(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]
GN[British Title Match - Round 1]PW[Nick Krempel (ndkrempel)]PB[Andrew Kay (warfreak2)]DT[2012-09-08]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[breakfast [3p\]: pls add players names
breakfast [3p\]: and tourn. title
breakfast [3p\]: under options
BGAadmin [-\]: will do
Javaness [3d\]: http://www.gokgs.com/help/faq/events.html
maproomad [-\]: So Nick is to be white
breakfast [3p\]: any info about Matthew? Why he decided to ignore the event?
breakfast [3p\]: was fun to watch his games ....
BGAadmin [-\]: Yes, Nigiri has been done, and Andrew Kay won and took Black.
BGAadmin [-\]: Provisionally stop for lunch at 1pm for an hour**
BGAadmin [-\]: Can I confirm - the sealed move -  can we confirm it should be whoevers move it isimmediately prior to lunch
maproomad [-\]: Matthew just said he wanted to give others a chance this year
maproomad [-\]: though I would have liked to see him play Andrew (Warfreak2)
maproomad [-\]: BGA: yes, at 13:00, you announce "the next move will be the sealed move" and if possible give a diagram of the current position to the player whose move it is
BGAadmin [-\]: The game will be starting in 1 minute
maproomad [-\]: I believe the game is being played in Nick's parents' house, in Camden, London
BGAadmin [-\]: It is
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;B[pp]
;W[pd]
;B[dp]
;W[cd]C[maproomad [-\]: if you get bored with their slow play, please chat to us about who is there, what they are drinking, the weather, etc,
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;B[ed]C[BGAadmin [-\]: :) will do my best, enjoy!
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;W[ec]
;B[fc]
;W[dc]C[breakfast [3p\]: game cloned
breakfast [3p\]: pls join my demo in EGR
breakfast [3p\]: will make voice review
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;B[nc]
;W[qf]C[FreshTooth [3d\]: warfreak is british??
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;B[fd]
;W[cf]
;B[jd]C[BGAadmin [-\]: warfreak2, yes :)
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;W[jq]C[Lesmian [2d\]: i remember Nick playing a very, very slow game against Matthew last year... I wonder if they will reach chuban before 13 :)
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;B[hq]C[Javaness [3d\]: I am amazed they have played so many moves
BGAadmin [-\]: i am tooo :)
BGAadmin [-\]: both thinking now though.....
BGAadmin [-\]: and sipping green tea
Lesmian [2d\]: how much time do they have? 3 hours?
Javaness [3d\]: the only common choice here is O3
HotToTrot [1d\]: i never liked o3
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;W[nq]
;B[lq]C[HotToTrot [1d\]: because of this
BGAadmin [-\]: :)
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;W[no]
;B[qn]
;W[pr]
;B[kp]
;W[qq]
;B[qk]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: very textbook so far
DapperDan [2k\]: i like white better
BGAadmin [-\]: it is 180 minutes each side wit 10 moves in 10 mins byomi (if it gets to that)
Uberdude [3d?\]: k4 next is traditional
HotToTrot [1d\]: sounds about right
Uberdude [3d?\]: f3 is another choice
Uberdude [3d?\]: i saw choi cheolhan do that
HotToTrot [1d\]: i like it
HotToTrot [1d\]: now that u mention it
Uberdude [3d?\]: f3 c3 k4 g4 l6 
Uberdude [3d?\]: and then choi founda  cool tesuji
maproomad [-\]: any view on who has the better position?
Uberdude [3d?\]: even
HotToTrot [1d\]: yea
Uberdude [3d?\]: andrew will be happy
Uberdude [3d?\]: he plays this opening many times
Lothus [2d\]: maybe r9 is the last move before lunch 
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: seems like nick has starting his thinking... 45 mins till next move?
Uberdude [3d?\]: it is only even because w can invade the top shape
Uberdude [3d?\]: and andrew likes it when you invade his positions because you can cock it up
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;W[fq]C[BillyRay: lol custard
maproomad [-\]: how much time has each used?
BGAadmin [-\]: Nick has used 20 mins and Andrew 6 mins
Uberdude [3d?\]: hehe f3
Uberdude [3d?\]: ill show chois tesuji
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;B[fp]C[HotToTrot [1d\]: interesting
Uberdude [3d?\]: f4 is a bit slock form territory point of view
Uberdude [3d?\]: but c14 is low
HotToTrot [1d\]: that was nice suji
BillyRay: will there be a break for lunch ?
