(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[10800]OT[10/600 Canadian]
GN[BGA Championship Final (Game 1)]PW[Matthew Macfadyen]PB[Hui Wang]WR[6d]BR[5d]DT[2009-07-25]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[pp]
;W[qd]
;B[dp]
;W[cf]C[liyue [-\]: hi :)
eft [6k\]: hello
eft [6k\]: thanks for comment
liyue [-\]: Good morning everybody :-)
Faux [-\]: Hello, liyue :)
C0nfuseki [4k?\]: Thankyou for brinning us this game. :-)
CookiesX [21k\]: meh im probably way too low skilled to understand this match
CookiesX [21k\]: :|
liyue [-\]: i am very glad to be here to share my opinions about this great game :-)
ben1988 [2k?\]: so am i^^
melvyn900 [?\]: lol
liyue [-\]: as we can see Matthew is playing with his unique style :-)
liyue [-\]: which usually leads to early fight :)
]
(;B[nc]C[liyue [-\]: b o17 instead of closer approach, it is a way to reduce w's moyo smoothly on the top
]
;W[pc]
(;B[jd]C[liyue [-\]: k16 is similar
liyue [-\]: but with faster speed, more chances for w to invade and attack at the same time
]
(;W[dc]
(;B[fc]LB[hc:A][lc:B]C[liyue [-\]: hmm 
liyue [-\]: f17 doesn't look so interesting to me
liyue [-\]: the reason why i don't like f17 is now both the left and right side has invasions
liyue [-\]: hmm
]
(;W[jq]
(;B[gq]C[liyue [-\]: concerning this question about which is better, i wouldn't say there is one choice is better
liyue [-\]: just different style
Javaness [2d\]: why not play R7
]
(;W[mq]LB[qj:A][oq:B]C[liyue [-\]: both w and b tend to be peaceful this morning :-)
ClassicBoy [3d\]: N3 and O3, which is better ?
liyue [-\]: i'd recommend either A or B
]
(;B[ql]C[liyue [-\]: r8 is...uncommon
]
;W[qj]LB[qn:A][qq:B]C[liyue [-\]: r10 is a good point
liyue [-\]: now b had two weaknesses in the corner, the invasion at A and B
]
;B[oq]LB[qn:A]C[liyue [-\]: A is a bit annoying in future
]
(;W[qm]C[liyue [-\]: oh w invaded immediately
liyue [-\]: i doubt whether this is a bit impatient
liyue [-\]: i'd say it is impatient to invade immediately
lemuria [3d\]: maybe w thought that n5 q6 exchange wouldn't be good ?
]
(;B[pl]
;W[rn]C[liyue [-\]: nice move :-)
]
(;B[pm]
;W[pn]C[liyue [-\]: oh, b just let w go home..
]
(;B[rm]
;W[qn]
;B[on]C[liyue [-\]: atari..looks a bit dangerous..
]
(;W[rl]
;B[po]
(;W[sm]
(;B[jo]C[liyue [-\]: ah, attack directly
]
(;W[mn]C[liyue [-\]: looks like a good point..lets see if there any way for b to cut :-)
Javaness [2d\]: Can black switch over to C11 instead of answering white's move at N6
liyue [-\]: good thought
]
(;B[lo]
(;W[mo]
;B[lp]
(;W[mp]
(;B[nm]
;W[nr]C[liyue [-\]: yes..o7 is more reasonable..
liyue [-\]: but then the exhcange at m5 and m4 strengthened w very much..
]
;B[ll]C[liyue [-\]: i agree...
]
(;W[mm]
;B[ml]
;W[nl]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
liyue [-\]: here
]
(;B[om]C[liyue [-\]: o7 is the only move to connect
liyue [-\]: n7 and o8 are tesujis, but it leads to an immediate fight
madcow [1d\]: it doesn't seem that w is getting land out of this, and o11 looks like a target later
]
;W[nk]
;B[pj]
(;W[qk]
;B[pk]C[liyue [-\]: i am not sure if it is necessary for w
]
;W[ni]C[liyue [-\]: as w already took b's territory in the corner quite successfully
]
(;B[qi]
(;W[lj]C[liyue [-\]: w found it is more urgent to strengthen the o11 group..
]
;B[ri]
;W[sk]C[liyue [-\]: i don't quite see why did b make the exchange at p11, it strengthened w in the center
]
(;B[oi]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
]
;W[nh]
;B[sj]
;W[rk]
(;B[nj]
;W[mj]
;B[oj]
(;W[mk]
;B[lh]LB[lh:D][nj:C][pl:A][lo:B]C[liyue [-\]: up to now, it looks like w is dominating the game
liyue [-\]: in my opinion, A and B made the game difficult for b
liyue [-\]: even C and D..
