(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[10800]OT[10/600 Canadian]
GN[British Championship, game 3]PW[Hui Wang]PB[Matthew Macfadyen]DT[2008-09-13]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: ok i'm working from liyue,s annotated version oif the game
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[oe]
;W[dp]
;B[oo]
;W[dd]
;B[id]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
]
;W[qj]
;B[qf]C[liyue [-\]: ah okay :)
]
;W[qo]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: planning to make it hard for white to choose where to put his weak group
]
;B[qp]
;W[rp]
;B[pp]
;W[rn]
;B[rq]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: i hope people can chip in with questions
Javaness [-\]: O17 seems a bad invasion point
]
(;W[jq]
(;B[oc]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: o17 is about the best white has, but at least it exists
au2 [3d?\]: Is P17 a bit slow or ok?
RubberDuck [5d\]: liyue wanted 
]
;W[gc]C[liyue [-\]: so...g17 is reasonable now...
]
(;B[gd]
(;W[hd]C[liyue [-\]: no worries :)
liyue [-\]: now h15 looks like the only move
]
(;B[he]
;W[hc]
;B[ic]
;W[ie]
(;B[ge]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: here li preferred h14, cos the white corner will need defending soon anyway.
]
(;W[ec]C[liyue [-\]: e17...it is stronger for the corner
liyue [-\]: but a bit less pressure on the g15 three stones
]
(;B[if]
;W[je]
;B[kc]C[liyue [-\]: atari...
liyue [-\]: looks like a crude move :-/
]
(;W[kd]
;B[jb]C[RoundTuit [2k\]: what would be harder?
]
(;W[kg]C[liyue [-\]: l13 looks a bit soft
RoundTuit [2k\]: "bit soft"?
]
;B[ih]C[liyue [-\]: j12 is a good point
]
(;W[ki]
;B[ij]LB[ld:B][md:A]C[liyue [-\]: maybe w doesn't really want to fight with Matthew that soon in the opening :)
liyue [-\]: but now when b is strengthened in the centre
liyue [-\]: w's sentes in the upper side would be wasted
liyue [-\]: as l13 and l11, etc
liyue [-\]: it was soft of too small to aim at the upper side
]
(;W[nc]C[liyue [-\]: w was indeed thinking about the invasion :)
liyue [-\]: even if b just defend the corner then make life, w would just a few points of b's territory in the upper side
liyue [-\]: i think w focused on the wrong side here
]
(;B[hb]
;W[gb]
;B[nd]C[liyue [-\]: i think this is b's idea
liyue [-\]: to make life simply
liyue [-\]: i don't see any good move for w..
liyue [-\]: oh...
]
(;W[md]C[liyue [-\]: this is the real game
]
(;B[me]
(;W[jf]C[liyue [-\]: q17 was a misclick..
BGAadmin [-\]: yes, my misclick
liyue [-\]: no worries 
liyue [-\]: Matthew plays very thick today :)
idiot2 [4d\]: actually that was a misclick of the broadcaster
RubberDuck [5d\]: k14 needed:
]
(;B[mc]C[liyue [-\]: b chose to defend..
liyue [-\]: a thick move
]
;W[ig]
(;B[hg]
;W[hf]C[liyue [-\]: after n17 it was pretty good for b
liyue [-\]: to get the huge territory in the upper side
liyue [-\]: but i think g14 is a hasty move of b
]
(;B[gf]C[liyue [-\]: :)
liyue [-\]: sorry, didn't notice
RubberDuck [5d\]: this came in for a l;ot of stick
]
(;W[hh]
;B[gg]C[liyue [-\]: so..
liyue [-\]: this cut is painful for b
liyue [-\]: now b gave w a target in the center
]
(;W[gh]
;B[fh]
(;W[fi]C[liyue [-\]: both w and b has to be careful now ^^
liyue [-\]: one small mistake might give the whole game away in this fight
liyue [-\]: b only has two options now
liyue [-\]: extend or cut
liyue [-\]: ^^
liyue [-\]: but it is more complicated to extend
RubberDuck [5d\]: my plan a didnt work:
]
(;B[gi]
;W[hi]
;B[hj]
;W[gj]C[liyue [-\]: as well as h10
]
;B[ii]
;W[gi]
;B[eh]C[liyue [-\]: hmmmmm
RubberDuck [5d\]: now it comes down to exactly how black can settle the left side
]
(;W[ei]C[liyue [-\]: these ataris are comfortable..but w's cutting point is defended
]
(;B[ch]
;W[dh]
;B[dg]
;W[di]
(;B[df]
;W[ci]
(;B[bg]
(;W[be]
(;B[bi]
;W[bj]C[liyue [-\]: also the block at g14, made b very thin
]
;B[aj]
;W[ak]
;B[ai]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: so, black lives, but white gets the big point in the centre
]
;W[kk]C[liyue [-\]: nice move, a10
RubberDuck [5d\]: there is aji in the corner:
]
(;B[bk]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: this is only
]
(;W[gl]C[liyue [-\]: sorry
liyue [-\]: hmm
liyue [-\]: this move...
liyue [-\]: with g8...there is still a gap for b to escape later
liyue [-\]: after this fight, it was a very good game for w
RubberDuck [5d\]: li didnt like this, it doesnt kill j10 properly, and doesnt make the territory secure
]
(;B[ip]C[liyue [-\]: ah
liyue [-\]: considering how thick is w now
RubberDuck [5d\]: now i want to pull out j10, but cant afford to make it small or heavy
]
(;W[iq]
;B[gp]C[liyue [-\]: hehe i think w is leading now...the center is too thick
liyue [-\]: but...difficult to say, depends on the fighting
Javaness [-\]: who banned liyue sensei?
liyue [-\]: w decided to attack
]
(;W[io]C[Enzan [6k\]: banned?
liyue [-\]: oops :)
liyue [-\]: sorry again, java problem :)
liyue [-\]: still difficult for b though  :(
]
(;B[dq]C[liyue [-\]: Matthew had the same idea as me :)
]
(;W[cq]
;B[ep]
;W[do]C[liyue [-\]: as long as b make life easliy in the lower side, b is profited in this battle
liyue [-\]: everybody had a nice lunch? :)
]
(;B[cr]C[liyue [-\]: hmmm
RubberDuck [5d\]: c2 is a device to draw all blacks assets towards the main fighting area
RubberDuck [5d\]: i only want to pull out j10 if it results in attacking g11 or l13
]
(;W[dr]
;B[eq]
;W[br]
(;B[jp]C[liyue [-\]: oh they are back!
