(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[10800]OT[10/600 Canadian]
GN[British Championship]PW[M Macfadyen]PB[H Wang]WR[6d]BR[5d]DT[2008-08-31]RO[Game Two]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Rolin [2d?\]: good morning all. ; )
BGAadmin [-\]: This game has been delayed for about an hour because Hui Wang has met traffic jams on the way down to Cambridge.
BGAadmin [-\]: Please see my info for details of the game.
Javaness [-\]: aww
dch888 [11k\]: Is the commentary here on in another session?
maproomad [-\]: the commentary will be in a clone of this game, belonging to liyue
BGAadmin [-\]: I will announce when Hui arrives.
dch888 [11k\]: thx
twillo [3d?\]: Morning all
toadwarble [8k\]: Hi guys
twillo [3d?\]: Hui has arrived
twillo [3d?\]: They are sitting down to play in the very imminent future
toadwarble [8k\]: Where is it being held?
Tamsin [1k\]: any video feed?
BGAadmin [-\]: Game starts in 3 minutes
twillo [3d?\]: It will be recorded from Black's perspective
twillo [3d?\]: Begin!
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;B[pd]
;W[ec]
;B[pp]
;W[cq]C[BGAadmin [-\]: why not san ran sei?
toadwarble [8k\]: Is the clone being set up?
BGAadmin [-\]: i believe so
twillo [3d?\]: Matthew is wearing snakes & ladders socks, not traditional skull & crossbones
toadwarble [8k\]: He might as well resign now then
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;B[cj]C[Javaness [-\]: Liyue will comment the game in her demo
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;W[qn]C[Uberdude [2d\]: left side is an odd shape
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;B[ql]
;W[pl]
;B[pk]
;W[ol]
;B[qm]
;W[pn]
;B[nq]
;W[rn]
;B[qj]
;W[qq]
;B[qp]
;W[rp]
;B[pq]
;W[qr]C[twillo [3d?\]: Matthew just checked the game wasn't going too fast for Geoff
BGAadmin [-\]: Geoff still awake!
Uberdude [2d\]: I prefer white already, o3 too soft
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;B[kq]C[BGAadmin [-\]: was the black pincer r8 good
twillo [3d?\]: so so
Tamsin [1k\]: li yue seemed to like a fast move such as c16
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;W[nc]
;B[pf]
;W[cf]C[Uberdude [2d\]: here comes the MM trademark funny shimari
twillo [3d?\]: bucko taught him everything he knows
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;B[ro]
;W[sq]
;B[pm]C[twillo [3d?\]: Hui sighs despairingly
toadwarble [8k\]: How's time going?
twillo [3d?\]: aproximately 60s/m
toadwarble [8k\]: very helpful I didn't know that
twillo [3d?\]: well only approximately due to relativistic effects
toadwarble [8k\]: They don't seem to be moving very fast so I should have thought the approximation was good
twillo [3d?\]: :-)
BGAadmin [-\]: Black 20 min, W 15 min and counting
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;W[om]
;B[on]
;W[rk]
;B[qk]
;W[mm]
;B[nn]
;W[mk]
;B[qo]
;W[so]
;B[pr]
;W[rr]
;B[dn]
;W[ep]
;B[de]C[twillo [3d?\]: Matthew considered this to be a 6 banana game
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;W[df]
;B[ee]
;W[ce]C[toadwarble [8k\]: Is banana a new rating system to replace K and D?
toadwarble [8k\]: I think I'm about 22banana
twillo [3d?\]: No - it defines length and difficulty - you would be a no banana
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;B[ef]C[twillo [3d?\]: whereas a pro would be top banana
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;W[dd]C[toadwarble [8k\]: Surely I've climbed from the miry pit of no bananadom?
BGAadmin [-\]: i notice that whenever one plays with slate and shell, white always checks for the grain
BGAadmin [-\]: does this mean that its distracting?
twillo [3d?\]: White stones are much nicer than black
Tamsin [1k\]: you should put the grain side up
BGAadmin [-\]: he does, but it takes time to check
twillo [3d?\]: aren't both sides grainy?
Tamsin [1k\]: no, only one side
BGAadmin [-\]: no - never
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;B[fc]C[Tamsin [1k\]: hmm, having said that...I have one here that has a bit of grain on the reverse side
]
;W[fd]C[BGAadmin [-\]: maybe its a question of quality.
aitkensam [4d\]: seems like Hui is maybe not used to matthew's crazy shimari's yet
Tamsin [1k\]: yes, I bought mine at a recycled shop - so I doubt that it`s `top banana`
toadwarble [8k\]: Is anyone?
Uberdude [2d\]: sam have you played against them?
twillo [3d?\]: is that a shop that used to be a very large drinks can
aitkensam [4d\]: once or twice
twillo [3d?\]: :)
]
;B[ed]
;W[dc]C[aitkensam [4d\]: i like D17 as an invasion
Uberdude [2d\]: what did you do?