]
(;W[ji]C[liyue [-\]: w decided to respond in the center..
]
;B[km]C[liyue [-\]: though the exchange between m12 and k11 doesn't look good for b to me, as w has more influence towards the center because of it, it can be argued if the response at k11 gave b a chance to defend at l7 
]
;W[ip]C[liyue [-\]: i think now w is leading, not behind in territory, but thicker, and more influence in the centre..
]
(;B[ir]
;W[jr]C[liyue [-\]: hmm...i don't really know what happened, i don't like b's play today :-) not sure if it is a problem of mine or his :-)
]
;B[io]
(;W[hp]
;B[gn]
(;W[ho]
;B[hn]
;W[fp]
;B[fq]
;W[ep]
;B[eq]
;W[fn]C[liyue [-\]: these three moves look crude for w
liyue [-\]: hmm the push at h15 strenghtened g6
]
;B[fm]C[liyue [-\]: then f4 and e4 strengthened the corner..
]
;W[en]
(;B[kj]C[liyue [-\]: oh b cut directly!
]
(;W[ki]
;B[li]C[liyue [-\]: there is not really anything w can do but n11 i think
]
(;W[kg]
;B[lg]C[liyue [-\]: hmmm
maproomad [-\]: would W l8 be good?
liyue [-\]: the exchange at l13...it doesn't looke good for w to me...
]
;W[kk]
;B[jj]
;W[jm]C[liyue [-\]: interesting indeed :-)
]
(;B[ij]
;W[kn]C[liyue [-\]: hmm 
liyue [-\]: now the m8 two stones are lost..
]
(;B[jn]
;W[jl]
;B[ii]C[maproomad [-\]: they will break for lunch in 10 minutes
liyue [-\]: nice.. :-) hungry too
]
(;W[jg]C[maproomad [-\]: The next move will be the sealed move
maproomad [-\]: we won't see any more moves here until after lunch
liyue [-\]: See you all after the lunch break, hope you are enjoying this game :-) have a nice lunch!
maproomad [-\]:  Lunch break will be an hour - play should resume at 14:00
maproomad [-\]: they should resume play in about ten minutes
]
(;B[hg]C[liyue [-\]: back, did everybody have a nice lunch? :-)
maproomad [-\]: yes, good lunch  :)
liyue [-\]: :-)... i still think g8 is really tempting
]
(;W[ke]C[liyue [-\]: w decided to deal with the r13 group first
]
(;B[mf]C[Sweetberry [1d\]: Can black consider not escaping?
]
(;W[kd]
;B[jc]C[liyue [-\]: w is going into b's territory on the top
liyue [-\]: it won't be bad at all if w lives successfully, but after all, a bit risky
Orc [4d\]:  thought white L15 could play at M14?
]
;W[hf]C[liyue [-\]: ah here :-) i was just thinking of it
liyue [-\]: the fight is very complicated, but if w lives without losing anything, w is leading in territory
]
(;B[gf]C[liyue [-\]: hm
]
(;W[kc]C[liyue [-\]: b must strengthen the right side now
]
(;B[og]LB[kb:B][lb:A]C[liyue [-\]: nice shape, with p13 w connected the n14 group to the right side
liyue [-\]: the disadvantage is now A,B are sente for w 
]
(;W[he]C[Javaness [2d\]: liyue, should black try to attack the corner before H17?
]
(;B[dd]C[liyue [-\]: thats your thought :-)
]
;W[cd]
(;B[de]
(;W[cc]
;B[hc]LB[ch:A]C[liyue [-\]: in future, the approach at A is severer 
climbtrees [6k\]: so, with W at C15 B at A is not as severe; why?
Novalys [2k\]: Black cannot possibly win if doesn't kill ?
]
(;W[gg]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
]
(;B[hh]
;W[je]
(;B[fg]
;W[ge]
;B[ff]C[liyue [-\]: hmmm f13 gave b a cutting point at e16
liyue [-\]: better f14 directly
liyue [-\]: because by cutting b, w will be strengthened by b :-)
liyue [-\]: so at the end, it might not be necessary to connect at n16 later
]
(;W[fe]
(;B[ec]
(;W[ed]C[liyue [-\]: hmm here..
liyue [-\]: d14 looks better to me...as b d14 is a sente now
]
;B[db]C[maproomad [-\]: so you think black's top group is safe?
