was thinking about K7
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white still not happy
Codora [10k\]: who won the game?
EdmundSS [?\]: Game is live
gr00by [7k\]: yes
koroshiya [4k\]: bei won the first game
Javaness [2k\]: ok
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: ok
chochopper [6k\]: black is easier to play
zengcheng [2d\]: W
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: count point now
blueshoe [3k\]: yes count!
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: first you count
rayen [2k\]: w around 30ish
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: then I count with you
zengcheng [2d\]: W is better I guess
koroshiya [4k\]: isn't the left side w still unsettled?
simpkin [11k\]: W has more territory but B more influence on the right?
Baudzo [8k\]: w is ahead
rayen [2k\]: w ahead
bigfatcat [3k\]: yes
DrOlczyk [9k\]: W 40.5
Javaness [2k\]: i think white has 35 black 30
simpkin [11k\]: koroshiya - I think Guo said W was alive on the left
Russianlll [7k\]: 40 tops for W
tmc [-\]: I get 20 points each 
RVREY [7k\]: not so much lol
rayen [2k\]: w 30ish .. b 20ish
vanes [1d\]: 29 each
EdmundSS [?\]: W=34, B=28? but black has more potential
rayen [2k\]: in form of solid pts
gr00by [7k\]: w 26, b 22
playmore [3d\]: 40 white, 30+ black 
Ernesto: w=50 b=45?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: take a Q10 everything will change
DrOlczyk [9k\]: B 24
Hayasake [8k\]: w32 b 26
vanes [1d\]: I count 10 points for upper right corner stone....
tmc [-\]: lots of different answers
gr00by [7k\]: w 36 sorry
Russianlll [7k\]: black has so many treatening and harassment moves
Dita [2k\]: b 35 w 30
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Edmund did you include komi?
gr00by [7k\]: abot 10 pts ahead
Ernesto: W better
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I dunno how to count to be honest
EdmundSS [?\]: no
bigfatcat [3k\]: ah komi
digikid [10k\]: Me too, don't know how to count
bouboubou [3k\]: W j5 no?
TotoroShan [5k\]: b 30, W 40
l01 [9k\]: white 65,black57
rayen [2k\]: lol
RVREY [7k\]: can u show maner to count ?? 
DrOlczyk [9k\]: What is komi 6.5?
Shinichi [1k\]: how can u count
bouboubou [3k\]: yes
Buckley [5k?\]: its jigo now
Shinichi [1k\]: i wonder 
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: not much place live
bigfatcat [3k\]: jigo+-5 i would say
blbn [1d\]: b was too slow
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: L9 is weakness for white
rayen [2k\]: b got alot more potential then w
RVREY [7k\]: K9 weak
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: hihi
digikid [10k\]: He;;p
digikid [10k\]: Hello
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: how many points does black have?
DrOlczyk [9k\]: 24
rayen [2k\]: around 15 ?
vanes [1d\]: 17
Russianlll [7k\]: 22
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: at lower left?
gr00by [7k\]: 20
blbn [1d\]: 20
Modomannen [4k\]: 2+
laurents [4k\]: 23
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Sorry 22.
bcss [9k\]: 24
tibul [12k\]: 22
l01 [9k\]: 23
Modomannen [4k\]: 20
rlee [1d\]: 20
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: about 20
]
;W[dp]
;B[cq]C[digikid [10k\]: 19?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: little bit less than 20
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: so this is the basic territorise
gr00by [7k\]: 18
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: the lower right
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: 25?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: and empty corner
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: 30 pts?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white upper left
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: less than 20
mamolo [6k\]: about 20
RikkuKun [14k\]: 12?
Javaness [2k\]: 17
digikid [10k\]: 17?
Hilarius [4k\]: 25
simpkin [11k\]: very precise, Java !
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: and lower right
Russianlll [7k\]: 23
Angrolfin [13k\]: is this game being played now?
tibul [12k\]: 20
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: 10 pts?
simpkin [11k\]: Angrolfin - yes
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white as less than 30
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: right?
RVREY [7k\]: can u show on board with XXX and OOO
]
;W[]C[lemondrink [4k\]: lower w only  10p?