]
;W[hp]
;B[hq]
;W[ho]
(;B[kq]C[liyue [-\]: but...
]
(;W[hr]
;B[gq]
;W[kr]C[liyue [-\]: hmm this doesn't look good for b
]
;B[kp]
;W[lr]
;B[gr]C[liyue [-\]: yes, the commentary will continue after the lunch break
liyue [-\]: these exchanges are not necessary
liyue [-\]: have a good lunch :) see you later
]
(;W[ir]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: lunch break, black has three seriously weak small groups, and wants to rescue any two of them
RubberDuck [5d\]: there is potential to attack at k1, but i couldnt find a way to use it directly
]
;B[cp]
;W[bq]C[liyue [-\]: so...b must make life now
]
;B[dn]C[liyue [-\]: d6 is a tesuji in general...but now
liyue [-\]: suddently everything is going worng
liyue [-\]: w was somewhat not so relax in this fight
liyue [-\]: didn't really try to attack b severely
RubberDuck [5d\]: now huang found a really good move, but not until he'd done something bad
]
(;W[eo]
(;B[fn]
(;W[co]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: this was a bit too slow
]
;B[hm]C[liyue [-\]: oops sorry again
liyue [-\]: (many problems today)
liyue [-\]: so...
liyue [-\]: i am still wondering if w has a move to counterattack here :)
liyue [-\]: doesn't look like...
liyue [-\]: then h7 is a very nice move
liyue [-\]: after the nice move at h7 the game is getting close
]
(;W[jn]C[liyue [-\]: w decided to defend first
]
(;B[gm]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: now white has j9 to capture the j10 stones, but needs some preparation
Javaness [-\]: I felt not killing off J10 was an error
RubberDuck [5d\]: yes, once i rescued j10 and connected it to the g2 group, i felt it was my game
]
;W[fl]
(;B[jm]C[Javaness [-\]: J8 is not working?
]
;W[lo]
(;B[kn]
;W[ko]
;B[jo]
(;W[in]
;B[im]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: for who?
RubberDuck [5d\]: white can still catch j10:
]
(;W[lq]
(;B[en]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: actually i complacently thpought this would be a killing attack
]
;W[hk]
;B[ik]
;W[hl]
;B[jk]
;W[cl]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: but it cost a lot for w to live
]
;B[go]
;W[lp]
(;B[cn]
;W[bl]
;B[bo]
;W[bp]
;B[al]C[liyue [-\]: b's idea of these moves is to strengthen itself first
liyue [-\]: i think w is worried now
RubberDuck [5d\]: now black is very nearly alive
]
(;W[ek]
;B[lh]
(;W[ld]
(;B[lc]
(;W[kh]
(;B[sp]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: w cant attack this way:
]
(;W[nf]
;B[ne]C[liyue [-\]: t4, is a big point, but now w got connect in the center
]
(;W[qg]C[liyue [-\]: r13 looks like a nice move
]
(;B[rg]
(;W[pf]
;B[qe]
;W[qh]
;B[rh]
;W[ri]C[liyue [-\]: b has about 5 points more now in the upper side
RubberDuck [5d\]: now the hard bit to count is whites right centre
]
(;B[of]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: i thought this was sente
]
(;W[ha]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: this is real points, 9 points reverse sente, but it is a yose move
]
;B[ql]C[liyue [-\]: better for w to strengthen the right side
liyue [-\]: while taking yose
liyue [-\]: h19 is only a yose
liyue [-\]: of 8 points
RubberDuck [5d\]: this is a middle game move
RubberDuck [5d\]: white has an easy ko
]
(;W[qm]
;B[qk]C[liyue [-\]: w is unnecessarily aggressive here :-/
liyue [-\]: r9 is a nice move
liyue [-\]: very good attack of b!
RubberDuck [5d\]: li likes r9, and so do i. I dont think white has a chance now
]
(;W[on]
(;B[ol]
;W[nn]
(;B[oh]C[liyue [-\]: hmm b chose the other side
RubberDuck [5d\]: this is slow and thick, but there seems to be no good reply
RubberDuck [5d\]: but this is simpler
]
(;W[oj]
;B[nj]
(;W[oi]
(;B[ni]
;W[nk]
(;B[lj]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: closing in for the kill
]
(;W[li]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: he tries to make a liberty shortage
]
(;B[mk]
;W[nh]
;B[mh]
;W[ng]
;B[og]
;W[mi]
;B[mj]
;W[kj]
(;B[ml]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: aims both ways
]
(;W[lg]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: still not alive
]
(;B[ok]
;W[ib]
;B[jc]C[liyue [-\]: well..game is over i think
]
;W[lm]
;B[ll]
;W[kl]
;B[km]
;W[lf]C[liyue [-\]: w was unreasonable in the right side
]
;B[ln]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: this aims at O5, so white too busy
]
;W[so]C[liyue [-\]: also the tenuki at j18, would have been a good game for w if w defended the right side
RubberDuck [5d\]: might as well try the ko
]
;B[ro]
;W[sh]
;B[rf]
;W[rp]
;B[ck]C[liyue [-\]: similar to the last game :) wang hui was leading in after the opening, but suddenly something dead :(
liyue [-\]: b played very creative and powerful in the battle in the bottom
]
(;W[dk]
;B[ro]
;W[rl]C[liyue [-\]: and for w, w looked a bit scared to fight and attack
]
(;B[rk]
;W[rp]
;B[cj]
;W[dj]
;B[ro]
;W[nm]
;B[nl]
;W[rp]
;B[if]C[liyue [-\]: so...in the opening
liyue [-\]: w made mistake of direction in the upper side
]
(;W[le]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: i think wang's brain had turned to porridge by this point, he minimises my ko threats but there's really nothing to do
RubberDuck [5d\]: it mainly came down to a couple of hasty moves just after lunch.