]
;W[cb]C[liyue [-\]: yes..
]
(;B[ib]
(;W[ef]C[liyue [-\]: this is the most secure way i think
]
(;B[eh]
;W[kb]
(;B[id]
;W[gb]
;B[gc]C[liyue [-\]: hmmm
liyue [-\]: but..
]
(;W[gl]
(;B[hl]
;W[hk]
;B[gm]
;W[il]
;B[hm]
(;W[cq]C[liyue [-\]: here..
maproomad [-\]: would c4 have been better than c3?
]
;B[cp]
;W[bp]C[liyue [-\]: why did w turn to the corner..
]
;B[dq]
(;W[br]
;B[cr]
(;W[bq]
(;B[ln]
;W[lm]
(;B[iq]
(;W[cn]C[liyue [-\]: :-)
liyue [-\]: i don't see a way for b to save everything..
Albast [9k\]: is black bottom alive ?
liyue [-\]: b g3 group is alive..yes
]
(;B[jp]
(;W[dm]
;B[gk]C[liyue [-\]: b is connect in the center now..
]
(;W[ik]
(;B[js]
(;W[lr]
;B[hq]C[liyue [-\]: anyway
]
(;W[gj]
;B[gp]
(;W[fh]
;B[gh]
;W[fi]
;B[eg]
;W[df]C[liyue [-\]: well..i don't think there will be any chance for b at this stage...
liyue [-\]: in this game w's been dominating the game from the opening i'd say..
]
;B[ei]LB[gf:E][lh:D][pl:A][qm:4][ln:B][ho:1][lo:C][ep:2][fp:3]C[liyue [-\]: these three points made the game really difficult for b
liyue [-\]: and for w, i'd say 1,2 and 3 are crude move, it made b strong in the center and the corner
liyue [-\]: also, the invasion at 4 is seems a bit strange
liyue [-\]: later in the fight, E also looks like a weak shape for b
]
;W[fk]
;B[dk]
;W[ci]
;B[ch]
;W[bh]
;B[bi]
;W[bj]C[liyue [-\]: tesuji..
]
(;B[cj]
;W[di]C[liyue [-\]: ah nice move
liyue [-\]: :)
maproomad [-\]: Black resigns
liyue [-\]: oh congratulation to Matthew :-)
liyue [-\]: thanks a lot for both Matthew and Hui Wang for the interesting game :-)
liyue [-\]: and thanks a lot for watching, hope you enjoyed the game and commentary!
liyue [-\]: see you next time on 12th September :-)
slappo [?\]: thanks for your comments
gosta [3k\]: thanks
]
;B[dj]
;W[ai])
(;B[cj]
;W[ai]
;B[di]
;W[ek]
;B[bi]
;W[bg]
;B[bk]))
(;W[fh]
;B[gh]
;W[fi]
;B[eg]
;W[df]C[liyue [-\]: b looks hopeless..
]))
(;W[gp]
;B[fk]C[liyue [-\]: now w has the sente
]
;W[hj]
;B[gi]
;W[ej]C[liyue [-\]: b doesn't have enough territory..
]))
(;W[lr]C[liyue [-\]: hmm i am afraid the hane gave w an eye
]))
(;B[lr]
;W[lq]
(;B[kr]
;W[kq]
;B[js]C[liyue [-\]: oh there was an eye! sorry, misread
]
;W[ks]
;B[ls]
;W[mr]
;B[is]
;W[ms])
(;B[hq]
;W[gp]
(;B[kr]
;W[kq]
;B[js]
;W[ks]
;B[ls]
;W[mr]
;B[ks]
;W[ms]
;B[is]
;W[or])
(;B[js]C[liyue [-\]: but..
]
;W[kq]
;B[ks]
;W[mr]
;B[or]C[liyue [-\]: b can hane directly
]))))
(;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[qq]
;B[pq]
;W[qr]
;B[ps]
;W[lq]C[liyue [-\]: w still have to make life
]))
(;W[ek]
(;B[gp]
;W[go]
;B[fo]
;W[eo]
;B[hq]
;W[fo]
(;B[dn]
;W[em]C[liyue [-\]: w can connect
])
(;B[em]
;W[co]
;B[dl]
;W[dk]C[liyue [-\]: doesn't seem to be a way for b
]))
(;B[el]C[liyue [-\]: maybe w doesnt like something like this..
]))
(;W[fi]C[liyue [-\]: maybe attack from afar..
]
;B[dn]
;W[em]C[liyue [-\]: there is no worry for d6
]))
(;B[jp]C[liyue [-\]: if b cuts..