]
;B[kk]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: and white still have weak
rayen [2k\]: heavy 
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black has such attack
])
(;B[jm]
;W[jl]
;B[lm]))
(;W[gp]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black jump out
])
(;W[lp]
;B[gp]C[bcss [9k\]: n6
]
;W[cj]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I would not answer at M4
]
;B[mn])
(;W[kp]
;B[ko]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I will see what they do
Ordiac [4k\]: nah
]))
(;W[]
(;B[ij]
;W[jj]
;B[jk])
(;B[kl]C[whendrik [6k\]: e3 ?
bouboubou [3k\]: or m5 
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I think he is worry about this move at L8
]))
(;W[gp]LB[ho:2][io:1]TR[gl][gm][gn][go][jo]C[bouboubou [3k\]: yes
rayen [2k\]: ^^
bouboubou [3k\]: i win
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: is this one
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: yes
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I win
chochopper [6k\]: yes
digikid [10k\]: I see...
chochopper [6k\]: haha
digikid [10k\]: you won lol
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black has 2 space jump
simpkin [11k\]: the shape move is g4, so Matthew goes for something quite different 
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: in between
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: you see this black shape is horrible
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if black doesnt play
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white has facture move
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: g4 is the move
bouboubou [3k\]: lol
Ordiac [4k\]: thx ill remember
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: yes?
]
(;B[hp]
;W[hq]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: g4 is the shape
]
;B[ip]
;W[iq]
;B[]
;W[in]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: of black play like this
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: next
]
;B[io]C[karmaGfa [3k\]: ^_^
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white has this move
])
(;B[]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: the shape
]
;W[ho]))
(;W[dp]
;B[cq]
;W[gp]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: of course we can first play at c3
digikid [10k\]: isee...
bcss [9k\]: white g4 then black escapes k6
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white has little air now
digikid [10k\]: thanks
bcss [9k\]: white is trying to kill
]))
(;B[gp]LB[em:A]TR[gn][fo][go][fp][gp]C[l01 [9k\]: whatever the result of the killing is, take attack is always benefit for white. so block black's connection is fine for whitei think?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: that is the difference
HikaShin [6d\]: sorry who is black and white
bouboubou [3k\]: .......
Ordiac [4k\]: can b tenuki d4 ?
HikaShin [6d\]: matthew white?
bcss [9k\]: white is matthew
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: yup
simpkin [11k\]: Black is Bei Ge, 5d; White is matthew Macfadyen
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white has few stones
rayen [2k\]: f4 is the latest move I think
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: they are inside
bigfatcat [3k\]: 250+ spectators
digikid [10k\]: no audio?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: it is good for black here
bcss [9k\]: but can't he maybe kill the black stones?
Naksu [19k\]: There is audio
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black can cut at A
I982 [7k\]: why don't we need to worry G9 group eyes yet
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: yes?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: 
chochopper [6k\]: white should hav just c10 in the beginin
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white not gaining anything
Zansatsu [5d\]: lol
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: :o
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I dunt like white situation
Luanda [12k\]: so c10 would have been much better ?
rayen [2k\]: w cant settle group and ko at same time :(
Ordiac [4k\]: yep
Tearsmay [4d\]: byan, are you translating english to english?
bcss [9k\]: can white maybe kill black with f3 though?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: oh~ lunch~
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: yes
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: bye~
MermeladeK [1k\]: XD
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: in case some one dunt have speaker
mamolo [6k\]: isn´t f3 too big for black now?
GralAnibal [6k?\]: my client says "no audio"
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: we need strong base to fight
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if we dunt have solid shape
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this fighting will be difficult
MermeladeK [1k\]: actually it's good byan does it
Zansatsu [5d\]: how much they had time in beginning?
MermeladeK [1k\]: cuz i dont wanna anoy my parents
blakki [4k?\]: 3 hours each
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: first make a solid shape
rayen [2k\]: 3 hours I think
simpkin [11k\]: It's a 3-hour time limit game
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this is my advice
Ordiac [4k\]: hehehe i asked about L5 
digikid [10k\]: White?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: so if actually black I wouldnt jump at L5
]
(;W[dp]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black should get go down here
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if whtie place here
Ordiac [4k\]: c3 ?
rayen [2k\]: c3 ?
chochopper [6k\]: c3
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: F3?
Javaness [2k\]: C3
blbn [1d\]: c3
digikid [10k\]: no audio?
bouboubou [3k\]: c3 ???
Podjeved [-\]: very good digikid
bouboubou [3k\]: crazy no?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: wait a min!!!
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white should black place?
Doneagle [14k\]: E3
Ordiac [4k\]: hmm so i guess c3 is bad
bouboubou [3k\]: yes
bouboubou [3k\]: i guess too
Ordiac [4k\]: L5 maybe 
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: anyone have something rather than C3?