RubberDuck [5d\]: always need 15 minutes sitting on hands after a lunch break in a long game
]
;B[ro]TW[hb][ke][kf][ej][fj][fk][gk][jo][cp][ip][jp][kp][kq]TB[hf][bj][ak][nk][rp]C[liyue [-\]: congratulations to Matthew :) it was a very interesting game
liyue [-\]: so thanks for watching!
liyue [-\]: and thx for both players for the great game...see you on 1st Nov for the next exciting game :-)
liyue [-\]: bye all
RubberDuck [5d\]: any questions?
RubberDuck [5d\]: else my dinner time#
au2 [3d?\]: thanks for review. Good luck next game
nemo04 [?\]: thanks for the interesting game and review
])
(;W[jg]C[liyue [-\]: w must respond..
]
;B[ro]C[liyue [-\]: no more ko threat :(
]
(;W[il]
;B[sn]
;W[jl]
;B[no]C[liyue [-\]: the lower right corner is huge
])
(;W[eg]
;B[sn]
;W[fg]
;B[ee]C[liyue [-\]: b can connect
])))
(;B[sn]
;W[rk]C[liyue [-\]: b is thinking on kill it all i think..
]
;B[sm]
;W[mm]C[liyue [-\]: but b has some weaknesses
]))
(;W[sq]
;B[fk]
;W[rr]
;B[fo]
;W[cp]
;B[bn]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: black gains 50 points and loses 40
]))
(;B[lm]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: actually i could have played here
]
;W[lf]
;B[ok]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: all connected
]))
(;W[nl]
(;B[ok]
;W[nm]
;B[rk]
;W[ll]
;B[mm]
(;W[ln])
(;W[lm]
;B[mn]
;W[ln]
;B[mo]
;W[bn]))
(;B[nm]
;W[ok]
;B[lm]C[liyue [-\]: w is too thin everywhere
])))
(;B[nl]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
]
;W[ml]
;B[ok]
;W[lk]
;B[nk]
;W[bn]
;B[bm]
;W[ao]
(;B[cm]
;W[am]
;B[an]C[liyue [-\]: it is a ko
])
(;B[am]C[liyue [-\]: hmm what if b connects..
]
;W[cm]
;B[ck]
;W[dl]
;B[dj]
;W[cj]
;B[dk]
;W[ej]
;B[ak]
;W[fk]C[liyue [-\]: w is alive
])))
(;B[mk]C[liyue [-\]: w n9..
]
;W[nl]
;B[kj]
;W[mh]
;B[nh]C[liyue [-\]: can't make two eyes in the center..
]))
(;W[kj]C[Javaness [-\]: :)
]
(;B[ok]C[liyue [-\]: if w connects
]
;W[nh]
;B[mh]
;W[ng]
;B[og]
;W[nl]
;B[rk]C[liyue [-\]: now o8 is a gote
liyue [-\]: w can kill the right side
])
(;B[ll]
;W[nh]
;B[li])
(;B[mk]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: this was the key point
])))
(;B[ok]
;W[nl]C[liyue [-\]: what about connect
]
;B[nh]
;W[sh]
;B[rf]
;W[rk]
;B[rl]
(;W[sl]
;B[sm]
;W[sk]
;B[rm]
;W[sn])
(;W[sk]
;B[sl]
;W[pl]
;B[pk]
;W[rm]C[liyue [-\]: w wins this fight now
])))
(;B[ni]
;W[kl]
;B[ok]))
(;W[nk]
;B[ok]
;W[oi]
;B[ni]
;W[nh]
;B[mh]
;W[ng]
;B[og]
(;W[mi]
;B[mj]
(;W[mk]
;B[lj])
(;W[lj]
;B[mk]
;W[nl]
;B[ml]
;W[nm]C[liyue [-\]: hmm the cut is not working
]))
(;W[mk]
;B[mi]
;W[sh]
;B[rf]
;W[rk]
;B[rl]
;W[sk]
;B[sl]
;W[pl]
;B[pk]
;W[om]C[liyue [-\]: b has one more liberty
]))
(;W[oi]
;B[ni]
;W[ok]
;B[nk]
;W[pl]C[liyue [-\]: so if w cuts like this..
]
;B[ll]))
(;W[oj]C[liyue [-\]: but w can get out now
liyue [-\]: and after p10 b is weakened :-/
]))
(;B[nj]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: li wanted this direction
]
(;W[oh]
;B[nh]
;W[ng]
;B[oi]
;W[og]
;B[mh]C[liyue [-\]: w is cut
])
(;W[nh]
(;B[mh]
;W[ni]
;B[lj])
(;B[lj]
;W[kj]
;B[mh]C[liyue [-\]: still cut
]))
(;W[og]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: but i didnt like the look of this white, making eues or connecting/ cutting at n13
]
;B[mg]
;W[mf]
;B[ng]
;W[lf]
;B[oh]
;W[pg]
;B[pj]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: probably i am ok here
]))
(;B[mj]C[liyue [-\]: b should attack from the lower side
]))
(;B[nn]
(;W[ol]
;B[ok]
;W[nm]
;B[pj]
;W[pi]
;B[oi]
;W[oh]
;B[ni]
;W[nh]
;B[mh]C[liyue [-\]: w is devided into 3 pieces..