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: f4 seems odd...
BGAadmin [-\]: at 12.55pm, it was agreed with the players i would pick a random time between 12.45 and 1pm, so that it would be random who must do the sealed move
BGAadmin [-\]: Aiming for: *** 12.55pm lunch***
BGAadmin [-\]: although when i announce "the next move is the sealed move " at 12.55,  i cannot garanty how long that player will take to  play it... hence approximately 12.55pm
BGAadmin [-\]: :P
Tooveli [5d\]: Is Andrew looking at the board?
Tooveli [5d\]: Is BGAadmin looking at the chat?
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: nick getting slower and slower, five more moves by lunch i guess
Lothus [2d\]: you can describe the room also :)
BGAadmin [-\]: Andrew Kay has a fan he keeps using, incase anyone was interested :)
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;W[ep]
;B[eo]
;W[eq]
;B[gp]
;W[dq]
;B[cp]
;W[cq]C[BGAadmin [-\]: which chat, here  or in main review with breakfast?
BGAadmin [-\]: i can see both chats, but cannot listen
shhh: is it hot in Camden?
Tooveli [5d\]: Nick's parents' house is cool
BGAadmin [-\]: outside yes! beautiful day
BGAadmin [-\]: and yes the house is not hot at all, lovely house :)
Lothus [2d\]: and how they are dressed?
BGAadmin [-\]: beautiful art work everywhere, perfect place to sit for the next 6 - 8 hours :)
Uberdude [3d?\]: playing in the front room?
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;B[bq]
;W[br]
;B[bp]
;W[gr]
;B[dd]C[BGAadmin [-\]: yes :)
BGAadmin [-\]: the dining room at the front
Tooveli [5d\]: I feel Andrew is overly fond of D16 move
Uberdude [3d?\]: yes
Uberdude [3d?\]: i expected him to play there =)
BGAadmin [-\]: im sorry i keep experiencing lag on nicks wifi.... i trust it will be fine, if i disappear do not be alarmed i will be back
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;W[cc]C[juplasiko: d16 seems fine, preparing c12 later. why not play it
Uberdude [3d?\]: because white d15 can be a good answer
BGAadmin [-\]: haha lothus - they are both wearing blue - andrew kay a stripey blue shirt, nick a blue polo...
Tooveli [5d\]: and make left side stronger for White and harder to play for Black
Uberdude [3d?\]: it gives f18 sente, but gains strength on left
Tooveli [5d\]: (As breakfast jsut said)
juplasiko: ok, thx
Tooveli [5d\]: You know breakfast is providing audio commentary right?
juplasiko: no, was not aware. thx for pointing out
Tooveli [5d\]: top of active games tab
Lothus [2d\]: thank you bgaadmin;)
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;B[cg]C[CUSTAAARD [5d\]: wow, what a crazy move
Tooveli [5d\]: boom
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: attach to the strong stones i guess.... :-p
BGAadmin [-\]: i had to do a double take, but this is not a misclick :P
Javaness [3d\]: seems pointless to me
Uberdude [3d?\]: who is bgaadmin?
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: well andrew just thinks he is stronger than nick at fighting i suppose
BGAadmin [-\]: Maria Tabor
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: doesnt want to lose by playing go...
Lothus [2d\]: I like this move 
Tooveli [5d\]: I predict c12 c11 c10 next 3 moves
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: tooveli if that happens i will give you a cookie
Tooveli [5d\]: thx
Uberdude [3d?\]: it looks annoying this move
Uberdude [3d?\]: makes me appreciate breakfasts d15 suggestion
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: interested to see how breakfast thinks to answer this
Tooveli [5d\]: yeah - the move kind of makes sense, but it feels like will be suboptimal if White answers correctly
Uberdude [3d?\]: i wouldn't assume it is a bad move
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: d14 d13 then w play left side?
juplasiko: e6 later for w a vital point, no?
BGAadmin [-\]: Time so far 70 minutes used -  Nick 50 minutes, Andrew 20 minues.
Tooveli [5d\]: next move might add somewhat to that 50
BGAadmin [-\]: :)
BGAadmin [-\]: bit of a surprise this move...
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;W[qj]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: such a troll
Uberdude [3d?\]: i dont like it
BGAadmin [-\]: andrew looks perplexed
Uberdude [3d?\]: make b stronger and r17 open
Tooveli [5d\]: what?