Zansatsu [5d\]: lol
rayen [2k\]: c4  is worse than c3
rayen [2k\]: giving w  free followup
blbn [1d\]: f3 better
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I would go F3
Zansatsu [5d\]: haha
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: as mention earliery
rayen [2k\]: f3 ???
GralAnibal [6k?\]: audio is gone? 
theoff [5k?\]: F3  is nice
EdmundSS [?\]: Guo Juan has taken a short break
Ordiac [4k\]: hi
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: yes
simpkin [11k\]: looking at his rating, Bei is going to be a bit short of the grade required for promotion even if he wins the Championship; he needs to play a few more tournaments yet
mamolo [6k\]: and what about crazy g3 ?
]
(;B[cq]C[bouboubou [3k\]: hello
Zansatsu [5d\]: audio is back
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: welcome back~
digikid [10k\]: Hey ^^
rayen [2k\]: 
GralAnibal [6k?\]: ok, thanks
chochopper [6k\]: c3 is a must
Ordiac [4k\]: wow 
bcss [9k\]: hello
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: c3 would be the move
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: when white go E3
mamolo [6k\]: g3 I mean for white
]
;W[eq]
;B[gq])
(;B[cp]
;W[eq]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: black can go G3
bcss [9k\]: don't you think white will play f3
Ordiac [4k\]: but not tenuki ?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: you see the difference?
Russianlll [7k\]: yes
GralAnibal [6k?\]: wow, so much lag
digikid [10k\]: Hmm..
Ordiac [4k\]: maybe L5 ?
]))
(;W[jo])))
(;B[em])
(;B[go]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: immediate fight seems not stand on the strong ground yet
]))
(;W[cj]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: if white block here to leave
]
(;B[eo]
;W[fo])
(;B[gp]
;W[fo]
;B[go]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: it is possible for black to block white
]
;W[eq])
(;B[fo]
;W[eo]
;B[fp]C[Javaness [2k\]: G6 looks in danger now
]
;W[eq])))
(;W[el]
(;B[dn]C[ScudRunner [11k\]: why does black not play C10?
]
;W[en]C[Ordiac [4k\]: lol @ macnala 
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: fast and slow moves~
zengcheng [2d\]: bad shape
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white can also play like this
GralAnibal [6k?\]: look for go terms here>>>http://senseis.xmp.net/
]
;B[em]
(;W[cj]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this is not neccessary
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: :P
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white was atari
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white block here
])
(;W[eo]C[Zansatsu [5d\]: what is this game?
simpkin [11k\]: MacN - http://senseis.xmp.net/?Fast; http://senseis.xmp.net/?Slow
]))
(;B[dp]
;W[dn]
;B[cn]
;W[fn]C[simpkin [11k\]: Zansatsu - this is the second game in the British Championship Title Match
Zansatsu [5d\]: ok
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I whould just play like this
]
;B[go]C[Zansatsu [5d\]: thanks
Zansatsu [5d\]: who are playing?
Zansatsu [5d\]: and who won the first game 
bouboubou [3k\]: ...
simpkin [11k\]: Black is Bei Ge, 5d, and he won the first game; white is Matthew Macfadyen, 7d
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: after all white has to get back to c10 anyway
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: so it is no good to extend
chochopper [6k\]: wow!
Javaness [2k\]: he won maybe 21 times
Zansatsu [5d\]: macfayden has won british championships 21 times? or was it 24 times?
simpkin [11k\]: Matthew's been champion 21 times i the last 30 years
Zansatsu [5d\]: oh
digikid [10k\]: REALLY?
digikid [10k\]: 21 times???
simpkin [11k\]: yes
Zansatsu [5d\]: hmm
digikid [10k\]: 1990?? o.o;;
simpkin [11k\]: he says he's aiming for 30 wins by his 60th birthday, I think
Jadeite [8k?\]: doctor in London
Kilik [4k\]: sankukai
Javaness [2k\]: http://www.britgo.org/bchamp/history.html
chochopper [6k\]: i wonder matthew vs leechang hao who will win
Zansatsu [5d\]: once?
Javaness [2k\]: maybe 3 times he won it
Robocop [9k\]: heh I once played Matthew at his house in Warrwickshire.  He gave me 9 stones and beat me by over 200 points.
digikid [10k\]: REALLY? WOW
Zansatsu [5d\]: and how many times you have won 
bouboubou [3k\]: leechang ho will win by res ^^
chochopper [6k\]: wow
Ordiac [4k\]: sry guo is this now the board position ?