]
;W[ek]C[liyue [-\]: e9 also looks nice
]))
(;W[cn]C[liyue [-\]: looks like a good chance for w..to tenuki
liyue [-\]: and connect b4
]
;B[jp]
;W[ik]C[liyue [-\]: w is alive..
]))
(;B[cn]C[liyue [-\]: b had to jump out..
]))
(;B[cn]C[liyue [-\]: now b's jump will more or less help the center
]
;W[dr]
;B[er]
;W[cs]
;B[gk]C[liyue [-\]: if w lives in the corner
liyue [-\]: g9 is priceless
]))
(;W[bq]))
(;W[cn]
;B[bq]
;W[ek]C[liyue [-\]: hopeless for b..
]))
(;W[fi]C[liyue [-\]: a good point to attack..
]
(;B[fh]
;W[gi]
;B[gh]
(;W[dl])
(;W[dj]C[liyue [-\]: really troublesome for b
]))
(;B[ek]
;W[ei]C[liyue [-\]: looks like one side must die..
]))
(;W[cp]C[liyue [-\]: c4 is a nice move..but the center is really in danger for b
]))
(;B[gm]
;W[hk]C[liyue [-\]: looks better
]))
(;W[da]
(;B[eb]
;W[jb]
;B[hd]
;W[ia]
;B[ha]
;W[hb]C[liyue [-\]: a ko..
])
(;B[fa]C[liyue [-\]: hmm 
liyue [-\]: there is a tesuji
]))
(;W[jb]))
(;B[ea]
(;W[do]
;B[cp]
;W[co]C[liyue [-\]: c5 is huge :)
])
(;W[gl]C[liyue [-\]: the attack is still tempting
])
(;W[gb]
;B[fb]C[liyue [-\]: better..
])))
(;B[cn]C[liyue [-\]: hmm but anyway
liyue [-\]: looks difficult for b
]
;W[gl]
;B[gm]
;W[hk]C[liyue [-\]: if w get the big point at c6
liyue [-\]: g8 would still be a severe attack
]))
(;W[kb]
;B[ea]
;W[gl]C[liyue [-\]: l18 is a sente..then g8 looks severe
]))
(;B[cn]
(;W[jb]
;B[ib]
;W[kb]
;B[gb]
;W[eb]
;B[fb]
;W[da]
;B[gd]C[liyue [-\]: not comfortable but two eyes..
])
(;W[gb]
;B[kb]
;W[lb]
;B[jb]
;W[gc]
;B[mb]C[liyue [-\]: hmm wait..
]
;W[lc]
;B[la]
;W[nd]C[liyue [-\]: w can seal b in even after n18..
]))
(;B[kb]
;W[lb]
;B[jb]
;W[mc]C[liyue [-\]: better to make the exchange before tenuki then..even if it harms o17
]
;B[cn]
;W[eb]
;B[fb]
;W[da]
;B[ha]C[liyue [-\]: then b is alive..
]))
(;W[df]LB[kb:A]C[liyue [-\]: w can connect at d14 now..
liyue [-\]: A is a sente, so w can later cut at o16
liyue [-\]: it has more influence in the left side..
]
;B[cn]C[liyue [-\]: b can tenuki now..c6 is probably the biggest point
]
;W[em]
;B[fl]
(;W[hl])
(;W[el]
;B[fk]
;W[hl]
;B[gl]
;W[cm]C[liyue [-\]: not so comfortable anyway...w can make points in the left side still
])))
(;B[df]
;W[cg]
;B[ed]C[liyue [-\]: still uncomfortable for b..
]
;W[md]C[liyue [-\]: but w is in gote now
Novalys [2k\]: why all these push  from white ? Wouldn't it be better to just N16 to prevent black from getting points in the center ?
]
;B[nd]
;W[ne]
;B[me]
;W[mc]
;B[oe]
;W[nb]C[liyue [-\]: if it goes like this...
liyue [-\]: w has about 45 points
liyue [-\]: b has about the same, 45 points
liyue [-\]: it's b's turn, but the center is a bit weak
]))
(;W[ed]
;B[ec]
;W[fe]C[liyue [-\]: this look fine for w..
]
;B[kb]
;W[lb]
;B[jb]
;W[mc]C[liyue [-\]: b has to make life inside
]))
(;B[ff]C[liyue [-\]: the exchange...hmm difficult to say
liyue [-\]: the exchange at g13 i mean :-)
liyue [-\]: it left b a cutting point..
liyue [-\]: but if it can't be used, w lost a few points
]))
(;B[hh]
;W[je]C[liyue [-\]: w should defend after h12...no?