])
(;W[om]
;B[ok]
;W[nm]
;B[ni]C[liyue [-\]: looks better for b
])))
(;W[om]
;B[ok]
;W[oh]
;B[mk]C[liyue [-\]: complicated again
]))
(;W[rl]
(;B[mk]C[liyue [-\]: maybe b wants to attack now..after p14
])
(;B[rk]
;W[qk]
;B[rm]
;W[qm]
;B[sl]
;W[pl]
;B[pm]
;W[rl]
;B[ck]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: but i have some hunky ko threats
])))
(;W[ro]C[liyue [-\]: maybe w can connect now
liyue [-\]: however, w would still be leading
liyue [-\]: in territory
liyue [-\]: if w strengthen the right side 
]
;B[or]
;W[on]
;B[nn]
;W[om]C[liyue [-\]: make the right side a good shape
]))
(;B[pi]
;W[qi]
(;B[nh]C[liyue [-\]: maybe keep w's connection 
]
(;W[oh])
(;W[ll]))
(;B[qm]
;W[rm]C[liyue [-\]: when b attack, w can also connect these two stones
liyue [-\]: two and half :)
]
;B[om]
;W[ql])
(;B[ql]
;W[rl]
;B[rk]
;W[qk]
;B[rm]
;W[qm]
;B[sl]
;W[pl]
;B[pm]
;W[rl]C[liyue [-\]: r8 is also an option
liyue [-\]: but this ko is not so heavy for w
]
;B[cj]
;W[dj]
;B[ql]
;W[qn]
;B[sn]
;W[rl]C[liyue [-\]: quite painful for b
])))
(;W[qh]
;B[rh]
;W[ri]C[liyue [-\]: s13 tries to get more territory
]
;B[qm]C[liyue [-\]: maybe invade now
]
(;W[pn]
;B[rm]
;W[so]
;B[ro]C[liyue [-\]: w doesn't really want this ko i think
liyue [-\]: as w is leading
])
(;W[ql]
;B[rm]
;W[pm]
;B[qn]
;W[rl]
;B[ro]
;W[pf]
;B[qe]
;W[kl]
;B[bm]
;W[mf]C[liyue [-\]: could be a problem for b in the center
])))
(;B[pg]
;W[qh]
;B[rf]
(;W[pm]C[liyue [-\]: if b defends, w will get the sente
liyue [-\]: it is difficult to attack b now
])
(;W[kl]
;B[bm]C[liyue [-\]: but b would have to defend if w make an move around l8
])))
(;W[qh]C[liyue [-\]: w might defend now
liyue [-\]: while taking a big point
liyue [-\]: if like this...
liyue [-\]: b still has 30 points in the upper side
liyue [-\]: the lower right corner is reduced
liyue [-\]: 8 points or so only
liyue [-\]: a bit less than 10 points in the left side
liyue [-\]: but we can count it as 10
liyue [-\]: w has 20 points in the lower side
liyue [-\]: 10 points in the lower left
liyue [-\]: 15 in the upper left corner
liyue [-\]: 5 points in the center, f8 group
liyue [-\]: hmm w is still leading
]))
(;W[bm]
;B[bn]
;W[am]
;B[fo]
;W[cp]
;B[er]
;W[cs]
;B[es]
;W[ds]
;B[fm]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: f7 lives absolutely, and also aims at d9
])
(;W[bn]
;B[bm]
;W[ao]
;B[dl]
;W[ck]
;B[cj]
;W[dk]
;B[cm]
;W[am]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: there is s ko here, but white has to win it cos g8 hasnt eyes
]))
(;B[oj]C[liyue [-\]: anyway
liyue [-\]: though b is quite thin in the center
liyue [-\]: in the corner, sorry
liyue [-\]: b should separate w now
liyue [-\]: must get some profit through the attack
]
;W[ll]C[liyue [-\]: oh
]
(;B[ql])
(;B[qm]
(;W[rm]
;B[qk]
;W[rk]
;B[rl]
;W[sl]
;B[ql]
;W[ri]
;B[qh]C[liyue [-\]: w is painful in the right side
])
(;W[bm]
;B[bn]
;W[am]
;B[fo]
;W[cp]
;B[er]
;W[cs]
;B[es]
;W[ds]
;B[gs]C[liyue [-\]: b is already alive in the lower side
])
(;W[bn]
;B[bm]
;W[ao]
;B[cm]
;W[am]C[liyue [-\]: a crazy ko if b ignores
]))))
(;W[kh]
;B[pj]
;W[qi]C[liyue [-\]: no...q10 is too risky :)
]
;B[mk]
;W[mj]))
(;B[lc]
;W[kh]
;B[oj]C[liyue [-\]: maybe b has some other idea
]))
(;W[kh]
;B[mk]C[liyue [-\]: can't tell if the exchange at m12 is good
]))
(;W[ck]
;B[cj]
;W[dj]C[liyue [-\]: when w make life
liyue [-\]: so if w defends..
]
;B[mk]C[liyue [-\]: i am sure he wants to attack :)
]
;W[mi]C[liyue [-\]: well...in the battle in the lower side
liyue [-\]: from w's big moyo w really didn't get anything interesting
liyue [-\]: only five stones in the bottom
liyue [-\]: but after b escaped, w's center even appears weak
])
(;W[qh]
;B[fk]C[liyue [-\]: w can't ignore the center
]
(;W[ek]
;B[ck]
;W[dk]
;B[cj])
(;W[ck]
;B[cj]
;W[dj]
(;B[ek])
(;B[dl]))))
(;B[mk]C[liyue [-\]: attack!