Javaness [2k\]: she is shodan
])))
(;B[dp]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white looks weaker and weaker
Zansatsu [5d\]: is this what happened in real game?
simpkin [11k\]: yes, c6 is the real game, Zansatsu
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: c6 is inside
digikid [10k\]: This is just Guo's comment?
Kilik [4k\]: yes
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: D4 is outside
Ordiac [4k\]: thx great tip
bouboubou [3k\]: yeah
Russianlll [7k\]: yes
blbn [1d\]: yes clear
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: so prefer D4
]
;W[cn]
;B[bn]
;W[dn]
;B[bp]C[simpkin [11k\]: mmm
chochopper [6k\]: yea d4 look great!
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this is more difficult for white to get out here
]
;W[fo]
;B[fn]
;W[en]
;B[go]
;W[fp]
;B[gp]
;W[fq]
;B[gq]C[digikid [10k\]: I think black is the one who gets stronger
rayen [2k\]: should just settle :S
]))
(;W[cj]))
(;W[cj]C[koroshiya [4k\]: plus byo yomi after that
Javaness [2k\]: lunch is very important in England
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Japanese major titles are two days. 8 hrs each.
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: I dunt think is a good idea to make black stronger
Ordiac [4k\]: c10 looks good honte ?
Russianlll [7k\]: black having a joyride
blueshoe [3k\]: sometimes c10 would seem too heavy
Ordiac [4k\]: huge
]
;B[dn]
;W[md]C[Zansatsu [5d\]: i wonder how did this fight begin...
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: white can block at c10 and leave
]))
(;B[cm]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: big improvement 
]
;W[cj]C[Deepflow [2k\]: me too!
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: i gained nothing~ im still unstable~
Zahlman [4k\]: I agree spacemen 
]))
(;W[cj]C[Javaness [2k\]: yes wms added many features
yaniro [12k\]: how many time the players have ?
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: destroy white shape
]))
(;B[cj]C[Russianlll [7k\]: thanks
Javaness [2k\]: White Matthew Macfadyen 6d
Javaness [2k\]: yes the British Championship is played in the UK
Jadeite [8k?\]: really? :p
bouboubou [3k\]: lol$
Nyanjilla [-\]: wow
Ordiac [4k\]: this is the position ?
tflynch [11k\]: surely not ...
Lcjs [8k\]: Milton Keynes, apparently
simpkin [11k\]: this game's at Milton Keynes, yes
digikid [10k\]: Just spelled my name,GJ?
tmc [-\]: good morning
Tearsmay [4d\]: good morning !
blueshoe [3k\]: hello!
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]:  youtoo~
Javaness [2k\]: hi
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: hi TearsMay~
EdmundSS [?\]: yes
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: yup~
Russianlll [7k\]: yes
Kilik [4k\]: yes
digikid [10k\]: Yes
Baudzo [8k\]: good morning
bcss [9k\]: good morning
hedkandi05 [13k\]: mmmhm
tal1991 [11k\]: yes
Hiul [9k\]: hello
simpkin [11k\]: um, BGA Admin appears to have fallen off, however
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: hi~
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: morning
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: yes
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: hihi
blakki [4k?\]: hi
yhtut [11k\]: yes
yhtut [11k\]: hi
SevTheSev [16k?\]: yes
tal1991 [11k\]: hai hai
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Yes
Javaness [2k\]: bgaadmin must have lost his connection
zengcheng [2d\]: sure
blaha [7k\]: yes!
Ordiac [4k\]: i dunno why , but i like w here 
Javaness [2k\]: he is back now
]
;W[dm]C[dima30k [6k\]: ok
tmc [-\]: painful for who?
]
;B[cn]C[Russianlll [7k\]: who's black?
]
;W[fm]
;B[gm]
;W[fn]
;B[gn]C[bouboubou [3k\]: xD
])
(;B[ci]C[digikid [10k\]: I see...
emk [3k\]: and bugs 
simpkin [11k\]: they're not bugs, they're features too
Spacemen3 [4d\]: can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs 
digikid [10k\]: Lol
Xanthus [3d?\]: yes 
rayen [2k\]: I got 1 month free 
ScudRunner [11k\]: will this game be hosted with the commentary after it is finished?
rayen [2k\]: ^^
Xanthus [3d?\]: hehe
Ordiac [4k\]: 
digikid [10k\]: Really?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: lol~
Javaness [2k\]: lol
digikid [10k\]: Lol
bouboubou [3k\]: lol
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: lol
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: 
bouboubou [3k\]: xD
]
(;W[cj]
;B[bj]
;W[dj]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: pro?