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;B[gc]C[Tamsin [1k\]: plastic bag actually Will...
aitkensam [4d\]: can revert it to a 4-4 joseki. I know Matthew wouldnt like joseki so thats  why i do it :p
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;W[gd]
;B[hd]C[Uberdude [2d\]: when i played bucko i jsut let him complete it and destroyed him on the rest of the board =)
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;W[ge]C[twillo [3d?\]: uber is too stong
Uberdude [2d\]: but i couldn't use that avoidance tactic on matthew :p
aitkensam [4d\]: i think Matthew will be very happy with this fight
aitkensam [4d\]: this game is giving him much more freedom to play fun moves than the last one
Uberdude [2d\]: yes d15 makes a heavy group
Uberdude [2d\]: w big corner and a fun fight
]
;B[eg]
;W[hc]C[aitkensam [4d\]: hmm, can he cut already
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;B[hb]
;W[ic]
;B[ib]C[aitkensam [4d\]: apparently so :-)
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;W[jc]
;B[jb]C[BGAadmin [-\]: matthew now in deep thought
BGAadmin [-\]: hui sits upright and calm
twillo [3d?\]: Geoff looks puzzled
BGAadmin [-\]: only because will is typing loudly!
Uberdude [2d\]: is this game being played in cambridge?
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;W[eb]C[BGAadmin [-\]: yes at geoff's place
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;B[kc]
;W[gb]C[Uberdude [2d\]: so is cb1 on?
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;B[jd]
;W[fb]
;B[gc]C[twillo [3d?\]: mhmm
BGAadmin [-\]: to explain, I am recording on the laptop
Tamsin [1k\]: what time are you breaking for lunch?
BGAadmin [-\]: will is sitting near observing on the desktop
BGAadmin [-\]: should be at 1 pm
Tamsin [1k\]: thanks
]
;W[cl]
;B[dl]C[BGAadmin [-\]: hui is now sighing a bit
Javaness [-\]: what is for lunch?
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;W[cm]
;B[dm]
;W[cn]C[twillo [3d?\]: Italian
BGAadmin [-\]: simon mader will take us to a pub near by
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;B[do]C[BGAadmin [-\]: he will then record the afternoon session
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;W[co]
;B[dp]
;W[dq]C[BGAadmin [-\]: will then does the final session
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;B[cp]
;W[bp]
;B[bo]
;W[bq]
;B[ck]
;W[bm]C[twillo [3d?\]: Matthew laughed and said "that appears to be correct"
aitkensam [4d\]: hehe, the prettiest move
Javaness [-\]: tell him to be quiet
Uberdude [2d\]: double empty trinagle ftw!
Uberdude [2d\]: p17 now?
BGAadmin [-\]: i wonder what his reaction would be if i did that?
twillo [3d?\]: He would look apologetic and become dull
BGAadmin [-\]: i can't imagine that!
aitkensam [4d\]: P17 seems important indeed
BGAadmin [-\]: p17 looks slow - doesn't b want use the wall to attack whites central group?
aitkensam [4d\]: maybe if P17 he can make a splitting attack though (if matthew answers).
aitkensam [4d\]: either way its massive for points and b has not so many of those
Uberdude [2d\]: yeah w probably won't extend
Uberdude [2d\]: might 3-3
Uberdude [2d\]: but if o17 gets stronger then k18 gorup weaker
Uberdude [2d\]: if w gets to q17  though...or might 30
Uberdude [2d\]: 3-3
BGAadmin [-\]: kirsty is back from shopping
BGAadmin [-\]: will is not looking at his chat tab
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;B[hg]C[aitkensam [4d\]: this seems a bit random
aitkensam [4d\]: b wants points in the centre?
BGAadmin [-\]: so is hui agreeing with me to start moving on the centre white group?
Uberdude [2d\]: w k8 
aitkensam [4d\]: w Q17
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;W[if]C[Uberdude [2d\]: would make a nice shape and reduce this centre
aitkensam [4d\]: lol, we losre
Uberdude [2d\]: yes or q17 is simple cash
]
;B[oc]
;W[di]C[aitkensam [4d\]: hmm matthew isnt done fighting it seems
Uberdude [2d\]: this exaplins j14
Uberdude [2d\]: e13 are such junk stones, al cos of d15
twillo [3d?\]: Geoff is writing a kifu for the sealed move
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;B[al]
;W[ao]C[BGAadmin [-\]: no - i will print a game record
BGAadmin [-\]: then you can just mark the spot!
aitkensam [4d\]: hmm, will being given responsibility :s sounds risky...
Uberdude [2d\]: d11 attack too early like n17 in last game?
twillo [3d?\]: hey - the BO went ok...
aitkensam [4d\]: :-)
BGAadmin [-\]: whats BO?
aitkensam [4d\]: i think he means british open
BGAadmin [-\]: yes the BO was good
BGAadmin [-\]: but that was 2 years ago
twillo [3d?\]: I have got less competent since then
BGAadmin [-\]: w 40 min, b 75min used time
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;B[ej]C[twillo [3d?\]: Lunch is at 1pm
aitkensam [4d\]: thats 25 minutes for those not in uk
twillo [3d?\]: and those in UK too
BGAadmin [-\]: where does 25 come from?
Uberdude [2d\]: what about those orbiting the earth at near light speed?
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;W[ei]C[twillo [3d?\]: how near?
Uberdude [2d\]: 0.97
twillo [3d?\]: longer for them
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;B[ci]
;W[dh]
;B[fj]
;W[fi]
;B[gi]
;W[gj]C[BGAadmin [-\]: we will stop for lunch at 13:00 local time
Tamsin [1k\]: when will you resume?
BGAadmin [-\]: at 14:00
Tamsin [1k\]: right oh
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;B[hi]
;W[gk]
;B[ij]C[aitkensam [4d\]: D10...?
twillo [3d?\]: would make sense
twillo [3d?\]: b want to kill
aitkensam [4d\]: seems a dangerous plan
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;W[dj]
;B[dk]
;W[fl]
;B[fn]C[Javaness [-\]: doesn't black want to switch down to G3 or something?