]))
(;B[dl]C[liyue [-\]: why didn't b jump :-/
]))
(;W[mq])
(;W[km]
(;B[dl]
;W[en]
;B[em]
;W[fm]
;B[go]
;W[ln]
;B[cj]C[liyue [-\]: the trouble is also...since g5 is a sente b doesn't even need to connect
])
(;B[en]
;W[ik]
;B[jk]
;W[hk]
;B[kl]
;W[jj]
;B[lm]
;W[lp]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: imo this is better for w
])
(;B[kl]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: have to play here to keep j10 alive
]
;W[en]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: so he can connect
]
;B[lm]
;W[lp]
;B[lh]
;W[kh]
;B[lk]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: but the top centre is very thin for w
RubberDuck [5d\]: perhaps no improvement
])))
(;W[in]
;B[im]
;W[km]
;B[en]C[liyue [-\]: b wants to have the sente at j7
liyue [-\]: then...kill the center?
]
;W[cl]
;B[ck]
;W[dl]
;B[cn]))
(;B[km]C[liyue [-\]: l7 is a good point :)
liyue [-\]: the reason why w didn't block is w doesn't want b to separate the g8 group in sente
]
(;W[en])
(;W[ko]
;B[hl]
;W[en]
;B[lj]
;W[kj]
;B[ml]C[liyue [-\]: but now b can even counterattack in the center
]))
(;B[il]C[Javaness [-\]: before :)
RubberDuck [5d\]: you mean here?
Javaness [-\]: no
]))
(;B[jm]
;W[km]
;B[jl]
;W[kl]
;B[en]C[liyue [-\]: now that w let b connect everything
liyue [-\]: it looks really comfortable 
liyue [-\]: for b
])
(;B[hl]
;W[en]
;B[fm]
;W[em]
;B[el]
;W[dl]
;B[ek]
;W[dk]
;B[gk]
;W[lo]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: this way is not much fun
]))
(;B[jm]
;W[km]
;B[gm]C[liyue [-\]: but now b looks really have a nice shape
]))
(;W[gm]
;B[gn]
;W[hn]
(;B[im]
;W[jn]
;B[km]
;W[jm]
;B[jl]
;W[kn]
;B[lm]
;W[ln]
;B[mm]
;W[mn]C[liyue [-\]: isn't h7 a bit risky :-/
liyue [-\]: b can't seal w in now
])
(;B[jn]C[liyue [-\]: k6 looks like a good point to attack
liyue [-\]: there is no other way?
]
;W[im]
;B[hl]
;W[in]
;B[gk]
(;W[fk]
;B[hk]
;W[el]
;B[jm]C[liyue [-\]: w is killed now
])
(;W[em]
;B[en]
;W[el]
;B[fk]
;W[cl]
;B[ek]
;W[cm]C[liyue [-\]: maybe w can make an exchange like this
]
;B[ck]C[liyue [-\]: but still painful
]))))
(;W[en]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: this is whites fighting line
]
;B[hm]
;W[jn]
;B[em]
;W[fo]
;B[go]
;W[gn]
;B[fm]
;W[dm]
;B[gm]
;W[hn]
;B[cn]
;W[co]
;B[bo]
;W[bp]
;B[fp]
;W[cp]
;B[dl]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: now im going to try to kill g11
]))
(;B[fn]
;W[en]
(;B[fm]
;W[em]
;B[fl]
;W[hm]C[liyue [-\]: looks really dangerious for b
])
(;B[em]
;W[co]
;B[gm]
;W[hl]
(;B[dm])
(;B[dl]C[liyue [-\]: e7 is better
]))))
(;W[eo]
;B[fn]
;W[en])
(;W[en]C[liyue [-\]: maybe here
liyue [-\]: instead of extend
]
;B[eo]
;W[co]
;B[fn]
;W[em]C[liyue [-\]: e6 would give b more pressure
]
;B[hm]
;W[jn]C[liyue [-\]: now w is connected itself
])
(;W[gn]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: if white plays here, j10 is dead, l4 is ready to die, and d5 can't be killed cleanly
]
;B[fn]
;W[mp]
;B[sp]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: something like this looks good for w
]))
(;W[ir]
;B[cp]
;W[bq]
;B[en]
;W[co]
;B[gn]
;W[im]
;B[er]
;W[cs]
;B[eo]
;W[oq]C[liyue [-\]: hmm now the group at m2 will be able to attack the corner in the right side
]
;B[pr]
;W[pq]
;B[qq]
;W[or]
;B[qs]
;W[pm]))
(;W[hr]
;B[gq]
;W[kr]
;B[lq]
;W[lr]
;B[mq]
;W[mr]
;B[nq]C[liyue [-\]: w is alive
]))
(;B[lq]))
(;B[hq]
;W[jp]
(;B[er])
(;B[en]C[liyue [-\]: look better, now w is far from the right side
])))
(;W[eq]
;B[dr]
;W[fq]
;B[hq]
;W[jp]
;B[fp]
;W[hr]
;B[gq]C[liyue [-\]: because of the sente at h4, w can't cut b like this
]))
(;B[er]C[liyue [-\]: e2 is the key point now
]
;W[cr]
;B[hq]
;W[jp]
;B[eo]
;W[dn]
;B[gn]C[liyue [-\]: b make two eyes
]
;W[oq]C[liyue [-\]: but...i have the feeling that w didn't get much in this battle
]))
(;W[eq]
;B[ep]C[liyue [-\]: if w counterattacks
]
;W[fq]
(;B[cq])
(;B[eo]
;W[cq]
;B[dr]
;W[cr]
;B[do]
;W[cp]
;B[gq]C[liyue [-\]: b has a nice shape now
liyue [-\]: it is difficult for w to kill it
]))
(;W[cq]
;B[hq]
;W[jp]
;B[eq]
;W[cp]
;B[ep]
;W[oq]
;B[pr]
;W[or]
;B[sp]
;W[pm]C[liyue [-\]: w should simplify the game now
]))
(;B[ho]
;W[jo]
;B[hm]C[liyue [-\]: there seems to be a gap in the left side now
])
(;B[jp]
;W[hp]
;B[hq]
;W[ho]
;B[kq]
;W[hr]
;B[gq]
;W[kr]
;B[lq]
;W[lr]
;B[mq]
;W[mr]
;B[nq]
;W[gr]C[liyue [-\]: b can't fight like this :(
])
(;B[dq]
;W[cq]
;B[hq]
;W[jp]
;B[eq]
;W[cp]C[liyue [-\]: maybe better to make life first
]
;B[ep]
;W[oq]C[liyue [-\]: p3 is so comfortable
]
;B[pr]))
(;W[hq]
;B[gn]
;W[il]C[liyue [-\]: j3 looks a bit soft
])
(;W[in]C[liyue [-\]: j6 looks better
]
(;B[hq]
;W[jp]C[liyue [-\]: if b dare block, it will be sealed in
])
(;B[jp]
;W[kp]
;B[hq]
;W[lq]C[liyue [-\]: still, w has a good shape
liyue [-\]: :)
])))
(;W[jp]
(;B[io]
;W[jo]
;B[in]
;W[il]C[liyue [-\]: very comfortable for w
liyue [-\]: kill the 4stones completely while attacking
])
(;B[in]C[liyue [-\]: maybe this is what b is aiming at
liyue [-\]: still look to me better to attack from the right side
]
;W[io]
;B[ho]
;W[jo]
;B[il]
;W[hm]C[liyue [-\]: but b is very thin now
])))
(;B[jp]C[liyue [-\]: but i think w want to keep the center strong
liyue [-\]: k4..really?