]
;B[bi]C[bouboubou [3k\]: no
simpkin [11k\]: no
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: oh~
])
(;W[dh]C[digikid [10k\]: Where's it played, UK?
]
;B[gn])
(;W[ch]
;B[cj]C[rayen [2k\]: yes
Amateur [10k?\]: yes
])))
(;W[]C[DrOlczyk [9k\]: rayen heavy where?
bouboubou [3k\]: lol
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: ok ~
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: ok
Buckley [5k?\]: how old are players?
]
(;B[ij]
;W[jj]C[rayen [2k\]: I missreaded -_-
]
;B[jk]
;W[kk])
(;B[oo]
;W[no]
;B[on]
(;W[nn]
;B[om])
(;W[qj]
;B[nn]))
(;B[lo]
;W[lp]
;B[ij]
;W[jj]
;B[jk]))
(;W[cj]C[digikid [10k\]: 2 hours?
neurotik [8k\]: all the times.
]
(;B[ej])
(;B[gn]
;W[ek]C[yaniro [12k\]: no clock ?
EdmundSS [?\]: Players ahev 3 hours each.
EdmundSS [?\]: have
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: this is good for white
yaniro [12k\]: thx
digikid [10k\]: Oh
Melancolie [2k\]: what would be white's answer to black tsuke at c11 to escape?
digikid [10k\]: 180:60=3
EdmundSS [?\]: Game has been going 1 hour
digikid [10k\]: 2 more hours...
simpkin [11k\]: no
])))
(;B[fk]))
(;W[cj]
(;B[jk]
;W[li]
;B[lk]
;W[ni])
(;B[ik]
;W[li]
;B[kk]
;W[ni])))
(;B[dl]C[bigfatcat [3k\]: in audio
bouboubou [3k\]: well well well ^^ xD
Javaness [2k\]: but Bei Ge also likes fighting 
]
(;W[el]C[KakureKage [17k\]: err
simpkin [11k\]: in a double-blind test, 0/1 commentators can tell their lunatic styles apart 
]
;B[dm]C[digikid [10k\]: Maybe your connection is having a trouble..
]
;W[jk]C[Javaness [2k\]: ok
KakureKage [17k\]: nah it works people =D
bouboubou [3k\]: yes
Ordiac [4k\]: hmm
])
(;W[cl]C[hedkandi05 [13k\]: is this a leaning attack?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: no~
rayen [2k\]: Bei Ge is b 
Javaness [2k\]: matthew is white
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: oh~ you mean w is leaning~?
Zahlman [4k\]: b c8 just wants to avoid complication I think
bcss [9k\]: mathew is white
hedkandi05 [13k\]: yes
emk [3k\]: 
YogSothoth [3k\]: Matthew is white
FatJoe [-\]: matthew is WHITE!
FatJoe [-\]: :\]
bouboubou [3k\]: xD
hedkandi05 [13k\]: nodnod thank you >koroshiya
v0ndutch: lol
rayen [2k\]: 
]
;B[cm]
;W[bl]C[bouboubou [3k\]: but you too ^^
]
;B[ek]
;W[dj]
;B[el]
;W[bk]C[koroshiya [4k\]: not really a leaning attack, more like special measures to make live shape
]
;B[jk]C[derPlumps [12k?\]: hi Anik
])))
(;W[fk]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: haha not on the level
playmore [3d\]: how does white continue after black F9?
Lcjs [8k\]: oh.
KakureKage [17k\]: ah i see
]
;B[ik]LB[cm:A]C[GoKlaus [?\]: it helps me a lot
KakureKage [17k\]: oh no it works
KakureKage [17k\]: i had sound of
]))
(;B[fk]C[simpkin [11k\]: I've heard at least 3 pronounciations of his name
pc [1k\]: it meansd little piece of bacon he told me
bouboubou [3k\]: ^^
Lcjs [8k\]: hold on.... i think i;ve been had
EdmundSS [?\]: No, this is commentary on a live game
KakureKage [17k\]: she isnt giving any coments XD
]
(;W[kf]C[Lcjs [8k\]: ah, was this the uk final?
])
(;W[gf]
;B[ge]
;W[kf]
;B[kg]
;W[jf]
(;B[hg]C[Lcjs [8k\]: who actually won? *spoiler alert*
])
(;B[if]C[simpkin [11k\]: lcjs - this is live
])))
(;B[gk]C[digikid [10k\]: Who do you think will win, black or white, Guo Juan??