]
;B[ff]))
(;W[]
;B[ch]
;W[]
;B[be]
;W[ce]
;B[bf]C[liyue [-\]: now b has an attack at b15
])
(;W[md]
;B[nd]
;W[ne]
;B[me]
;W[mc]C[liyue [-\]: there is no way for b..
]
(;B[od]
;W[nb]
;B[ob]
;W[oc]
;B[mb]
;W[na]
;B[ma]
;W[oe]
;B[oa]
;W[nb]
;B[na]
;W[pd]
;B[nb]
;W[lb]C[liyue [-\]: can't cut w..
])
(;B[oe]
;W[nb]C[liyue [-\]: like this...w is leading, both in territory and thickness
liyue [-\]: so if b doesn't kill, i think it is not likely b would have a chance :-)
])))
(;W[ce]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
liyue [-\]: looks better...
liyue [-\]: c17 is better for getting points in the corner
liyue [-\]: but
]
;B[hc]
;W[je]
;B[gg]
;W[ge]
;B[fe]
;W[md]
;B[nd]
;W[ne]
;B[me]
;W[mc]
;B[oe]
;W[nb]C[liyue [-\]: just found out...w can actually connect
]))
(;B[ed]
;W[hc]C[liyue [-\]: i think that's fine for w just kill k17 two stones..
]))
(;B[hc]
(;W[gg]
;B[hh]
;W[ge]
;B[if]
;W[ie]
;B[je]
;W[jf]
;B[ig]
;W[kb]
;B[md]C[liyue [-\]: this way is dangerous for w
])
(;W[ge]
;B[gg]
;W[je]C[liyue [-\]: it is important to keep h15 connected
]
;B[fe]
;W[fd]
;B[gd]
;W[ed]
;B[ef]
;W[kb]
;B[md]
;W[ib]C[liyue [-\]: b is too weak itself to kill w now
])))
(;W[kb]
;B[he]
;W[nd]
;B[md]
;W[ne]
;B[me]
;W[mc]C[liyue [-\]: o17 will be cut if b ignores
]))
(;B[he]
;W[md]C[liyue [-\]: otherwise there is a cutting point
]))
(;W[he]C[liyue [-\]: any special plan? 
]
(;B[hc]
;W[ge]C[liyue [-\]: doesn't the hane just let w go home..
])
(;B[if]
;W[ig]
;B[ie]
;W[hh]
;B[gg]
;W[ih]C[liyue [-\]: maybe cut..
]
;B[gj]
;W[gh]C[liyue [-\]: but now b looks really thin now
liyue [-\]: in the center
])))
(;B[gf]
;W[he]C[liyue [-\]: if b hanes, it look a bit weak  now
]
;B[fe]
;W[kc]
;B[hc]
;W[md]
;B[nd]
;W[me]
;B[ne]
;W[nf]C[liyue [-\]: troublesome for b
])
(;B[gg]C[liyue [-\]: looks better
]
;W[hd]
;B[hc]
;W[je]
;B[gd]
;W[kc]
;B[md]
;W[jb]
;B[ib]
;W[id]
;B[ic]
;W[lb]C[liyue [-\]: there shouldn't be any problem to make life
liyue [-\]: b is too thin to kill
])
(;B[if]
;W[ig]
;B[jf]
;W[kf]
;B[hh]C[liyue [-\]: hmm what about counterattack..
]
;W[je]
;B[ie]
;W[id]
;B[he]
;W[kc]
;B[ib]
;W[kb]
;B[hd]
;W[nd]C[liyue [-\]: overplay for b..
]))
(;W[lf]
;B[ng]C[liyue [-\]: w makes an exchange at m14
Orc [4d\]: can white cut at N13?
]))
(;B[mf]C[liyue [-\]: b should probably escape..
]
;W[kd]
;B[jc]
;W[kc]
;B[if]C[liyue [-\]: difficult fight
])
(;B[ng]
;W[kd]
;B[jc]
;W[kc]
;B[me])
(;B[kd]
;W[lf]C[liyue [-\]: it is too big to let w all connect
liyue [-\]: also the trouble is, afterwards b j11 group would appear weak
]))
(;W[gl]
;B[gm]
;W[hk]
;B[em]
;W[cn]
;B[dm]
;W[cp]C[maproomad [-\]: We are wondering if W l13 could have been at l8
])
(;W[lf]
;B[mf]C[liyue [-\]: the hane isn't really a good idea
]
(;W[ke]
;B[ng]C[liyue [-\]: it is like..