])
(;B[fq]
;W[eq]
;B[fp]
;W[dn]
;B[io]
;W[kp]C[liyue [-\]: f3 might be better, if it works it will take all w's territory, but more risky
]))
(;W[fp]C[liyue [-\]: probably more pratical to defend the lower side
]
(;B[gk]
;W[fk]
;B[gl]
;W[dl]C[liyue [-\]: b doesn't have a nice move to attack w
])
(;B[gl]
;W[gk]
;B[il]
;W[fl]))
(;W[cn]C[liyue [-\]: or in the left side
]
(;B[dk]
;W[el]C[liyue [-\]: b can't get out
])
(;B[hl]
;W[fl]C[liyue [-\]: keep attacking if b escape
])))
(;B[bd]
(;W[ce]
;B[cc]
;W[db]
;B[cb]
;W[bb]
;B[ba]
;W[ab]
;B[ad]
;W[af]
;B[cd]
;W[bh]
;B[ah]
;W[ag]
;B[bh]
;W[bf]
;B[cg]
;W[de]
;B[bk]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: no good for w
])
(;W[cd]
;B[bc]
;W[ce]
;B[cb]
;W[ab]
;B[eb]
;W[db]
;B[da]
;W[dc]
;B[fa]
;W[fb]
;B[ga]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: huge ko
])
(;W[bc]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: probably has to play here
]
;B[cd]
;W[cc]
;B[ce]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: so the corner is quite small
])))
(;B[bh]))
(;W[ce]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: this suggestion is much worse at covering the corner, b16 will become good
])
(;W[ce]
;B[bi]
;W[cf]
;B[cg]
;W[bj]
;B[ai]
;W[kk]C[liyue [-\]: similar
liyue [-\]: if it is like this
liyue [-\]: b has 30 points in the upper side
liyue [-\]: plus a little thickness
liyue [-\]: 10 points or so in the lower right corner
liyue [-\]: 5 points in the left side
liyue [-\]: w has 15 points or so in the upper left corner
liyue [-\]: the right side, it is a bit thin, we can say 5 points
liyue [-\]: but the center is awfully big
liyue [-\]: depends on the fight, but the game is quite difficult for b now
])
(;W[bh]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: this looks obvious, but fails,
]
(;B[cg]
;W[ce]
;B[bi]
;W[bj]
;B[ah]C[liyue [-\]: maybe better
]
;W[kk])
(;B[bd]
;W[ce]
;B[be]
;W[cf]
;B[cg]
;W[bf]
;B[af]
;W[cc]
;B[bc]
;W[cb]
;B[bb]
;W[ha]
;B[ib]
;W[fd]
;B[kj]
;W[lj]
;B[li]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: black lives in sente (actually m11 might be trying too hard here
])))
(;B[bh]
;W[ce]
;B[bf]
(;W[kk]C[liyue [-\]: the left side is too painful...
])
(;W[bi]C[liyue [-\]: b13 is slightly better in the game
liyue [-\]: because now b11 is a sente
])))
(;B[cf]C[liyue [-\]: c14 looks better
]
(;W[ci]
;B[bd]C[liyue [-\]: if w block b can enter the corner
])
(;W[be]
;B[ci]C[liyue [-\]: or get out
])
(;W[eg]
;B[ef]
;W[fg]
;B[ee]C[liyue [-\]: b can sacrifice two stones
])))
(;B[dh]
;W[cj]
;B[ci]
;W[bj]))
(;W[dj]C[liyue [-\]: d10 looks like a prefect point
]
;B[gk]
;W[ej]C[liyue [-\]: both b upper side and center are weak
]))
(;B[eh]C[liyue [-\]: i think g11 then h10 are the cause
]
;W[ei]C[liyue [-\]: e11 is more aggresive
]
(;B[di]
;W[gj]
(;B[dj]
;W[dh]
;B[dg]
;W[ch]
;B[cg]
;W[bh]
;B[bg]
(;W[eg])
(;W[bj]
;B[ck]
;W[eg]
;B[fg]
;W[ef]))
(;B[dh]
;W[dk]C[liyue [-\]: the cut is unbearable for b
liyue [-\]: keep attacking
]))
(;B[gi]
;W[hi]
;B[gj]
;W[ii]C[liyue [-\]: what if b cuts now..