Javaness [-\]: or do you mean kill N9
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;W[ek]
;B[mi]C[aitkensam [4d\]: thats quite a claim
Tamsin [1k\]: I don`t understand F8. If White was going to capture anyway, why force Black to take a good point on F6 first?
twillo [3d?\]: e8 sente?
aitkensam [4d\]: i think w hoped b would connect maybe?
twillo [3d?\]: *f
Tamsin [1k\]: I see, but it still looks like Black got a move for free
aitkensam [4d\]: yes, i  think he did too
twillo [3d?\]: not free - maybe cheap :)
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;W[fc]C[aitkensam [4d\]: hehe
aitkensam [4d\]: next move is sealed?
twillo [3d?\]: indeed
twillo [3d?\]: being printed off
Uberdude [2d\]: hard for b to kill
Uberdude [2d\]: he has weak groups
aitkensam [4d\]: hmm quite a fun time for a sealed move
aitkensam [4d\]: it could be anywhere
twillo [3d?\]: move is sealed, we are about to go for lunch
twillo [3d?\]: back in an hour or so
BGAadmin [-\]: hui has now sealed the move.
BGAadmin [-\]: we are going to lunch
BGAadmin [-\]: back at around 14:00
glue [-\]: Next move is sealed for lunch, see you at around <gmt>2008-08-31 13:00</gmt>
Javaness [-\]: hi oysy
Nyrckes [1k\]: ?
Warfreak2 [3d\]: yaaay i can speak.
Warfreak2 [3d\]: why will is allowed to speak and i'm not, remains a mystery.
TheChrees [3d?\]: Andrew, you are special in your own way, don't get jealous ^_^
toadwarble [8k\]: Bananas have something to do with it
Sponge7 [3d\]: any more info about the british championship?
HairyPoter [9k?\]: their eating stiff bananas, thats why its broadcasted
HairyPoter [9k?\]: *they're
kodomo [3d\]: isnt Bei Ge current champion?
Uberdude [2d\]: yes, but he is having a baby
Tamsin [1k\]: he is, but apparently he is not defending because he`s going to become a Dad soon
Choppin [2k\]: Also ask yourself why Bobby Fischer did not play Karpov
Choppin [2k\]: for the championship
aitkensam [4d\]: hmm this pub must serve food much more slowly than anticipated ><
Tamsin [1k\]: you expect fast service in Britain?
glue [-\]: please
og [9k\]: maybe it snowed and there is a massive crisis.
BGAadmin [-\]: Hi again
aitkensam [4d\]: welcome back
Javaness [-\]: hello BGAAdmin
Choppin [2k\]: yay
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;B[kf]C[BGAadmin [-\]: The sealed move has been played. 
twillo [3d?\]: we believe it is the sealed move...
BGAadmin [-\]: We are back playing after lunch. Simon taking over from Geoff
aitkensam [4d\]: how was lunch?
twillo [3d?\]: Tasty - MM and HW had the same dish
deft [4d\]: which was?
og [9k\]: revenge
deft [4d\]: best served cold ;)
BGAadmin [-\]: A very difficult to pronounce pasty dish
BGAadmin [-\]: *pasta* even
twillo [3d?\]: it had seafood in
Nyanjilla [-\]: ...so no danger of one of them getting food poisoning...
twillo [3d?\]: so if they are both ill hillarity ensues
Choppin [2k\]: O.o
NoodleMike [13k\]: Who paid? :)
BGAadmin [-\]: If they are both ill MM has the advantage (nearer to the bathroom)
aitkensam [4d\]: so H6?
Southpoint [-\]: ?
huong8008 [5k\]: oh man
huong8008 [5k\]: what a long game
deft [4d\]: hard to tell which is the best point for attack
huong8008 [5k\]: !
themyr0n [2k\]: are these guys professional dans or amateur dans?
og [9k\]: amateur
deft [4d\]: W would like to help the N7 stones
deft [4d\]: and if possible to cut off one of J10s escape routes
Sheogorath [1d\]: Macfadyen looks special a bit strange, excentric
deft [4d\]: that way W can move L13 and attack the B upper left group on a big scale
Midorya [2d\]: h6
deft [4d\]: how is G5?
deft [4d\]: ... or (after reading for a bit), how about starting with K4?
Choppin [2k\]: Li Yue is looking at K4
aitkensam [4d\]: i feel like this game would be much nicer for w if he had L17 instead of E18
twillo [3d?\]: MM "well so many ways to play it"
BGAadmin [-\]: I hope our visitor from Japan watching on the sofa does not snore. It looks like a post lunch nap may occur
Nyanjilla [-\]: ^_^
deft [4d\]: did any of the players have beer for lunch? ^^
Choppin [2k\]: post lunch nap is the most seductive of all naps and sleeps
BGAadmin [-\]: No. Both players stuck to water from the same jug as well as the same meal 
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;W[eo]C[Lynx [2d\]: the good ol' post lunch nap
Uberdude [2d\]: ;osing f10 so bad...
Midorya [2d\]: what is nap?