]))
(;W[jd]
;B[fk]C[rayen [2k\]: seems hard for w now
blueshoe [3k\]: its those d11  and c13 bad stones now in trouble!
])
(;W[fk]C[Jacks [16k\]: yes
Jacks [16k\]: it is hard
digikid [10k\]: Think soo...
Javaness [2k\]: H17
]
;B[jd]))
(;W[dk]C[Nezrif [6k\]: ?
deviant [2d?\]: the ladder wasn't even necessary
bouboubou [3k\]: W
]
(;B[dl]
(;W[ek]
;B[cj]
;W[ci]
(;B[gk])
(;B[hl]C[Nezrif [6k\]: what about E8 for white?
]))
(;W[cj]C[Kilik [4k\]: we considered E9 for w also
digikid [10k\]: This shape looks better...
]
(;B[ek]
;W[bk]
;B[dj]C[ByanGwok02 [7k\]: b11
dordor [11k\]: e10 
tmc [-\]: e10
]
;W[ej]C[Jacks [16k\]: B11
Jacks [16k\]: afteer
]
;B[dk]
;W[bi]
;B[bl]C[Jacks [16k\]: B11
]
;W[al]
;B[am]
;W[ak]
;B[bm]
;W[fk])
(;B[cl]
;W[ek])))
(;B[cj]
;W[ci]
;B[dl]
;W[fk])
(;B[cl]
;W[cj]LB[hg:A]C[bouboubou [3k\]: 5 and 6 years old xD
simpkin [11k\]: strange question, Buckley
dima30k [6k\]: is b11 possible?
simpkin [11k\]: Matthew's about 52, IIRC - I think Bei's younger but frankly I'm crap at judging ages
]))
(;W[fk]C[crazyfish [18k\]: b is not alive either
rayen [2k\]: d7 ?
laurents [4k\]: D9
koroshiya [4k\]: D9
digikid [10k\]: E10?
Papagenosa [?\]: D9
crazyfish [18k\]: f13
emk [3k\]: d8?
Idn [2k\]: d8 
laurents [4k\]: D9
tal1991 [11k\]: e10 
Nezrif [6k\]: D8
Seikenn [-\]: e10
]
;B[dl]LB[ej:A]C[rayen [2k\]: ah
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: a weak spot~
]
;W[]C[Papagenosa [?\]: ok
]
;B[ej]
;W[ei]
;B[fj]
;W[gj]
;B[gi]
;W[dj]
;B[ek]
;W[dk]
;B[el]
;W[cl]C[sheva [23k?\]: hm
sheva [23k?\]: ladder
bouboubou [3k\]: c7 
rayen [2k\]: c7 
digikid [10k\]: B9?
]
;B[cm]C[Nezrif [6k\]: B8
]
;W[bl]C[rayen [2k\]: b9 
rlee [1d\]: c7 b8 b9 b7 
Pingu007 [2d\]: c7 then b9?
tudorus [2d\]: b9 b7 b6 d7 e7 
bouboubou [3k\]: b7
sheva [23k?\]: b9
]
;B[bk]
;W[bm]C[sheva [23k?\]: ladder
]
;B[bn]C[digikid [10k\]: B7
Nezrif [6k\]: B6
Javaness [2k\]: hane
]
;W[dm]C[rayen [2k\]: b6 
]
;B[al]
;W[cn]C[sheva [23k?\]: 
]
;B[am]
;W[cm]C[Seikenn [-\]: yes^__^
]
;B[em]
;W[dn]
;B[en]
;W[do]
;B[dp]
;W[eo]C[digikid [10k\]: I see...
]
;B[fo]C[Nezrif [6k\]: ^^
bouboubou [3k\]: shicho
rayen [2k\]: 
tmc [-\]: heh
XshindokaX [16k\]: cool
ByanGwok02 [7k\]: wow
digikid [10k\]: Yes
]))
(;B[kd]C[dipsi [18k\]: F9????
KakureKage [17k\]: the game ended already
bouboubou [3k\]: what do you mean?
dipsi [18k\]: NO
bouboubou [3k\]: ..
bouboubou [3k\]: keep your calm
dipsi [18k\]: NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
v0ndutch: is it the only move?
]
;W[ie]
;B[hg]C[KakureKage [17k\]: ?