]
(;B[dh])
(;B[di]
;W[ej]
;B[dj]
;W[ek]
;B[dk]
;W[el]
;B[df]C[liyue [-\]: similar
liyue [-\]: all the reasonable result will be b live in the left side and w get the strong wall in the center :)
])))
(;B[jh]
;W[eh]
;B[fg]
;W[gi]
;B[kh]
;W[lg]
(;B[lh]
;W[eg]
;B[jg]
;W[if]
;B[kf]
;W[lf]
;B[le]
;W[ke]
;B[mg]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: black is a liberty behind
])
(;B[df]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: have to play here
]
;W[lh]
;B[ei]
;W[fk]
;B[di]
;W[jk]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: perhaps slightly better for black than the game
Javaness [-\]: is c17 some danger
RubberDuck [5d\]: yes, I was hoping to gain a move due to c17 threat, but he found a good time to patch it
])))
(;W[gj]C[liyue [-\]: now what if w jumps..
]
;B[fi]
;W[hj]
;B[ek]C[liyue [-\]: b would have a nice shape in the left side
])
(;W[fi]C[liyue [-\]: so w must hane
]
(;B[gi]
;W[hi]
;B[gj]
;W[eh]
;B[fg]
;W[ii]
;B[ei]
;W[fj]
;B[di]
;W[fk]
;B[dg]C[liyue [-\]: an exchange
])
(;B[eh]C[liyue [-\]: b could also extend
]
;W[gj]C[liyue [-\]: if w defends the center
]
;B[ei]
;W[ej]
;B[dj]
;W[ek]
;B[dk]
;W[el]
;B[cf]C[liyue [-\]: b has a pretty territory in the left side 
])))
(;W[gh]
;B[fh]
;W[fi]
;B[gi]
;W[hi]
;B[gj]
;W[eh]
;B[fg]
;W[ii]
;B[ei]
;W[fj]
;B[di]
;W[fk]
;B[dg]
;W[oq]C[liyue [-\]: now w can strengthen the centre like this
liyue [-\]: then finally get my favorite point in the lower side...
])
(;W[gi]
;B[fi]
;W[fj]
(;B[ei]C[liyue [-\]: or...g11 to attack
])
(;B[gh]
;W[hi]
;B[ei]
;W[gk]
;B[df])))
(;W[gg]C[liyue [-\]: hmmmmmm
RubberDuck [5d\]: that is unplayable and a recorder misclick
]
;B[if]
(;W[jg]
;B[hh]C[liyue [-\]: oh...
liyue [-\]: g13 looks like a serious mistake
liyue [-\]: now b is connected
]
(;W[hf]
;B[fg]
;W[gh]
;B[fi])
(;W[fg]
;B[hf]
;W[dg]
;B[jk]TR[fg][gg]C[liyue [-\]: f13 two stones looks painful
liyue [-\]: ah...
]))
(;W[hh]
;B[jg]
;W[jh])
(;W[lc]C[liyue [-\]: w wants to fight this ko?
]
;B[ld]
;W[hf]
;B[hh]
;W[fg]
;B[if]C[liyue [-\]: but it is too heavy for w..
]
;W[jd]
;B[jc]
;W[hf]
;B[fc]
;W[fb]
;B[if]))
(;W[hh]
;B[if]
;W[jg]C[liyue [-\]: right...g14 looks a bit think..
liyue [-\]: thin*
liyue [-\]: looks to me it is a must to cut
]
;B[gh]
;W[hi]C[liyue [-\]: hmm 
]))
(;B[gg]C[liyue [-\]: thicker to extend..
liyue [-\]: a good game for b like this
]
;W[hh]
;B[hi]C[liyue [-\]: now the ladder is good for b
]
;W[gh]
;B[fh]
;W[gf]
;B[gi]
;W[fe]C[liyue [-\]: if w make this exchange it is ok
]
;B[lq]C[liyue [-\]: both w and b are strong in the center
liyue [-\]: but b got a hge corner in the upper side
]))
(;B[hg]
;W[hf]
;B[gg]C[liyue [-\]: he thinks there is no problem in the left side
]))
(;B[hg]C[liyue [-\]: but...now w is strengthening b's center even more
]
;W[lc]
;B[lb]
;W[jd]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
]
(;B[jc]
;W[mb]
;B[ma]
;W[ob]
;B[pc]
;W[na]
;B[la]
;W[ha]C[liyue [-\]: w is aiming on killing the upper side
])
(;B[mb]
;W[jc]
;B[ib]
;W[kb]
;B[ka]
;W[mc]
;B[nb]
;W[ja]
;B[kc]C[liyue [-\]: a ko...
liyue [-\]: but very heavy for w
])))
(;W[pc]C[liyue [-\]: here...!
liyue [-\]: hmmm
RubberDuck [5d\]: li wanted to try living in the corner, but concluded that it died
]
;B[ob]
;W[pd]
;B[od]
;W[qe]
;B[rf]
;W[re]
;B[qb]
;W[pf]
;B[pe]
;W[rc]
;B[qh])
(;W[lc]
;B[lb]
;W[mb]
;B[le]
;W[ld]
;B[jf]
;W[la]
;B[kb]
;W[ob]
;B[jd]
;W[ke]
;B[kf]
;W[mc]
;B[ga]
;W[pc]
;B[fc]
;W[fb]
;B[eb]
;W[fd]
;B[fa]
;W[fc]
;B[db]C[Javaness [-\]: why not just E18 at once :)
RubberDuck [5d\]: black gets too thick in the centre
]))
(;B[me]C[liyue [-\]: does n15 working...