Warfreak2 [3d\]: perhaps, but w spent two moves capturing when he only needed one
Uberdude [2d\]: a short sleep
NoodleMike [13k\]: midorya: a short skleep
NoodleMike [13k\]: -k
Midorya [2d\]: thanks
Uberdude [2d\]: b has so many unsetttled groups
BGAadmin [-\]: White has used 90 mins, Black 70
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;B[bg]C[Uberdude [2d\]: means can't attack so forcefully
]
;W[ch]
;B[bh]
;W[ni]C[Sponge7 [3d\]: w lost
dch888 [11k\]: Sponge7: it's a bit early for predictions, don't you think?
ujio [12k\]: lidten to the 3dan
ujio [12k\]: lol
Warfreak2 [3d\]: 3d weak
Midorya [2d\]: cut
twillo [3d?\]: herpoid stong?
dch888 [11k\]: 6d > 3d
Warfreak2 [3d\]: herpoid stong
Warfreak2 [3d\]: oh, will, tony thinks my 9d account is you, btw
TheChrees [3d?\]: Warfreak2, you have a 9d account, Oh gosh!
Warfreak2 [3d\]: everyone should have a 9d account
TheChrees [3d?\]: does that make you 6d on average?
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;B[nh]C[twillo [3d?\]: he has k accounts too
Warfreak2 [3d\]: i have one k account, i only play on the right side of the board
Choppin [2k\]: k is a variable, or a constant?
og [9k\]: hahaha
redwood [1d\]: it constantly varies
NoodleMike [13k\]: it's a constant for some of us ;)
Lionking [2d\]: what game is this?
Midorya [2d\]: go
Lionking [2d\]: very funny, i couldn't have wished for any other answer i suppose
Lionking [2d\]: smartass
Lionking [2d\]: so, what game is this?
Javaness [-\]: British Championship Game 2
Lionking [2d\]: Thank you.
Javaness [-\]: watch the language
odolany [6k\]: thank you, sir
winsome2 [3d\]: smart donkey is bad???
Lionking [2d\]: Yes, I apologize to Midorya if I made you feel bad.
Iceborg [5k\]: n12 now?
robertm [2d\]: what was the result of game 1?
BGAadmin [-\]: HW is one game ahead
Modoc [8k\]: mmmmm it may have been othello. 
Modoc [8k\]: that was much funner in my mind
Modoc [8k\]: sorry
winsome2 [3d\]: i think hw will be 2 up soon
robertm [2d\]: b seems to be ahead here too
Choppin [2k\]: ahead by a lot?
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;W[ob]
;B[pb]C[winsome2 [3d\]: weeeeellll w cant make pts in many places now
Lionking [2d\]: going for L16?
Modoc [8k\]: I think W would have to try and kill points at this point
BGAadmin [-\]: MM unsure of how to play this. He picked up and put down stones 4 or 5 times before the last move
winsome2 [3d\]: modoc  you should be modnoc
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;W[oi]C[Choppin [2k\]: black is winning probably because he did his baduk HWs dilligently
Lionking [2d\]: N12?
Modoc [8k\]: winsome2 if you wish you can read my info it will explane much for you.
winsome2 [3d\]: ok
winsome2 [3d\]: but it was a (weak) joke
Modoc [8k\]: yes and weak jokes are my job.
Modoc [8k\]: >.<
Warfreak2 [3d\]: weak like anti-squirrel
winsome2 [3d\]: anti suirr?
Warfreak2 [3d\]: anti squirrel, the opposite of a squirrel.
BGAadmin [-\]: Geoff has finally returned and realised the sealed move was in his pocket
Warfreak2 [3d\]: haha
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;B[qh]C[twillo [3d?\]: it was correct
BGAadmin [-\]: It does match the move played
Warfreak2 [3d\]: so now the game can continue
winsome2 [3d\]: well done all round
]
;W[mh]C[TheChrees [3d?\]: lol
]
;B[li]C[og [9k\]: does the ladder work on o12?
og [9k\]: (i am so kidding.)
winsome2 [3d\]:  if o13 now b has o10
Miria [1d\]: yes it does work
Warfreak2 [3d\]: b had o10 before, too.
Lynx [2d\]: w seems so thin
winsome2 [3d\]: he should eat better
Lynx [2d\]: eat wheaties!
Blitzcore [2k\]: how is the time?
Miria [1d\]: black lost
robertm [2d\]: you have all the time that there is
BGAadmin [-\]: B has 75 mins remaining, W around 100
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;W[jh]C[winsome2 [3d\]: french have only 75 nins in their championship  does this mean french think quicker?
Blitzcore [2k\]: thanks
Lynx [2d\]: Or that they think less.
winsome2 [3d\]: sacre bleu thees ees outrage
TheChrees [3d?\]: je suis etonne.
TheChrees [3d?\]: liek, SRSLY etonne.
winsome2 [3d\]: etonne est ecole francais?
TheChrees [3d?\]: 'etonne' needs an acute :(
huong8008 [5k\]: oh man!
TheChrees [3d?\]: it means 'astonished,' or something similar, IIRC
huong8008 [5k\]: :(
huong8008 [5k\]: 120 moves
huong8008 [5k\]: ??
huong8008 [5k\]: so long
huong8008 [5k\]: !
winsome2 [3d\]: i will search diligently on my (english) keyboard
]
;B[kj]
;W[jk]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: we brits like to pretend we are up there with pros who need 3 hours per game
winsome2 [3d\]: ';,.!"£$%^&*()_+/
NoodleMike [13k\]: it's just so we can go and make a cup of tea without running out of time
winsome2 [3d\]: non pas de acute
Warfreak2 [3d\]: personally an hour and a half is more than enough for the whole of a serious game, for me.