Uberdude [3d?\]: nick trying you play silly attachment so i will too strategy
Tooveli [5d\]: this doesn't seem good at all
Lothus [2d\]: what
Tooveli [5d\]: I am confused
Javaness [3d\]: weak
Lothus [2d\]: nick doesnt think like a breakfast at all :P
BGAadmin [-\]: i wish i could here the voice commentary... im missing out! i think it'd be good right now especially
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;B[bf]C[Cobweb [2d?\]: bring headphones next time, Maria :)
juplasiko: or give earplugs to players so they cannot listen
Tooveli [5d\]: hmmm... didn't get a cookie :(
Tooveli [5d\]: but close
BGAadmin [-\]: ooo i have some in my bag.... good thinking!
juplasiko: hehe
Tooveli [5d\]: bag full of cookies!
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: cookies or headphones?
juplasiko: put cookies in players ears
Tooveli [5d\]: Sometimes you think so long that R10 occurs to you
BGAadmin [-\]: scrap that.. i thought i had headphones.... but i dont... in my other bag... not here... :(
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: feels like this game could go all wrong for nick very quickly.... sad....
teeth [2d\]: what is this?
Lothus [2d\]: not sad,  very happy thing
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;W[ce]C[CUSTAAARD [5d\]: what would b do if w c11 instead of r10?
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;B[rj]C[Tooveli [5d\]: There are variations for that in breakfast's review
Tooveli [5d\]: was good for Black
Tooveli [5d\]: Black just splits and creates moyo on top while corner becomes small and C11 group is weak
Tooveli [5d\]: I think Lothus might be biased
furoncle [2k\]: bftw
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;W[ci]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: this move order is bonkers
Tooveli [5d\]: now we sort of go back to a previous variation that was good for Black except White has made R10/S10 exchange - which seems pretty bad
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: i think this way at least will be a fight
Tooveli [5d\]: are we sure it was green tea?
Uberdude [3d?\]: too much thinking
CUSTAAARD [5d\]: if b play d13 instead of s10 b seems soooo good
Tooveli [5d\]: the green tea we had at the Chinese go club made me see funny colours
Tooveli [5d\]: like R10
Svejk [-\]: R10 isn't that funny a colour - it's chestnut according to google.
BGAadmin [-\]: hehe, i didnt test it.. but pretty sure it was green tea
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;B[dh]C[Tooveli [5d\]: R10 is like a weird purply orange but also very bright black (it's hard to describe) in this game though
Uberdude [3d?\]: kosumi has some shape probs
Tooveli [5d\]: hmm D13 seems better shape
spider451 [1d\]: who is who?
pupukani [1d\]: w is nick krempel and b is andrew kay
spider451 [1d\]: thx
Uberdude [3d?\]: nicks gonna think for ages then play sometihng bad like b12
Lothus [2d\]: i hope so
BGAadmin [-\]: Time used 1 hour 45 mins: Nick 1 hour 15, Andrew 30 minutes 
Tooveli [5d\]: He might think for long enough that K17 starts to glow
tibul3 [3k\]: Andrew using Nicks time to think ^^
Uberdude [3d?\]: just d11
Uberdude [3d?\]: so obiovus
gnarf [1k\]: what are totall thinking time?
Uberdude [3d?\]: 3 hours
gnarf [1k\]: thx
Tooveli [5d\]: Sam Aitken once said to me - I don't really read, I just stare at the board until one of the points seems to glow a little bit.
Uberdude [3d?\]: but occaisonally he does read
Uberdude [3d?\]: and quite well
Tooveli [5d\]: yeah - I think he lied
Uberdude [3d?\]: i probably spend more time regretting my msitakes than reading :p
baguaqueen [4k\]: who is he?
Uberdude [3d?\]: sam?
Uberdude [3d?\]: another young british player
Tooveli [5d\]: "young"
BGAadmin [-\]: :) javaness me too, it's when i pause playing that my opponent usually knows im in trouble.....
Uberdude [3d?\]: 20s
Tooveli [5d\]: I'm pretty sure Javaness didn't say anything...
BGAadmin [-\]: oh uberdude, ... oops.. 
BGAadmin [-\]: i need my glasses 
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;W[dm]C[toadwarble [-\]: Time check?
