(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[10800]OT[15/300 Canadian]
GN[BGA Championship 2010 - Game 2]PW[Matthew Macfadyen]PB[Vanessa Wong]WR[6d]BR[5d]DT[2010-10-10]EV[British Go Championship]RO[2 (1-0 to Vanessa)]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[pd]
;W[dc]C[liyue [7d?\]: Good morning everybody...
liyue [7d?\]: glad to be here commenting this exicting game :-)
]
;B[qp]
;W[eq]
;B[oq]C[liyue [7d?\]: I can't help noticing that Matthew seems to like 3.5 point to start the opening 
]
(;W[qk]C[liyue [7d?\]: it is like a sign of looking for trouble :-)
liyue [7d?\]: r9 is one space closer to the lower side
]
(;B[qi]
;W[qn]
;B[pm]
;W[qm]
;B[pk]C[liyue [7d?\]: q7 attacks immediately is an interesting idea
]
;W[pl]
;B[ol]C[liyue [7d?\]: means to form a moyo in the upper side
]
(;W[ql]
;B[pj]
;W[oo]C[liyue [7d?\]: p7 is more normal, after killing that stone w would be completely safe
]
(;B[om]C[liyue [7d?\]: now it is a hard decision for w
]
(;W[rp]C[liyue [7d?\]: s4 is a tesuji
]
(;B[rq]
;W[qo]
;B[pp]
;W[on]C[liyue [7d?\]: k17 seems to be the only move now
]
(;B[jc]C[silver2k4 [2d?\]: what is the difference between k16 and k17?
liyue [7d?\]: k17 is more focused on the territory in the upper side
liyue [7d?\]: and k16 emphesis more the influence in the center
liyue [7d?\]: good question
]
(;W[kd]C[liyue [7d?\]: both k16 and k17 are fine, just a matter of perferrance
liyue [7d?\]: l16 invades b's moyo directly, interesting
liyue [7d?\]: but l16 is another style, i wouldn't say it is not good, just leads to an immediate fight
]
(;B[jd]
;W[ke]
;B[je]
;W[kf]
;B[jh]C[Javaness [2d\]: isn't it too soon to play L16?
liyue [7d?\]: k12 looks scary :-)
]
(;W[jf]
;B[if]
;W[kc]
(;B[he]LB[pb:A]C[liyue [7d?\]: maybe w is thinking about a deeper invasion
]
(;W[pb]
;B[oc]
(;W[ob]LB[jb:A]
;B[nc]C[liyue [7d?\]: it looks more secure to make an exchange at A first
]
(;W[nb]
;B[mc]
(;W[qd]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmmm
liyue [7d?\]: w is a bit afraid?
]
(;B[qe]
;W[qc]
;B[mb]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmmm
]
;W[jb]
;B[ib]
;W[lb]
;B[ma]
;W[hb]
(;B[ja]C[liyue [7d?\]: why b perferred a ko?
]
(;W[kh]
;B[ki]C[liyue [7d?\]: l12 is a smart move, making more ko threats in the center before starting the ko
]
;W[ka]
;B[kb]
;W[ji]
;B[ih]
;W[jb]
;B[rd]
;W[pe]
;B[rc]
(;W[pc]
;B[od]
;W[rb]
;B[re]LB[ia:A]C[liyue [7d?\]: the taking at A seems to be the best idea for w now
]
(;W[sb]
;B[kb]
;W[li]
;B[kj]
;W[jb]
;B[na]
;W[oa]
;B[kb]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmm
]
(;W[lj]
(;B[lh]
;W[kg]
;B[mh]
;W[jb]
;B[qa]
;W[ra]
;B[kb]
(;W[lk]
;B[jj]
;W[jb]
;B[qb]
;W[pa]
;B[kb]
;W[ng]
;B[nh]
;W[jb]
;B[qb]
;W[qa]
;B[kb]
(;W[oh]
;B[la]
(;W[oi]
;B[mf]C[liyue [7d?\]: is there a misread from b? b vcan't escape..
liyue [7d?\]: hmm
]
(;W[pf]
;B[lf]
;W[rg]
;B[mm]LB[qg:A]C[liyue [7d?\]: so, exchange at least...
liyue [7d?\]: in future there is some aji at A
]
(;W[nq]
(;B[op]C[liyue [7d?\]: p4 is a crude move usually, b probably wants to get a sente now 
Javaness [2d\]: is D15 good
liyue [7d?\]: d15 is a good point indeed...