]
;B[nj]C[winsome2 [3d\]: yay
BGAadmin [-\]: Geoff is now bored not recording and is providing the tea and biscuits
twillo [3d?\]: Shortbread
Warfreak2 [3d\]: are you using two clients at once, will
twillo [3d?\]: no... <_<
og [9k\]: bgaadmin is simon, no?
og [9k\]: unless will is simon. i've never seen them in the same room together, so i can't be sure
BGAadmin [-\]: it is. will is close
twillo [3d?\]: you've never seen me...
og [9k\]: exactly.
twillo [3d?\]: so i could be you
winsome2 [3d\]: spooky
og [9k\]: uh-oh. you're right!
Warfreak2 [3d\]: will told me he was recording this game
Defeat [4k\]: what a haircut))
Warfreak2 [3d\]: is will a liar
awu285: 013
awu285: o 13
BGAadmin [-\]: will is going to take over later. To do the end
royu [5d\]: w position looks so bad
pertoskyu [11k?\]: no one could be will except will ! who else would wear a bright guantanamo bay orange boilersuit for a go tournament.?
Warfreak2 [3d\]: ok, i figured it was a before-lunch after-lunch thing
Warfreak2 [3d\]: i would if i had one
Warfreak2 [3d\]: though i don't think they'd let me out to play go, if i was in guantanamo bay
Uberdude [2d\]: they never let you go
BGAadmin [-\]: I was going to take over from geoff before lunch but got a little sidetracked after a birthday party last night
Warfreak2 [3d\]: did you have fun?
BGAadmin [-\]: I would never call Ballare fun!
BGAadmin [-\]: or any other club in Cambridge on a saturday night
Warfreak2 [3d\]: too true
twillo [3d?\]: I would never call it Ballare
Warfreak2 [3d\]: fridays are the good days
twillo [3d?\]: is that LGBT night?
winsome2 [3d\]: when you meet the other russian spies
Warfreak2 [3d\]: no, don't panic is always on a friday afaik
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;W[mj]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: and cellar bar 8 does some psy nights on fridays
Sponge7 [3d\]: hard to believe w is 6dan
BGAadmin [-\]: Not anymore there license is being cut back
Sponge7 [3d\]: b is stronger
]
;B[ig]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: :-o disaster
aitkensam [4d\]: so maybe it is hard to believe b is 5d :p
Warfreak2 [3d\]: maybe we all are just 7d and don't realise it.
robertm [2d\]: psy nights?  Is that where the waitress guesses what you want to order?
Warfreak2 [3d\]: robert, then they float it to your table with telekinesis.
Warfreak2 [3d\]: unfortunately there are no spoons left
winsome2 [3d\]: psycho you choose which knife youre stabbed with
robertm [2d\]: :-)
twillo [3d?\]: WF2 likes spoons
]
;W[kd]
;B[ld]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: psy meaning psychedelic trance, of course.
]
;W[lc]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: fun for a very small part of the family.
]
;B[kb]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: if cellar bar 8 don't do them any more, somewhere else will have to host them.
vavoysh [6k\]: this game is still going on??
twillo [3d?\]: yes...
Javaness [-\]: yes it is
]
;W[pi]C[vavoysh [6k\]: amazing
kiai1 [3d\]: just curious but what is the prize of this tournament?
Nyrckes [1k\]: well atleast title called British champion :)
twillo [3d?\]: 65m B, 85m W remaining
BGAadmin [-\]: Along with the title there is also a very nice Go Ban
Warfreak2 [3d\]: so if you repeatedly win the championship, year after year, then you can amass a plethora of very nice gobans
twillo [3d?\]: you give it back
BGAadmin [-\]: I think it is handed over. Other wise MM would not get through his door
og [9k\]: you mean MM doesn't have a house made of gobans?
pertoskyu [11k?\]: not quite there is only one goban
robertm [2d\]: each slighly different from the others.... Collect them All
twillo [3d?\]: and the go ban is not so good  - the 9-3 point makes an odd sound
robertm [2d\]: Just like happy meal toys
twillo [3d?\]: Happy meals and fun size chocolate is a lie
]
;B[qi]C[robertm [2d\]: yes,  fun sized anything is a lie ;-)
]
;W[jf]
;B[jg]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: why would you ever play the 9-3 point, that's a stupid move.
Warfreak2 [3d\]: except to open with against tony
deft [4d\]: L15 is not quite working
]
;W[ke]
;B[le]
;W[je]C[Zeid [2d\]: j3 getting big
]
;B[hf]
;W[id]C[deft [4d\]: just M14
winsome2 [3d\]: h15 sente
Zeid [2d\]: m14 maybe m18 ?
deft [4d\]: not sente now
Zeid [2d\]: seems a bit dangerous
deft [4d\]: W would answer H15 at M14 capturing two stones
Garp [9k\]: deft: why m14 over M13 ?
winsome2 [3d\]: duh
brane [2d?\]: its sente
deft [4d\]: because of the M18 aji, Garp
deft [4d\]: most solid connection is best
deft [4d\]: zero danger of L13 cut, so M14 is best
Garp [9k\]: deft: thanks. But could o12 needs help too ?
Zeid [2d\]: m14--> m18 what next?
deft [4d\]: yes, but it helps most to make sure W doesn't get a peep like N14
Garp [9k\]: OK, I see now, thanks.
]
;B[nd]C[Zeid [2d\]: oks now b fine
Zeid [2d\]: j3 
deft [4d\]: now there are many possibilities 
twold [3k\]: so w m18 b n18 didn't work for b i suppose?