Tooveli [5d\]: they might be in your bag
BGAadmin [-\]: 1 hour 23 mins used by Nick, and 30.5 mins used by Andrew
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;B[dn]
;W[em]C[Lothus [2d\]: this is really strange
BGAadmin [-\]: strangely enough they are.. glasses check**
Oloril [4k?\]: perhaps warf needs to calm down
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;B[cm]
;W[cl]
;B[bm]C[Oloril [4k?\]: wms should add a way to look at the previous moves in a demo game for the phone app
BGAadmin [-\]: wms?
toadwarble [-\]: william shubert
toadwarble [-\]: KGS author
BGAadmin [-\]: i see,  :)
Malingo [4d\]: why only for phone app?
chibisai [-\]: heja warfreak2 ^^
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;W[di]C[Muttley [2k\]: oloril, clone the game
Muttley [2k\]: simples
Tooveli [5d\]: a wild move appears!
Javaness [3d\]: it's almost as if White planned this move
Muttley [2k\]: D11?
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;B[fh]
;W[ei]C[BGAadmin [-\]: 2 hours 20 mins used: 1 hour 42 mins Nick, 38 mins by Andrew
Tooveli [5d\]: Nick lapped Andrew
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;B[eh]C[BGAadmin [-\]: yep, still time for it to happen again I think :) but then andrew is clearly thinking in nicks time, both seem in deep thought throughout the 2 hours 20 mins so far
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;W[fo]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: seems a bit much without g10 first
BGAadmin [-\]: 18 minutes until I call for the sealed move to be played before breaking for lunch
nzgo [6k\]: this looks nasty for B
Werfeus [4d\]: usually you play the sealed move after lunch
BGAadmin [-\]: i agree with uberdude, feels like somewhere around g10 would of opened up oportunity elsewhere on board, and make f5 more nasty if white got the chance..
nzgo [6k\]: what can B do ?
nzgo [6k\]: W may seize the centre, or most of it, as well as 4 corners
BGAadmin [-\]: :) yes, it will be played after lunch - but i've been asked by the players to randomise who plays it, so they dont know im calling for it to be placed on an empty game record sheet at 12.55pm (they just know somewhere around 1pm), then i will seal it and hold it for the hour lunch break for it to be played on the board on our return :)
BGAadmin [-\]: Andrew is giving it a great deal of thought
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;B[ho]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Time: 1 hour 45 used by Nick, 55 mins by Andrew
spinach: o15
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;W[fn]
;B[bl]C[Tooveli [5d\]: this move could also take a while - lunch may be slightly delayed
BGAadmin [-\]: I just handed Nick the piece of paper to record his next sealed move
BGAadmin [-\]: i'll let you know when he hands it back, then we will break for lunch :)
qgo [3k\]: k4?
spinach: q18 o15 combo black
qgo [3k\]: how long lunchtime?
BGAadmin [-\]: 1 hour, once the piece of paper is handed to me :)
qgo [3k\]: thx
Uberdude [3d?\]: quelle suprise
Uberdude [3d?\]: that it is nick to seal
BGAadmin [-\]: Handed now
waefre [2k?\]: take a peak!
BGAadmin [-\]: lunch break 1 hour from 1pm dead on
BGAadmin [-\]: Nick 2 hours 2 mins, Andrew 58 mins
mof [3k?\]: men lägg... sega engelsmän *muttra muttra*
mof [3k?\]: käka tangentbord, papperskorg!
eve20 [2k\]: testing
mof [3k?\]: what are they having for lunch? fish and chips? :)
chibisai [-\]: lol mof :)
mof [3k?\]: :)
Uberdude [3d?\]: maybe a nice meal cooked my nick's mum (she is a good cook)
Javaness [3d\]: not a lot of territory yet
mof [3k?\]: squirrel is 3 dan :o
BGAadmin [-\]: phew, had huge net problems throughout 30 minutes at lunch - resolved we think :)
Egg [10k\]: what happened to matthew ?
Egg [10k\]: wasn't he the champion for many years ?
Pink [2k\]: what are their ranks?
Egg [10k\]: oh sorry, just checked the site
Uberdude [3d?\]: matthew has retired
mof [3k?\]: white is senechal and black is a sergeant at arms in the order of st. george
mof [3k?\]: but he did play just the other year, no?