]
(;W[mn]
;B[lm]
;W[kl]
;B[qg]
;W[qf]
;B[ln]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmm
liyue [7d?\]: now despites the weakness at s14
liyue [7d?\]: w has around 25 points in the right side
liyue [7d?\]: b has about 35 points + thickness in the upper side
liyue [7d?\]: 15 points in the lower right corner
liyue [7d?\]: b is currently leading in both thickness and territory, but however the board is empty in the left side
]
;W[mo]LB[rf:A]C[liyue [7d?\]: the cut is more severe
]
(;B[qh]C[liyue [7d?\]: it is a pity for b
liyue [7d?\]: leading by quite a lot at the beginning
liyue [7d?\]: i'd say that the fall started from here
]
;W[rf]
;B[pg]
(;W[nf]
(;B[og]
;W[me]
(;B[ne]
;W[of]
;B[le]C[liyue [7d?\]: then this cut turned out not very interesting for b
]
(;W[ni]
(;B[jm]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmmm
]
(;W[ij]
;B[ii]
;W[jl]
;B[il]
;W[ik]C[liyue [7d?\]: b needs to defend the cutting point..
]
;B[jk]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmmm
]
(;W[km]
;B[jn]
;W[kn]
;B[ko]
;W[kk]
;B[ji]
;W[im]
;B[hl]
;W[jo]
;B[in]
;W[lo]
;B[hm]
;W[mi]
;B[mg]
;W[kp]
;B[ce]
;W[cd]
;B[de]
(;W[be]
;B[bf]
;W[bd]
;B[do]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmm
]
(;W[cp]
;B[co]
;W[bp]
;B[eb]C[liyue [7d?\]: it is quite dramatic...
liyue [7d?\]: b was overplaying in the right side when she was leading..
liyue [7d?\]: well..it seems to be the lunch break now..we'll be back in an hour :-)
]
(;W[bg]
;B[cf]
;W[af]
;B[db]
;W[cb]
;B[bi]C[liyue [7d?\]: hi again everybody :-)
]
(;W[cg]
;B[ae]
;W[ad]
;B[dg]
;W[ci]
;B[cj]
;W[dh]
;B[bb]C[liyue [7d?\]: oh b18 looks desparate
]
(;W[ee]
;B[eg]
;W[dd]
;B[df]
(;W[dj]
;B[ck]
;W[ba]
;B[ei]
;W[eh]
;B[]C[liyue [7d?\]: oh b just resigned..
liyue [7d?\]: well...thanks for both the players and BGAadmin to relaying  :-)
liyue [7d?\]: congrats to Matthew for the revange and see you on the 24th for the 3rd game :-)
liyue [7d?\]: thanks for watching, see you then!\\
geoffkanII: Many thanks to liyue for the commentary
])
(;W[dj]
;B[ck]
;W[ca]
;B[bc]
;W[ba]
;B[ab]
;W[eh]
;B[fg]
;W[fj]C[liyue [7d?\]: alive...
]))
(;W[ca]
;B[ba]
;W[ec]
;B[fb]
;W[eg]C[liyue [7d?\]: there is no way to kill w
]))
(;W[ec]
;B[fb]
;W[fc]
;B[gb]
(;W[cg]C[liyue [7d?\]: doesn't look so good for b..
])
(;W[ca]C[liyue [7d?\]: or just defend
]
;B[cg]
;W[fp])))
(;W[ec]
(;B[db]
;W[fb]
;B[cb]
;W[fc]
;B[bc]
;W[ba]
;B[ea]
;W[ca]
;B[ac]
;W[bb]
;B[cc]
;W[dd]C[liyue [7d?\]: b doesn't have enough liberty
])
(;B[fb]
;W[db]
;B[bo]C[liyue [7d?\]: b5 is huge..
]
;W[fp]
;B[fn]
;W[nr]C[liyue [7d?\]: now w is leading a lot
])))
(;W[cp]
;B[co]
;W[bp]
;B[bo]
;W[fp]
;B[fn]
;W[ed]
;B[ee]
;W[nr]))
(;W[dn]C[liyue [7d?\]: the corner is safe, it is huge to reduce the left side while defending the corner
]))
(;W[kk]
;B[ji]
;W[im]
;B[hl]
;W[km]
;B[jn]
;W[kn]
;B[ko]
;W[jo]
;B[in]
;W[lo]
;B[kp]
;W[mg]
;B[lg]
;W[mi]
;B[md]
;W[ok]C[liyue [7d?\]: b is collapsed.