])
(;W[mg]
;B[kf]
;W[le]
;B[jh]
;W[kh]
;B[jf]C[liyue [-\]: the cut is not working..
])))
(;B[hg]C[liyue [-\]: hmm i wonder if there is a way out here 
]))
(;W[gl]C[liyue [-\]: maybe attack the g6 first
liyue [-\]: leave the optiones around k13 for later..
]))
(;B[ln]
;W[lm])
(;B[jl]
;W[kl])
(;B[hh]C[liyue [-\]: b will attack k11 severely now
]))
(;B[ii]
;W[jg]
;B[jl]
;W[jk]
;B[ij]
;W[kl]
;B[il]
;W[lm]
(;B[lf]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
liyue [-\]: this doesnt look bad for b
])
(;B[ik]
;W[kn]
;B[lf]C[liyue [-\]: but the loss about k5 is big also
]))
(;B[jk]C[liyue [-\]: if b k9..
liyue [-\]: k9 still look more severe..
]
(;W[jl]
(;B[ii]
(;W[jg]
;B[lm]
;W[mi]
;B[il]C[liyue [-\]: w can't counterattack at k8
])
(;W[kn])
(;W[ih]C[liyue [-\]: hmm w can counterattack wit hj12
]
(;B[jh]
;W[kh]
;B[lm])
(;B[hj]
;W[hi]
;B[ij]
;W[kn]
;B[hh]
;W[ig]
;B[gi])))
(;B[ee]
(;W[ii]
;B[ik])
(;W[hj]
;B[ik]
;W[hl]C[Javaness [2d\]: can black switch to something like E15
liyue [-\]: good thought..
liyue [-\]: but b can't make this exchange...
liyue [-\]: the center is way bigger
])))
(;W[kl]
;B[jl]
;W[lk]
;B[lm]
;W[mi]
;B[ii]
;W[jg]
;B[lf]C[liyue [-\]: w has two weak groups
liyue [-\]: look troublesome for w
])
(;W[kn]
;B[jl]
;W[mi]
;B[ii]C[liyue [-\]: almost the same..
])))
(;W[kk]
;B[jj]C[liyue [-\]: l8 is not really good, there is no continuation for w now..
]
;W[jm]
;B[ii]C[liyue [-\]: it doesn't really make a difference
]
;W[kg]C[liyue [-\]: w still has to respond now
]
;B[lg]C[liyue [-\]: goes the same way
]))
(;W[ki]
;B[li]
;W[mi]
;B[kk]
;W[nf]))
(;B[gl]LB[kj:A]C[liyue [-\]: if b simply defends, the k5 is clearly strengthened very much
liyue [-\]: and the weakenss at A is emerged after the h6 group became thick..
]))
(;W[fo]C[liyue [-\]: i would probably keep cutting if i were w..
Javaness [2d\]: is it too soon to play C3?
]
;B[gp]
;W[go]
;B[ho]C[liyue [-\]: is w worried about the cut..
]
;W[fn]
;B[gm]
;W[fm]
;B[gl]
;W[eq]C[liyue [-\]: doesn't look so good for b...
])
(;W[cq]C[liyue [-\]: yes..it is too early, w would strengthen b so much
]))
(;W[hp]LB[ir:A][jr:B]C[liyue [-\]: the exchange at A helped w with eye shape
]
;B[gn]C[liyue [-\]: if b plans to tenuki now
]
;W[hr]C[liyue [-\]: if w every plays h2 now..
]))
(;B[hn]C[liyue [-\]: i'd prefer to get out as k5 group really look weak..
]
;W[hr]
;B[hq]
;W[ir]
;B[gr]C[liyue [-\]: i would never make the exchange at j2 instead of h3...
liyue [-\]: i meant w would never* sorry
liyue [-\]: ah...b would never* :-)
]))
(;W[jj]C[liyue [-\]: here...i don't really see b's point
liyue [-\]: if w simply jump out
]
;B[km]
;W[ip]C[liyue [-\]: b must defend..then the exchange at m12 looks a bit meaningless, doesn't really help b
])
(;W[kn]C[liyue [-\]: maybe w is thinking about counterattack..
]
(;B[jl]
;W[jn]C[liyue [-\]: doesn't seem like b has any good attack to the m10 group
])
(;B[kk]C[liyue [-\]: maybe l9 puts more pressure on w? :-)
]
;W[kj]
;B[ln]
;W[lm]
;B[km]
;W[jm]
;B[kl]
;W[jn]C[liyue [-\]: still b looks broken..