Uberdude [3d?\]: andrw is 5d (just promoted, but rating fell recently), nick is 3d (almost 4d)
Uberdude [3d?\]: these are british ranks
Uberdude [3d?\]: in most of europe probably andrew is 4d and nick 3d
mof [3k?\]: matthew had the best beard in all of go
Uberdude [3d?\]: recently he had no beard
Uberdude [3d?\]: maybe that's why he got weaker
mof [3k?\]: I think we have all had that thought :)
Uberdude [3d?\]: yes, matthew retired at start of this year
mof [3k?\]: thanks
Uberdude [3d?\]: he was champion last year, beating nick
nugatory [-\]: where can we see this powerful beard?
Slateshell [?\]: Look up Matthew's picture on the Britgo site
Javaness [3d\]: he shaved it off
isbhal [3d\]: how many time they have ?
nugatory [-\]: a beard is a terrible thing to waste
BGAadmin [-\]: we are back
BGAadmin [-\]: Game to resume now 
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;W[jp]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Andrew opened the sealed move, and it was K4 written by Nick before lunch
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;B[jo]C[Javaness [3d\]: what happens if somebody rotates the board during lunch?
Egg [10k\]: suppose the players have to change chairs ?
BGAadmin [-\]: we made sure the sheet had a top point matching the paper copy i recorded, and so this is ensured it was the same
Caode [11k\]: One flips the board and leaves?
piksieben [8k\]: where is the game taking place?
Egg [10k\]: does white need to cut here ?
BGAadmin [-\]: Camden, London 
Uberdude [3d?\]: hmm w has just made an empty triangle
Uberdude [3d?\]: if now h2
invader [1d\]: J2
Uberdude [3d?\]: yes can connect that way, but lsoes points and shape
invader [1d\]: K2 also connect
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;W[ko]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: same with h2 j2 k2
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;B[jn]C[invader [1d\]: m5 ?
Javaness [3d\]: I predict a riot around F9
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;W[lo]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: m5 seems obvious
Uberdude [3d?\]: but that won't stop nick spending 15 minutes to play it
Lothus [2d\]: h2 now?
Uberdude [3d?\]: oh!
BGAadmin [-\]: hehe
Javaness [3d\]: commence attack
Uberdude [3d?\]: is h2 sente?
Caode [11k\]: I'm sorry, how much time do they have?
Uberdude [3d?\]: maybe g10 or whatever
Uberdude [3d?\]: oh h2 probasbly is sente what with the corner sequence
invader [1d\]: b should try to attack F7
BGAadmin [-\]: Nick has used 2 hours 7 minutes, Andrew has used 1 hour 1min.  It is 3 hours each side, but then players are allowed byomi if they go over there 3 hours.
BGAadmin [-\]: their*
Caode [11k\]: Thank you
Uberdude [3d?\]: i think w profit is not so big
Uberdude [3d?\]: and gote
invader [1d\]: 2 hour for 64 moves ???
Uberdude [3d?\]: no
Uberdude [3d?\]: 32
Lothus [2d\]: for 64 more than 3 hours
invader [1d\]: 3hour and 7 minute for 64 moves
mof [3k?\]: I would agree, it is not certain that it is right to cut
mof [3k?\]: if black can mob the left and we get another gote
mof [3k?\]: then the next black move in the upper right will be big
Lothus [2d\]: this is a time for attack i think
Uberdude [3d?\]: e.g f8
mof [3k?\]: so it was not an easy situation for white
Caode [11k\]: I'd fall asleep if my games too that long. o_o
invader [1d\]: white H2 is BIG ...
invader [1d\]: so it's not small to cut
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;B[gk]C[Lothus [2d\]: h2 looks like a half of pass :P
qgo [3k\]: h7?
invader [1d\]: black H2 white mus respond
invader [1d\]: art of sabaki
Uberdude [3d?\]: did nick look surprised?
Uberdude [3d?\]: he really should have a plan for this group before cutting
BGAadmin [-\]: he didnt actually, he seems surprisingly calm (more so than an hour & half ago)
Caode [11k\]: I want him unnerved. :(
gnarf [1k\]: h7 ?