]))
(;W[mi])
(;W[mg]
;B[lg]
;W[mi]
;B[md]
(;W[ok])
(;W[qj]
;B[pi]
;W[ok])))
(;B[nk]C[liyue [7d?\]: then here...it is necessary to defend 
]
;W[il]
;B[jo]C[liyue [7d?\]: a long game
]))
(;W[ni]))
(;B[ne]
;W[of]
;B[le]
;W[nj]
;B[nk]
;W[il]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmm both b m7 and w l8 group will be running
liyue [7d?\]: but w has more influence in the lower side
]))
(;B[og]
;W[me]
;B[le]
;W[ld]
;B[md]
;W[ne]
;B[lg]))
(;W[og]
;B[of]
;W[nj]
;B[nk]
;W[il]))
(;B[rf]
;W[qh]
;B[rh]
;W[pg]
;B[sg]C[liyue [7d?\]: looks more severe
]
;W[ri]
;B[qg]C[liyue [7d?\]: w doesn't have a suitable ko threat
]))
(;W[np]C[liyue [7d?\]: but at the moment the right side is more urgent
liyue [7d?\]: as b n7 group is still not safe..
]
;B[qg]C[liyue [7d?\]: attack?
]))
(;B[nr]
(;W[mr]C[liyue [7d?\]: maybe b doesn't like the double hane
]
;B[np]
;W[mq]
;B[op]C[liyue [7d?\]: but it looks ok for b
liyue [7d?\]: the corner is out
])
(;W[op]
;B[pr]C[liyue [7d?\]: more likely that she doesn't want to keep responding
])))
(;W[]
;B[qg]
;W[qf]
;B[rf]
;W[qh]
;B[rh]
;W[pg]
;B[sg]
;W[ri]
;B[qg]C[liyue [7d?\]: quite severe
]))
(;W[mg]C[liyue [7d?\]: why didn't w push...
liyue [7d?\]: but i really don't see why w wouldn't push, it is quite good for w
]
;B[lg]
;W[lf]))
(;W[ni]C[liyue [7d?\]: interesting...
liyue [7d?\]: w m9 is a very nice move
liyue [7d?\]: w can capture the 3 stones now
]))
(;W[ii]))
(;W[kk]
;B[jj]
;W[jb]
;B[qb]
;W[pa]
;B[kb]
;W[ij]
;B[jk]
;W[jb]C[liyue [7d?\]: hmm the ko threats like j10 hurts very much, as it strengthens b's center very much
]
;B[qb]
;W[qa]
;B[kb]
;W[jl]
;B[ik]
;W[jb]))
(;B[kg]C[liyue [7d?\]: this ko threat hurts...
]
;W[lh]
;B[lg]
;W[jg]
;B[mg]
;W[jb]C[liyue [7d?\]: better to atari from the other side, and leave the l10 2 stones light
]))
(;W[pf]
;B[la]
;W[qg]
;B[rg]
;W[rh]
;B[qh]
;W[rf]
;B[qf]
;W[sg]
;B[pg]
;W[of]
;B[rg]C[liyue [7d?\]: if w threats with q14 it will lead to another ko
liyue [7d?\]: but w still don't have ko threat..
])
(;W[jg]
;B[la]
;W[ig]
;B[hg]
;W[lg]
;B[mh]
;W[lh]
;B[lk]
;W[me]
;B[mf]C[liyue [7d?\]: difficult to live
])
(;W[lg]
;B[lj]
;W[jb]
;B[qa]
;W[ra]
;B[kb]C[liyue [7d?\]: w can't keep responding the corner..
]))
(;W[ia]C[liyue [7d?\]: what if w just give up the corner..
]
;B[qa]
(;W[lh])
(;W[kj]
;B[li]
;W[lh]C[liyue [7d?\]: then fight in the center
]))
(;W[sb]
;B[kb]C[liyue [7d?\]: if w responds..