Podjeved [-\]: inducing a move.
mamolo [6k\]: exactly
])
(;B[hg]
;W[hi]
;B[kd]
;W[ji]
;B[ie]))
(;W[ej]
;B[kd]
;W[ie]
;B[hg]
;W[jf]
;B[hj]C[mamolo [6k\]: so what would you play instead of c13 ?
bouboubou [3k\]: f11 tobi ^^ 
haukka [8k\]: W F11
]))
(;W[id]C[Vahe [13k\]: probe
dipsi [18k\]: h16
koroshiya [4k\]: f18 sacrifice 1 stone to get good shape outside
rayen [2k\]: they played uptil h15 
]
;B[ck])
(;W[cl]
;B[hc]C[digikid [10k\]: Yes
dipsi [18k\]: no
ScudRunner [11k\]: very subtle
bouboubou [3k\]: ^^
Nezrif [6k\]: isn't C8 bigger than H17?
digikid [10k\]: lol freedom
Wfreedom [4d\]: lol?
digikid [10k\]: Ask her to speak chinese then -_-
bouboubou [3k\]: sure
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: and works fine with Q16
digikid [10k\]: Yes
dipsi [18k\]: no
ScudRunner [11k\]: yes, it makes sense now
bouboubou [3k\]: lol
SerJO [8k\]: yes
TotoroShan [5k\]: yes
ScudRunner [11k\]: thank you
digikid [10k\]: I see... Thanks 
simpkin [11k\]: yes, Guo, thank you for explaining that
Wfreedom [4d\]: can you speak chinese
bouboubou [3k\]: xD
Shanti [6k\]: lol
blueshoe [3k\]: yes, but still c8 looks great
digikid [10k\]: LOL
dipsi [18k\]: g18
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: H17
simpkin [11k\]: blueshoe - it looks good but apparently MM doesn't think so ...
rayen [2k\]: h17 is huge
]))
(;B[ed]
;W[fb]C[Wfreedom [4d\]: ?
]
;B[he]
;W[cl]))
(;B[ed]
;W[ec]
;B[he]
;W[id]
;B[ck]C[sheva [23k?\]: sure
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: w is very weak
]))
(;W[cd]
;B[ed]
;W[ec]
;B[bd]
;W[bc]))
(;W[jq]C[Nezrif [6k\]: So should black have played another move than Q5 in that area or just tenuki?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: as u said~
Hagu [2k\]: m3 aji
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: K3 too far
chrislo [8k\]: k3 => m3 
Nezrif [6k\]: yes
]
(;B[lq])
(;B[mq]C[rayen [2k\]: l3 needs backup if b play h3 
consume [5d\]: invasion point
])))
(;B[ro]
(;W[jq])
(;W[kq]LB[op:B][pp:A]))
(;B[rr]C[v0ndutch: why is the corner now too big and in a previous sequence it wasn't? (the one with the hane at P4
bouboubou [3k\]: O5 is as good as t1 
sadori [1d\]: seems crazy
]
(;W[pn]C[digikid [10k\]: I thought O4 was fine..
reprisal [2d\]: im honestly very surprised to see q4 at their level
]
;B[qn]
;W[qm])
(;W[qn]))
(;B[pn]
;W[rr]C[dipsi [18k\]: o5
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: :O?
bouboubou [3k\]: ^^
digikid [10k\]: O5?
digikid [10k\]: I can't get the idea...
Javaness [2k\]: O5 is no good
]))
(;B[ro]C[reprisal [2d\]: looks like a thank you move
]
;W[jq]))
(;W[pp]C[TonyTiger [1k\]: beige maybe a sand bagger :P
bigfatcat [3k\]: a cool, this is the live commentary i guess
Javaness [2k\]: yes this is live commentary on the game
TonyTiger [1k\]: R5
rayen [2k\]: r5 ?
digikid [10k\]: Q4?
digikid [10k\]: Q3*
Javaness [2k\]: maybe crosscut?
DrOlczyk [9k\]: Q3
Jebus [1d\]: s3!
digikid [10k\]: Wrong lol
mamolo [6k\]: s3?
digikid [10k\]: -_-
Hagu [2k\]: tenuki?
Lacrimosa [1k?\]: r5
Nezrif [6k\]: hane?
mythical [9k\]: q 5
hedkandi05 [13k\]: what does tewari mean ?>consume
]
(;B[po]C[consume [5d\]: it might just be q5.. lol
]
(;W[pq]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: :D
]
;B[ro]LB[qn:A][oo:B]C[digikid [10k\]: I see....
]
(;W[qn]
;B[qo]
;W[rq]
;B[ql])
(;W[oo]
(;B[rq]
;W[pn]
;B[qo]C[ScudRunner [11k\]: what happens if white atari's after the double hane?