BGAadmin [-\]: i'll tell you the moment i see a hint of either one being unnerved! :)
qgo [3k\]: h7 looks like vital point
mof [3k?\]: he has had lunch now and a pint of plain probably, of course he is calm
BGAadmin [-\]: andrew keeps nodding/eye glinting like he has a plan i.e setting himself up to attack, and nick seems v.calm but extremely focused - seems like they both have a plan which is promising :)
BGAadmin [-\]: No alcohol allowed at lunch, im a strict ref. 
mof [3k?\]: hehe, ok
simplet [1d\]: hips
qgo [3k\]: doping rules?
simplet [1d\]: sorry
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;W[gj]C[qgo [3k\]: no coffee, no beer, no grass
simplet [1d\]: redbull?
piksieben [8k\]: only tea allowed of course
qgo [3k\]: no advertising pls
BGAadmin [-\]: im not strict enough to dis-allow lucazade
BGAadmin [-\]: sorry
nugatory [-\]: tobacco? player intake rules are now a new fascination
qgo [3k\]: look what happened with Lance Armstrong
qgo [3k\]: even a dope case in paralympics
qgo [3k\]: I wished there was something thats makes you play better
nugatory [-\]: with armstrong?...you mean the disregard for years of negative test results?
nugatory [-\]: there is... "reading" :)
qgo [3k\]: no drug designed yet to make you play better chess or go
simplet [1d\]: enhanced brain soon
Killhim [3k?\]: go is a drug, so take smth else can be overdose
mof [3k?\]: white must have read at least this far, before cutting, thinking about different black attacks
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;B[fj]
;W[fi]
;B[gi]
;W[hj]
;B[ek]C[piksieben [8k\]: there will be blood
Javaness [3d\]: how about black kill white
Caode [11k\]: I'm good with that.
invader [1d\]: no blood on the board
BGAadmin [-\]: I just took 3 photos of how the players look at  this point in time.... they will be published tomorrow evening :)
BGAadmin [-\]: or this evening if i am able to get back online
Javaness [3d\]: how are the clock times now?
Geser [-\]: how strong they are?
Lothus [2d\]: warfreak2 ultrastrong :p
Caode [11k\]: and also has a cheering section. *gets out the pom poms*
BGAadmin [-\]: 1 hours 13 mins by andrew, 2 hours 24 mins by nick.
Javaness [3d\]: great! overtime soon
Lothus [2d\]: not that soon
Caode [11k\]: Two moves away, maybe three.
Lothus [2d\]: its about 10 moves more
Caode [11k\]: pfft, ten.
Javaness [3d\]: i bet on this move
BGAadmin [-\]: It will be interesting to see how nicks game changes when he goes into byomi.
Lothus [2d\]: what is this change like ?
Lothus [2d\]: i dont know him well, but 10 moves per 10 minutes is a lot
BGAadmin [-\]: i just mean, up till now he's used the time.. but i wonder if his game style will change by the change in times... surely it must.. 
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;W[hk]
;B[gl]C[Caode [11k\]: he will start playing shogi.
Tooveli [5d\]: hmm.. AH9 wasn't meant to be sente
Uberdude [3d?\]: huh?!!!
Lothus [2d\]: wow, wat is that
BGAadmin [-\]: ha, andrew is very much thinking in nicks time, that was rapid play...
Uberdude [3d?\]: i tihnk his plan
Uberdude [3d?\]: to the trade
Uberdude [3d?\]: kill the 3 in middle
Uberdude [3d?\]: give f12
Uberdude [3d?\]: and then e9means you have c9 for deserts
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;W[gh]
;B[hi]
;W[gg]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: h14 !
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;B[fg]C[qgo [3k\]: h7!
qgo [3k\]: h6?
waefre [1k?\]: kgs 4d is one of the strongest players in britland?
Uberdude [3d?\]: yes
Uberdude [3d?\]: we are weak
waefre [1k?\]: 4d weak lol
Uberdude [3d?\]: andrew is maybe kgs 5d if he made a new acvcount
waefre [1k?\]: i'd say it is lower on the scale of strong
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;W[ii]
;B[hh]C[basicpract [-\]: sam aitken is 5d as well
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;W[gf]
;B[ih]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: it is weak for top players in country
Chilltime [3d?\]: sam doesnt count :P
Uberdude [3d?\]: huh why did w atari
waefre [1k?\]: always atari
waefre [1k?\]: cardinal rule for ddk
Chilltime [3d?\]: this result looks horrible for me for w
Uberdude [3d?\]: you lose liberties
tibul3 [3k\]: Yeah not looking good for w : /
piksieben [8k\]: this now looks suspiciously like one of my own almost-ddk games
tibul3 [3k\]: Not sure if I'd say DDK, w just played some silly moves it seems ^^
mof [3k?\]: it is very much a brawl
mof [3k?\]: white is in many parts - it will be difficult to fight on all fronts
Lothus [2d\]: how much time has w?