]
(;W[lc]
;B[lb]
;W[mb]
;B[le]
;W[ld]
;B[jf]
;W[la]
;B[kb]
;W[jd]
;B[nb]C[liyue [-\]: w is pretty dead like this...
]
;W[ob]
;B[mc]C[liyue [-\]: no ko threat
])
(;W[ld]
;B[mb]C[liyue [-\]: if w connects
liyue [-\]: b can connect itself comfortably
])))
(;W[mc]
(;B[ld]
;W[md]
;B[me]
;W[lc]
;B[le]
;W[jf]
;B[lb]C[liyue [-\]: w has no liberty
])
(;B[md]
;W[ob]
;B[pc]
;W[pb]
;B[qb]
;W[qc]
;B[qd]
;W[rc]
;B[rb]
;W[rd]
;B[re]
;W[pd]
;B[od]
;W[qe]
;B[pe]
;W[sb]
;B[ra]
;W[pa]
;B[nb]
;W[mb]
;B[na]
;W[ma]
;B[qd]
;W[lc]
;B[ld]
;W[kb]
;B[jc]
;W[ka]
;B[ke]
;W[jf]
(;B[jd]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: i spent a lot of time reading here, just for amusement this was one way:
RubberDuck [5d\]: the jist is, i dont mind white living small at the top if i get a decent attack in the centre
])
(;B[jg]
;W[kf]
;B[jd])))
(;W[lc]
;B[lb])
(;W[md]
;B[nb]
;W[mc]
;B[mb]C[liyue [-\]: still quite comfortable for b
]))
(;B[ld]
;W[le]
;B[md]C[liyue [-\]: what if b counterattacks..
]
;W[nd]
;B[me]
;W[od]
;B[pd]
;W[ne]
;B[lf]
;W[pc]C[liyue [-\]: the corner is huge
])
(;B[nd]
(;W[mc]
;B[ld]
;W[le]
;B[md]C[liyue [-\]: w w can't cut b like this
])
(;W[lc]
;B[lb]
;W[mc]
;B[hb]
;W[gb]
;B[ob]C[liyue [-\]: would look kind of pointless for w, if b just make life
]))
(;B[ob]C[liyue [-\]: if b simpy extend
]))
(;W[mc]C[liyue [-\]: maybe w is thinking about the invasion...
]
;B[lc]
;W[md]
;B[ld]
;W[le]
;B[mb]
;W[nb]
;B[lb]
;W[nc]
;B[me]C[liyue [-\]: would be an overplay now, but maybe in future
]))
(;W[hg]
;B[ig]
;W[ij]C[liyue [-\]: i still think...w can be attacking b instead of running with it
]
;B[ji]
;W[md]
;B[lc]
(;W[mg])
(;W[lh]LB[hf:B][fg:A]C[liyue [-\]: b has bad ajis in the upper side
liyue [-\]: and the shape isn't so good inthe left side
])))
(;W[ih]
;B[jg]
;W[md]
;B[lc]
;W[mf]
;B[mc]
;W[mh]C[liyue [-\]: w has sentes in the upper side
RubberDuck [5d\]: li found a better way, cos the top side cant be invaded, better use the kikashis available,
RubberDuck [5d\]: like this white uis at least trying to get ahead in the centre
]))
(;W[kd]
;B[jb]
(;W[jg])
(;W[ih]C[liyue [-\]: or even j12..b is one step behind now
])))
(;B[gg]
;W[je]
;B[kc]C[liyue [-\]: if b jumps, w still have to extend
]
;W[jh]
;B[gi]C[liyue [-\]: now b has faster speed
]))
(;W[fc]
;B[kd]
;W[if]
;B[gg]
;W[ih]C[liyue [-\]: hmm...the connection doesn't look necessary
liyue [-\]: after the exchange with f17 w has no more worry in the corner
]))
(;B[hf]
;W[je]
;B[kc]
(;W[jg]
;B[hh]LB[fc:A]C[liyue [-\]: this fight...
liyue [-\]: w is a bit impatient
liyue [-\]: to create a weak group in the center
liyue [-\]: and leave a weakness in the upper side
])
(;W[kd]
;B[jb]
;W[md]
;B[lc]
;W[mf]
;B[ld]
;W[le]
;B[ne]
;W[me]
;B[nc]
;W[fd]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: something like this, white needs moves both sides so has to patch a bit
])))
(;B[he]
;W[hc]
;B[ic]C[liyue [-\]: now b still will block, the the push at h15 isn't necessary
]
;W[ge]
;B[hf]
;W[fd]C[liyue [-\]: and now
liyue [-\]: wouldn't be so comfortable for w to kill this one stone
liyue [-\]: because the stone at h14 would matter a lot in the center
])
(;B[hc]
;W[he]
;B[ic]
;W[fd]C[liyue [-\]: doesn't work to atari from the upper side
]))
(;W[fd]
;B[ge]
;W[hc]
;B[ic]C[liyue [-\]: seems better
]
;W[oq]C[liyue [-\]: i still think the fight isn't necessary :)
liyue [-\]: maybe w should just take the sente, now there is a very comfortable move in the lower side
]))
(;B[he]C[liyue [-\]: this is more often seen to respond such approach
liyue [-\]: to defend the upper side and not strengthen w's corner
]))
(;B[fc]C[liyue [-\]: i still would like to approach first..
]
;W[cf]
;B[oc]
;W[kc]
;B[jc]
;W[kd]
;B[jf]
;W[nc]
;B[nd]
;W[mb]
;B[ob]
;W[md]
;B[me]
;W[le]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: me to f17 before p17.
RubberDuck [5d\]: but now white knows where to invader, and c14 is doijng lots of work
]))
(;W[nc]
;B[pc]
;W[kc]
;B[jc]
;W[kd]
;B[jf]
;W[ne]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[cf]C[RubberDuck [5d\]: something like this leaves white a bit cramped everywhere
]))