Zeid [2d\]: np
deft [4d\]: I thought it did, twold
twold [3k\]: well, w cat get out, and both would have about 4 libs, so...
]
;W[ok]
;B[oh]C[goguru: game over
twold [3k\]: probably some aji elsewhere
]
;W[nk]C[Wichmaster [5d\]: its sente
deft [4d\]: B needs Q12?
Wichmaster [5d\]: yes
Garp [9k\]: Wichmaster: does black hopes to prevent group O9 to live?
goguru: b can take H3 or connect E13 - about 12 pts
goguru: w P8 still not alive
deft [4d\]: I think B can omit Q12
twold [3k\]: garp: huh, o9 can't possibly die
Zeid [2d\]: q12, p14
Garp [9k\]: twold: then whi is this play in sente?
Wichmaster [5d\]: m14 l13 n16 n15o15n17 n14 n16 q12
Garp [9k\]: this move I mean
twold [3k\]: you got you answer now ;-)
deft [4d\]: then Q13, Whichmaster - W still can't capture with P13
deft [4d\]: I think B should K10
deft [4d\]: Q12 is passive
Zeid [2d\]: mm wichmaster is right b must awnser
winsome2 [3d\]: if b had ataried at j16 l15 impossible earlier
]
;B[hp]C[Wichmaster [5d\]: white canl13
Wichmaster [5d\]: thenl11
]
;W[ph]
;B[pg]
;W[mg]
;B[nf]
;W[kg]C[Wichmaster [5d\]: game over
gogadget [10k\]: W f13 
]
;B[lf]
;W[ki]C[kiai1 [3d\]: amazing
royu [5d\]: b m12
Wichmaster [5d\]: w l12
deft [4d\]: I think B should have played O13, not O14
royu [5d\]: m12 l12 k10 
deft [4d\]: if W doesn't have a liberty there is no problem
Wichmaster [5d\]: tehnk10
gogadget [10k\]: k11?
liusasori [1k\]: m12 m10 
liusasori [1k\]: m12 m10 m13 k10 
royu [5d\]: m12 m10 m13 k10 l12 
royu [5d\]: m12 l12 k10 
liusasori [1k\]: oops
liusasori [1k\]: sorry
winsome2 [3d\]: yes looks like m12 the move
royu [5d\]: m12 m13 m10 k10 l12 
royu [5d\]: anyways, b is ok
gogadget [10k\]: k11
liusasori [1k\]: b ok mean b ahead
liusasori [1k\]: ?
liusasori [1k\]: big ahead
]
;B[lg]C[royu [5d\]: yeah if b m12 then no problem to win
royu [5d\]: doh
liusasori [1k\]: m12 l12 and ko ?
royu [5d\]: this is I guess ok if b thinks b has more ko
Wichmaster [5d\]: ko is very good for white
]
;W[lh]
;B[kh]C[royu [5d\]: because b can get more if play ko... but if b doesn't have more ko, then huge error
TMark [3d\]: R17
goguru: m12 was better!
deft [4d\]: errr?
GrandYan [1k?\]: Just eat...
twillo [3d?\]: R17 is cute
deft [4d\]: misclick?
]
;W[lj]C[BGAadmin [-\]: no
vavoysh [6k\]: why not fight for the ko?
]
;B[he]C[deft [4d\]: it makes no sense, vavoysh
]
;W[ie]
;B[kg]C[royu [5d\]: why h15 waste threat
vavoysh [6k\]: but he had a chance to kill b's group there, right?
vavoysh [6k\]: so why not take it?
twold [3k\]: killing isn't everything :-)
BGAadmin [-\]: B 42 mins, W 78 mins left
TMark [3d\]: Ask him in the post-game interview :)
aitkensam [4d\]: well w seems to have solved his weak group problem at least
vavoysh [6k\]: i know, but from my view w is behind, so i think that it would hav ebeen worth it
madcow [1d\]: b still leading
winsome2 [3d\]: but is miles behind
pertoskyu [11k?\]: quite different from the previous game
chrpa [1k\]: but black took h4 point
]
;W[iq]C[Seher [?\]: and w has sente
deft [4d\]: OK, B could not fight the ko because of left side group
twold [3k\]: and he's not afraid to use it :-)
royu [5d\]: british 5d = ? conversion to kgs ranks? 
deft [4d\]: so he just admitted he made a big mistake and backed down
Warfreak2 [3d\]: matthew macfadyen is rubberduck 5d on kgs
deft [4d\]: at least this way he still has some chance to win the game
royu [5d\]: thanks Warfreak
royu [5d\]: 5d is pretty weak level! I know firsthand
Warfreak2 [3d\]: yeah
Warfreak2 [3d\]: :-)
winsome2 [3d\]: modesty
aitkensam [4d\]: MM is not an online player though...
Warfreak2 [3d\]: i have a friend in germany who is 5d, i have a respectable record against him
Warfreak2 [3d\]: let me check
deft [4d\]: if B loses this game, M13 will be the losing move
]
;B[fq]C[Malingo [4d\]: mm overplay a lot with rubberduck
Warfreak2 [3d\]: he's sius 5d on kgs, against him i've won 3, lost 3
clearsky [3k?\]: g5
Warfreak2 [3d\]: so 5d weak :-p
royu [5d\]: m13 kind of inexcusable for 5d in slow game I feel... but bigger misreads have happened I suppose
]
;W[go]C[aitkensam [4d\]: when you're in to your 6th hour of go its quite easy to make this kind of error
deft [4d\]: it's kind of inexcusable, but I make inexcusable misreads in almost every game ;)
]
;B[fo]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: maybe the time settings for the championship should be shorter :-p
]
;W[fp]
;B[gp]C[aitkensam [4d\]: or maybe we should just get stronger so we can use it :-)
]
;W[eq]C[royu [5d\]: what's the time setting? 180:00, 100:00/3 ?