]
;W[lh]
;B[kj]
;W[jb]
;B[qa]
;W[ra]
;B[kb]C[liyue [7d?\]: b will have so many ko threats in the corner
liyue [7d?\]: and the center will get stronger and stronger
liyue [7d?\]: it looks difficult for w
]))
(;W[rb]
;B[pc]
;W[qb]
;B[qf]
;W[sb]
;B[kb]
;W[li]
;B[kj]
;W[jb]))
(;W[ka]))
(;B[ia]
;W[hd]
;B[ic]
;W[pe]
;B[oe]
;W[pf]
;B[of]
;W[pg]
;B[og]C[liyue [7d?\]: the center is really big
]))
(;B[mb]C[liyue [7d?\]: what if b just make an exchange now..
]
;W[qe]
;B[pe]
;W[qf]
;B[pf]C[liyue [7d?\]: doesn't look bad for b
]))
(;W[lb]C[liyue [7d?\]: now m18 is a good shape
liyue [7d?\]: it seems to me that w should simply connects here
]
;B[mb]
;W[ma]
;B[qc]
;W[jb]
;B[ib]
;W[qb]
;B[rb]C[liyue [7d?\]: however, it doesn't seem to be possible to kill w
]
;W[ia]
;B[hb]
;W[lc]LB[ig:A]C[liyue [7d?\]: w can easily live
liyue [7d?\]: then b k12 wouldn't actually gain anything from this attack
liyue [7d?\]: plus, there is a cutting point, b isn't that strong in the center
])
(;W[mb]
;B[kb]
;W[lb]
;B[jb]
;W[lc]
;B[qc]C[liyue [7d?\]: otherwise b l18 is quite comfortable
]))
(;W[nb]
;B[mb]
;W[lb]
;B[mc]
;W[ma]
;B[qc]
;W[jb]
;B[ib]
;W[qb]
;B[rb]))
(;W[ob]
;B[nb]
;W[nc])
(;W[jb]
;B[ib]
;W[ob]
;B[mc]
;W[nc]
;B[nd]
;W[nb]C[liyue [7d?\]: b can't really cut w
]))
(;W[ig]
;B[jg]
;W[hf]
;B[ie]C[liyue [7d?\]: in the future
liyue [7d?\]: it left w a cutting points
])
(;W[pb]
;B[pc]
;W[ob]
;B[qb]
;W[nd]))
(;B[ig]C[liyue [7d?\]: j13 looks better
]))
(;W[jf]
;B[if]
;W[ig]
;B[jg]
;W[kc]
;B[hf]
;W[nc]C[liyue [7d?\]: w's l15 won't be in danger
liyue [7d?\]: l15 group*
]))
(;B[jd]
(;W[kf]
;B[ke]
;W[le]
;B[je]
;W[mg]
;B[mc]C[liyue [7d?\]: a possibility
])
(;W[ke]
;B[je]
;W[kf]
;B[ig]
;W[kh]
;B[lb]C[liyue [7d?\]: also possible
])))
(;W[de]C[liyue [7d?\]: personally i would first take big points in the left side
liyue [7d?\]: as b does not have a good point to seal the right side at the moment
]))
(;B[jd]C[liyue [7d?\]: is she hesitating between k16 and k17?
]))
(;B[rq]
;W[pp]
;B[qq]
;W[qo]
;B[nq]C[liyue [7d?\]: w's plan, ends up in sente
])
(;B[qq]
;W[qo]C[liyue [7d?\]: probably b will just extend then tenuki
]
;B[jc]C[liyue [7d?\]: the upper side is huge
]))
(;W[qo]C[liyue [7d?\]: r5 is a nice shape but will end up in gote
]))
(;B[om]C[liyue [7d?\]: p5 probably means to give more pressure on the corner
]
;W[qo]
;B[pp]
;W[on]LB[rj:A]C[liyue [7d?\]: but with A, the r5 group might have weakness in the future
]))
(;W[ql]
;B[pj]
;W[om]
;B[nl]
;W[on]
;B[jc]))
(;B[qi]C[liyue [7d?\]: b will probably pincer from the other side now
]
;W[qn]
;B[de])
(;B[qm]TR[qn][qo]C[liyue [7d?\]: as r7 would appear too small
]))
(;W[qj]C[liyue [7d?\]: this is a common move for this opening
]
;B[ql]
;W[qf]
;B[qh]
;W[of]
;B[nc]
;W[rd]
;B[pi]
;W[qc]
;B[kc]C[liyue [7d?\]: a common opening
]))