])
(;B[pn]
;W[rp]
;B[qo]TR[pn][po][qo]C[tomdraug [9k\]: bad shape :(
])))
(;W[op]
;B[qo]
;W[rq]
;B[qk]TR[np]C[pengin [4d\]: is this a audio lesson?
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: but it isn't
digikid [10k\]: Yes this is
Javaness [2k\]: too slow
]
;AE[np]
;W[lq]C[mamolo [6k\]: no, good one
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: i said it's not a joseki~
digikid [10k\]: I mean, no this is not...
TonyTiger [1k\]: sure
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: yup~
SerJO [8k\]: yes
consume [5d\]: this method of analysis is called tewari
TotoroShan [5k\]: ok
papamisha [1d\]: yes
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: T.T
reprisal [2d\]: ranks jumped up a few stones recently
deviant [2d?\]: 
])
(;W[qo]
;B[rp]C[Javaness [2k\]: tewari is analysis
]
(;W[ro]C[hedkandi05 [13k\]: nod
hedkandi05 [13k\]: thanks
]
;B[op]
;W[pq]C[consume [5d\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Tewari
]
;B[pn]
(;W[oq]
;B[rn]C[deviant [2d?\]: observing the situation by mm.. reassessing the order of moves and comparing to other sequences
]
;W[rq]
;B[qn]
;W[sp]
;B[pj])
(;W[qm]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: and split w
]
(;B[oq])
(;B[pm]
;W[ql]
;B[oq])))
(;W[rq]
;B[op]
;W[pq]
;B[qn]
;W[ro]
;B[rn]
;W[sp]
;B[on]
;W[oq]
;B[qg])))
(;B[qo]C[digikid [10k\]: I see...
]
;W[po]C[digikid [10k\]: White can get more potential?
]
(;B[qn]
;W[rq])
(;B[rq]
;W[qn]))))
(;B[pq]
;W[pp]
;B[pr]
;W[qr]
;B[rr]
;W[rq]
;B[rp]
(;W[sr]
;B[rs]
;W[qs]
;B[sp]
(;W[nr])
(;W[po]C[digikid [10k\]: Wow, I've never made that move before
]))
(;W[rs]
;B[sr]
;W[sq]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: b afraid of cut so he tenuki?
tomdraug [9k\]: the goal to enclose b in corner?
]
(;B[ps]
;W[po]
;B[qs]
;W[ss]
;B[rr])
(;B[op]
;W[po]
;B[oo]
;W[on]
;B[no]
;W[oq]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: wow~
TonyTiger [1k\]: sure
digikid [10k\]: Yes
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: yup~
Nezrif [6k\]: yupp
]))))
(;B[pq]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: and slow
digikid [10k\]: OK GJ 
]
(;W[jq])
(;W[dp]))
(;B[pn]C[Ordiac [4k\]: dang now i dont even hear the click of the stones
]
;W[qq]
;B[pq]
;W[pp]
;B[op]
;W[po]
;B[oo]
;W[qo]
;B[qn]
;W[rp]
;B[ro]
;W[qp]
;B[oq]
;W[rn]
;B[rm]
;W[so]
;B[on])
(;B[dp]C[dantesxx [11k\]: ..
DrOlczyk [9k\]: 
rayen [2k\]: ^^
]
;W[qq]
;B[pq]
;W[pp]))
(;W[dp]C[Jebus [1d\]: eh?
XshindokaX [16k\]: i dont hear 
]
(;B[pq]
(;W[np]C[DrOlczyk [9k\]: Sorry to interupt but two moves have been made.
digikid [10k\]: Thanks
Javaness [2k\]: ok
deviant [2d?\]: right
Jebus [1d\]: thank you Doctor
]
;B[kp])
(;W[jq]C[dantesxx [11k\]: lol
]))
(;B[oq])
(;B[nq])
(;B[fq])))
(;B[qd]
;W[od]
;B[pf]
;W[qc]
;B[rc]
;W[pc]
;B[re]
(;W[lc]C[rayen [2k\]: k3 *
]
;B[jc]C[bouboubou [3k\]: yeah
])
(;W[kc]
;B[ic]C[KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: :O
bouboubou [3k\]: ^^
digikid [10k\]: -_-
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: N17
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: 
Nezrif [6k\]: So should black have played another move than Q5 in that area or just tenuki?
dipsi [18k\]: l15
KawaiiNeko [15k?\]: but you're better than me 
digikid [10k\]: The same with me
dipsi [18k\]: l15
Nezrif [6k\]: XD
Shanti [6k\]: _ 
])))