])))
(;W[mk]
;B[lh]C[liyue [-\]: is this what b aims at? :-/
]))
(;B[km]C[liyue [-\]: i'd say, instead of attacking, it is more reasonable to defend the weakness of b its own
]))
(;B[or]C[liyue [-\]: more practical, and more threatens on w o2 group
])
(;B[rp]C[liyue [-\]: also..
])
(;B[oh]
;W[nh]
;B[og]C[liyue [-\]: or..if b wants to defend, p12 looks better
liyue [-\]: b is out now
]))
(;W[ip]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
liyue [-\]: maybe still j4 now
liyue [-\]: and attack the k5 whole group :)
]))
(;B[qi]C[liyue [-\]: this is a good point
liyue [-\]: the cut is not working..
]
(;W[pi]
;B[ri]
;W[rj]
;B[sj]
;W[rk]
;B[oi]
;W[ph]
;B[oh])
(;W[kn]C[liyue [-\]: maybe turn to the other side
])))
(;W[kn]C[liyue [-\]: i assume w will keep cutting at l6 :-)
]
;B[jp]
;W[km]))
(;B[nk]C[liyue [-\]: if b captures
]
;W[oo]
;B[ol]
;W[op]C[liyue [-\]: w can cut it
]
;B[pq]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]
;W[qp]
;B[qq]
;W[or]C[liyue [-\]: the corner will die...
]))
(;W[ip]LB[km:A][qq:B]C[liyue [-\]: a good point, to get out from the other side
liyue [-\]: leave b the cutting point at A
liyue [-\]: even afterwards, the threaten at B for the whole group
liyue [-\]: i would say the cut is a bit impatient
liyue [-\]: probably more reasonable to settle down first and leave b with his weaknesses..
]))
(;B[kr]C[liyue [-\]: b l2 is slightly better..
]
;W[nr]C[liyue [-\]: but o2 is still a sente..
]
;B[lr]
(;W[om]
;B[nm]
;W[oo]
;B[ol]
(;W[op]
;B[or]C[liyue [-\]: this way is probably a bit risky for w
])
(;W[nn]
;B[or]
;W[om]C[liyue [-\]: but a ko is too heavy for b..
]))
(;W[oo]
;B[no]
;W[om]
;B[op]
;W[nm]
;B[or]C[liyue [-\]: really strong for w..
])))
(;W[mp]))
(;W[mo]C[liyue [-\]: here...
liyue [-\]: hmm this exchange will strengthen w
]
;B[lp]
;W[mp]
;B[lq]
;W[lr]
;B[kr]
;W[nr]
;B[ls]
;W[mr]
;B[kq]
;W[om]C[liyue [-\]: b can't capture k3 like this
liyue [-\]: the corner is too weak
]))
(;B[kp]
(;W[lq]
;B[mo]
;W[no]
;B[mp]
;W[np]
;B[nq]C[liyue [-\]: b would be able to cut like this..
liyue [-\]: but..
])
(;W[no]
(;B[oo]
;W[lq]C[liyue [-\]: w can always make an exchange in the right side
])
(;B[kq]
;W[oo]C[liyue [-\]: this will be an exchange
liyue [-\]: but the cut at o5 is far bigger than k3
]
;B[rp]
;W[om])))
(;B[ck]
;W[qq]C[liyue [-\]: but the r3 is really big now
liyue [-\]: after it, b's corner group becomes weak
])
(;B[nm]
;W[nr]LB[lo:A][mo:B][no:C][lp:D][mp:E]C[liyue [-\]: more ajis, and optiones :-)
]))
(;W[no]
;B[oo]
;W[lo]C[liyue [-\]: i guess b felt the pressure of the loss of territory in the right side, but w has a flexible shape
liyue [-\]: not so easy to attack it severely
]))
(;B[rp]C[liyue [-\]: b should probably defend the corner..
]))
(;W[rk]C[liyue [-\]: i'd say s9 is slightly better
liyue [-\]: it is much stronger in the upper right side
]
;B[ro]C[liyue [-\]: the exchange at s7 is meaningless...
liyue [-\]: for b
]))
(;W[rl]
;B[rk]
;W[sm]
;B[qk]
;W[qq]C[liyue [-\]: the corner is huge
]
;B[oo]LB[om:A]C[liyue [-\]: and b will even end in gote..
liyue [-\]: besides, it is common to peep randomly, but you always lose the posibility to cut in the future..