Warfreak2 [3d\]: i meant as a temporary measure, until we were strong enough
aitkensam [4d\]: 10/10 is the overtime
twillo [3d?\]: 10 in 10
Warfreak2 [3d\]: 3 hours plus 10 stones in 10 minutes
royu [5d\]: oh thanks
]
;B[ip]C[winsome2 [3d\]: g2 then h6  and  j4 miai i was thinking
twillo [3d?\]: as it says in the rules :)
gogadget [10k\]: f2
clearsky [3k?\]: m3
SiTuLDi [1d\]: m3? oO
clearsky [3k?\]: nvm
]
;W[en]
;B[bf]
;W[be]
;B[af]
;W[jq]
;B[jp]
;W[kr]C[bit007 [5d\]: h2
batgirl [1d\]: yes
royu [5d\]: hehe
Sponge7 [3d\]: w is desperate
Warfreak2 [3d\]: white is so dead, his coffin has biodegraded
batgirl [1d\]: desperate tiger most dangerous
]
;B[hr]C[brane [2d?\]: dont talk nosense
odolany [6k\]: i think it's the time he starts thinking he's playing go
Warfreak2 [3d\]: w no tiger, w squirrel
Blitzcore [2k\]: none of them looking like a tiger
sorminator [3d\]: dunno,macfadyen hair scary like a tiger
clearsky [3k?\]: n3?
Javaness [-\]: you should see his claws
Warfreak2 [3d\]: w wore the wrong socks
Vic [?\]: cant see claws for beard
royu [5d\]: squirrels can be pretty scary
BGAadmin [-\]: the beard has gone
Javaness [-\]: been gone for 5 years
madcow [1d\]: that hair looks like a wig
Vic [?\]: goodness all is lost then
Blitzcore [2k\]: what means wig?
]
;W[lq]
;B[kp]C[winsome2 [3d\]: like samson u think?
BGAadmin [-\]: I won't check during the game
Vic [?\]: fear so
toadwarble [8k\]: the socks were a mistake
]
;W[mq]C[Blitzcore [2k\]: this is really his hair, surely no joke?
BGAadmin [-\]: At 16:15 (BST) B has 32 mins and W 70
winsome2 [3d\]: well noone would wear a syrup like that surely
winsome2 [3d\]: probably hormones
]
;B[nr]C[Sponge7 [3d\]: perhaps he is bald ^^
winsome2 [3d\]: or an accident with a radioactive yak
Blitzcore [2k\]: hormones, from which animal?
deft [4d\]: O2 gives W a chance
Javaness [-\]: well, no sense in having a boring game
aitkensam [4d\]: M5 and N5 both seem not too bad
madcow [1d\]: O4 is shape
aitkensam [4d\]: maybe n5 better
clearsky [3k?\]: o4 n5 imho
deft [4d\]: N5 seems best to me
aitkensam [4d\]: if b cuts w gets ko which is too good for w i think
Wichmaster [5d\]: n2 its sente?
beeko [6k\]: kyus not allowed to talk?
beeko [6k\]: nvm
guest777: if n5 then m5
winsome2 [3d\]: dont think so and  n5 m5 seems enough
Warfreak2 [3d\]: n5 m5 n6 n4 m4 o4 l5 m6 l6 m7 m8 l7 k7 l8 l9 
winsome2 [3d\]: of course kyus can talk
winsome2 [3d\]: its not even compulsory to make sense
Wichmaster [5d\]: after m4 b will m2
guest777: n5 m5 n6 n4 m4 m2 o4 n2
winsome2 [3d\]: yes
aitkensam [4d\]: still it seems w has some chances now
aitkensam [4d\]: more than a few moves ago
guest777: perhaps m5 then fight semeai
Uberdude [2d\]: i wonder if hui has the mental stamina
clearsky [3k?\]: time?
guest777: m5 m4 n4 n5 o5 n6 p5 m6 o4 q5 semeai
twold [3k\]: well, everyone can see that, but what follows next? :-)
Blitzcore [2k\]: well se killed the w lower side already
twold [3k\]: matthew doesn't know yet, it seems
isaka [-\]: se never wrong
]
;W[mo]C[humblepie [?\]: e6 was well timed 
]
;B[mn]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: one of li yue's variations for the semeai, that she rejected, seems to have an approach ko left in it for w
twold [3k\]: ko here?
twold [3k\]: i mean, m6
]
;W[np]
;B[oo]
;W[ln]C[aitkensam [4d\]: hmm that was fast
BGAadmin [-\]: I will now hand over to will for the last part
SiTuLDi [1d\]: can't that be cut ?
SiTuLDi [1d\]: O_o
odolany [6k\]: thx bga
Blitzcore [2k\]: thx
]
;B[lo]
;W[op]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: herpoid stong
BGAadmin [-\]: what you say
Warfreak2 [3d\]: main screen turn on!
Lynx [2d\]: 'ice 'cream
Lynx [2d\]: sandwiches!!!