]
(;W[jo]C[liyue [-\]: b is thick now, but lost the balance in territory
madcow [1d\]: should w peep at o7 first?
])
(;W[nm]
;B[mo]C[liyue [-\]: b will for sure counterattack now
])))
(;B[on]
;W[rl]
;B[po]
;W[qn]
;B[rp]LB[om:A][oo:B]C[liyue [-\]: hmm i'd say this exchange is very well for w
liyue [-\]: taking many points from b's territory
liyue [-\]: leaving two cutting points outside
]
;W[nn]C[liyue [-\]: and in future, this will be uncomfortable for b
]
;B[om]
;W[no]
;B[oo]C[liyue [-\]: bad shape..
]))
(;B[rl]
(;W[qq]
;B[qp]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]
;W[rr]
;B[ro]
;W[sq]C[liyue [-\]: w can at least live comfortably in the corner
])
(;W[on]
;B[pn]
;W[pm]
;B[qn]C[liyue [-\]: p6 looks easy. but actually a bit risky
]
;W[rm]
;B[om]
;W[ol]
;B[nm]
;W[qp]
;B[po]
;W[ro]
;B[ok]C[liyue [-\]: if w has to strengthen b so much to live in the corner, it is not a good deal
])))
(;B[pm]C[liyue [-\]: i don't think thats w's plan though
liyue [-\]: as i don't see any good response for w now..but let's see Matthew's plan :-)
liyue [-\]: i don't understand what worries b with q7..
]
(;W[qn]
;B[pn]
;W[qo]
;B[po]
;W[rl]
;B[pl]
;W[rk]
;B[qp]C[liyue [-\]: if w takes some points only..it wouldn't  be worth it
liyue [-\]: to make b so strong
])
(;W[pl]C[liyue [-\]: is there any cut
]
;B[qn]
;W[rm]
;B[rl]
;W[rn]
;B[pk]
;W[ol]
;B[qk]
;W[pn]
;B[om]
;W[qo]
;B[on]
;W[qq]C[liyue [-\]: this would be painful for w to live inside the corner after harming the outside very much
])))
(;W[mo]C[liyue [-\]: now for w, n5 would be an option, very solid to defend the lower side
]
;B[pn]C[liyue [-\]: many people might find this exchange good for b
liyue [-\]: but actually, it is an exchange between outside and inside
liyue [-\]: b's move doesn't have many influence or potential benefit
liyue [-\]: while w's n5 strengthenes w in the bottom 
]))
(;B[oq]C[liyue [-\]: now p3 is almost a must
liyue [-\]: to both defend the corner and putting pressure on w
liyue [-\]: this is the most common response :-)
])
(;B[qm]C[liyue [-\]: r7 is a good point to defend the corner usually
liyue [-\]: but now with the threaten of n3 group..
liyue [-\]: i would say r7 has more advantage than r8
]
(;W[pr]C[liyue [-\]: w can at least enter your corner while strengthening n3 group
])
(;W[qq]C[liyue [-\]: or invade the corner in future
])
(;W[qk]
;B[oq]C[liyue [-\]: now w doesn't have a good point to invade the right side 
]))
(;B[qj]C[liyue [-\]: r10 is the idea to give up the corner
]
;W[qq]
;B[qp]
;W[pq]
;B[op]
;W[oq]
;B[np]C[liyue [-\]: if w ever invades the corner, b should have a nice territory in the right side
]))
(;W[mq]C[liyue [-\]: this is a common choice
]
;B[oq]
;W[qj])
(;W[nq]C[liyue [-\]: or o3, with more fighting spirit
]))
(;B[qj]C[liyue [-\]: the right side looks like the place where is big for both
]))
(;W[qn]
;B[nq]
;W[pj]LB[ne:A]C[liyue [-\]: if i was w, i'd choose to develop the right side
liyue [-\]: in future, A is a good point 
]))
(;B[gc]C[liyue [-\]: to play in the upper side, i'd rather to extend a g18 instead
])
(;B[qj]C[liyue [-\]: besides, it is also doubtable if the top is the biggest place
liyue [-\]: r10 is a big point
]
;W[hc]
;B[qf]C[liyue [-\]: if w plays on the top, there is no reason for b to b unhappy to get the whole right side
]))
(;W[dc]C[liyue [-\]: a good point for w now
liyue [-\]: to defend the corner
]))
(;B[kc]C[liyue [-\]: now is is a peaceful opening
]))
(;B[od]
;W[ld]
;B[of]
;W[qf]C[liyue [-\]: this way might lead to a fight in the early stage
]))