Warfreak2 [3d\]: i guess will doesn't get to record the game for long
Warfreak2 [3d\]: resign soon
Warfreak2 [3d\]: mmm ice cream sandwiches
mex [6k\]: n4 
Warfreak2 [3d\]: mex unlikely to become british champ
deft [4d\]: mex ^^
mex [6k\]: =_=`
dare [5k\]: s7?
Goleath [2k\]: *hugs mex*
Warfreak2 [3d\]: s7 irrelevant
dare [5k\]: you're irrelevant
Warfreak2 [3d\]: no, just irreverent
Malingo [4d\]: s7 ok
dare [5k\]: HA.
dare [5k\]: FACIAL 3d, facial
Warfreak2 [3d\]: s7 could be a local ko threat if it comes to ko
deft [4d\]: Q5 is straight to the point
dare [5k\]: Macfadyen looks like he's stuck in the 70's
Warfreak2 [3d\]: maybe that's when the photo was taken
royu [5d\]: ach, so many mistakes
Blitzcore [2k\]: the he must be 100 now
]
;B[mr]C[Warfreak2 [3d\]: welcome to england, royu :-)
Warfreak2 [3d\]: will, don't joke like that
Warfreak2 [3d\]: it's not fair
BGAadmin [-\]: :)
BGAadmin [-\]: funny though
isaka [-\]: just q5
dare [5k\]: yep, black seems to have failed
Blitzcore [2k\]: q5 p3 n4 m2 
Javaness [-\]: maybe white will read weakly
Warfreak2 [3d\]: maybe b counted this is enough... is it?
toadwarble [8k\]: Turned us off?
BGAadmin [-\]: 23m B, 50m W
deft [4d\]: it certainly looks like it's enough
royu [5d\]: 9d v 9d game!
Am [5d\]: look like b wins semeai
]
;W[lr]
;B[po]
;W[oq]
;B[or]
;W[ms]
;B[ir]
;W[jr]
;B[ls]C[Am [5d\]: is seki enought for b?
twillo [3d?\]: black has 20 mins before entering overtime
BGAadmin [-\]: w 45
]
;W[ps]
;B[hq]
;W[ks]C[BGAadmin [-\]: sente seki for w?
]
;B[is]C[Javaness [-\]: seems unlikely
]
;W[os]
;B[ns]C[aitkensam [4d\]: hmm ko
]
;W[qs]C[Am [5d\]: bad ko for b
aitkensam [4d\]: hmm b even missed M4 ><
BGAadmin [-\]: too pro
aitkensam [4d\]: how do the players look?
Javaness [-\]: i bet Hui Wang is looking narked
aitkensam [4d\]: yes, i;d imagine so
BGAadmin [-\]: matthew is fidgetting
aitkensam [4d\]: i dont think b has even one threat... whereas left side....
aitkensam [4d\]: oh s7 lol, silly me
]
;B[lp]C[BGAadmin [-\]: thats not a threat
]
;W[nm]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Matthew, "Atari"
Javaness [-\]: how rude
aitkensam [4d\]: hehe there are extra liberties on my board will :-)
aitkensam [4d\]: rude?
Javaness [-\]: you can't say atari :)
aitkensam [4d\]: yes you can :-)
]
;B[ls]
;W[mp]C[BGAadmin [-\]: he just did
BGAadmin [-\]: alex was rude not to last year
aitkensam [4d\]: i wonder if Hui will return the favour with K1
aitkensam [4d\]: maybe S7 now? or is yose too pointless :p
Javaness [-\]: is A6 a threat?
BGAadmin [-\]: not very big ian
aitkensam [4d\]: even if it is w can afford to answer
aitkensam [4d\]: cos he gains threats by answering
Javaness [-\]: well can't see anything else :p
royu [5d\]: maybe c16 is ok threat
BGAadmin [-\]: really?
twillo [3d?\]: Mathew is going for the shortbread again
royu [5d\]: i dunno, watching this game is painful :(
]
;B[rm]
;W[sn]
;B[sm]
;W[sp]C[aitkensam [4d\]: imo b can resign :-(
]
;B[kn]
;W[lm]C[BGAadmin [-\]: :-)
royu [5d\]: oops, I didn't see e10 dead
]
;B[js]
;W[ms]C[Uberdude [2d\]: royu watch 9d vs 9d in egr
BGAadmin [-\]: :-) strong
Uberdude [2d\]: much stronger players
Uberdude [2d\]: us brits are weak
Javaness [-\]: did matthew say atari again?
]
;B[fr]
;W[no]C[BGAadmin [-\]: no
aitkensam [4d\]: wow he picked up those stones quicky
BGAadmin [-\]: yes he did
Klippan [5d\]: with one stroke
BGAadmin [-\]: pro speed pickup
Uberdude [2d\]: it is honte to capture the stones
Uberdude [2d\]: now no more aji
]
;B[gn]C[Uberdude [2d\]: unless b plays q5 vital point
]
;W[am]C[toadwarble [8k\]: Hui Wang owes me for infringement of my "defeat from the jaws of victory" patent
aitkensam [4d\]: is he counting?
]
;B[ae]C[BGAadmin [-\]: matthew is now rocking from side to side
]
;W[bk]
;B[bj]
;W[ai]C[aitkensam [4d\]: gg
BGAadmin [-\]: why? you are enough ahead
BGAadmin [-\]: 10m - 40m
deft [4d\]: A11 = game over
BGAadmin [-\]: B Resigns
BGAadmin [-\]: Matthew wins
])