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;W[ff]C[BGAadmin [-\]: White has used 2 hours 55 mins and Black has used 1 hour 17 mins
Nantes [8d\]: c12 only move
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;B[ef]C[Nantes [8d\]: !!
testar: oh no...
slim76 [3d\]: now b13?
Nantes [8d\]: b can still play c12 later I think
BGAadmin [-\]: 2 mins till byomi
Nantes [8d\]: depend of w move
basicpract [-\]: nantes, you should look in the breakfast review. 
BillyRay: score est suggests even if white stones die its still quite even?
BGAadmin [-\]: counting byomi stones
BGAadmin [-\]: nick has 10 mins set on the clock
BGAadmin [-\]: starting now
mof [3k?\]: if b13, maybe black will just forget the side and connect up to e16?
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;W[ee]
;B[ch]C[testar: wow great
Lake [4k\]: 3p says game over for w
piksieben [8k\]: 3p says cut at L5 was big mistake
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;W[df]
;B[bi]
;W[bj]
;B[bh]C[Caode [11k\]: :D
Lothus [2d\]: :)
Lothus [2d\]: \\o/
Caode [11k\]: *\\o/*
Lothus [2d\]: **\\o/**
Javaness [3d\]: Go wf2 Go !
gnarf [1k\]: how many stones for ten m.?
basicpract [-\]: this is where dinerchtein ended his review as "game over for white"
Javaness [3d\]: 10 stones in 10 minutes
BGAadmin [-\]: 10 stones
gnarf [1k\]: thx
Javaness [3d\]: incredibly long byoyomi
BGAadmin [-\]: 7 stones remaining in 6 to play
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;W[ck]C[billywoods [5k\]: how much time is left?
BGAadmin [-\]: 5.5 mins 6 stones
billywoods [5k\]: are they both in byo-yomi? :S
mof [3k?\]: it certainly was a questionable cut
basicpract [-\]: nope
Javaness [3d\]: only white is
billywoods [5k\]: ah that makes sense
BGAadmin [-\]: no only nick
billywoods [5k\]: thanks
invader [1d\]: thinking so long and yet still lost
BGAadmin [-\]: andrew has used 1 hour 18 mins of his 3 hours
billywoods [5k\]: thanks
basicpract [-\]: the fight is not really over yet, who knows what will happen. "winning" in theory and winning in practice are quite different.
sabakusoso [-\]: does the sealed move was the losing move ? :)
Lothus [2d\]: in hearts of kibitzs warfreak2 already won \\o/
sabakusoso [-\]: yes ofc w has to fight un til the end
Javaness [3d\]: black's stones are like a fast flowing river of water, running across the board
sabakusoso [-\]: ...
mof [3k?\]: w had to play an active move or play on the upper probably
nzgo [6k\]: Cor !!!
nzgo [6k\]: regarding the flowing river, that is
billywoods [5k\]: does black have to go back and fix that rubbish at g8? i'm not sure i can read that
Lothus [2d\]: rubbish?:P
Lothus [2d\]: perfectly made stones
billywoods [5k\]: i'm sure they're lovely, but i don't understand them :P
Killhim [3k?\]: better study shape, billy
basicpract [-\]: billyy, they are cutting stones, anf White has teo weak groups on each side :)
billywoods [5k\]: i can see that
billywoods [5k\]: i was asking whether black had to go and fix
Leibnix [4k\]: looks reasonable to play in the area (to me)
billywoods [5k\]: i think h8 is something i'd play almost without thinking, and i'm wondering why it's not happened yet, that's all :)
Uberdude [3d?\]: because there is a semea on the left sied
basicpract [-\]: reading the life and death on the left first?
Uberdude [3d?\]: did you read that?
Uberdude [3d?\]: if you win that then feel free to h8
basicpract [-\]: deciding whether you need to a13 is a pretty big decision :)
Leibnix [4k\]: I'm waiting for the movie
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;B[hl]C[Leibnix [4k\]: haha
Uberdude [3d?\]: so a13 then
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;W[ai]
;B[ah]
;W[aj]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: tally ho
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;B[cj]C[mof [3k?\]: haha, that's selfatari
testar: nick resign
mof [3k?\]: what a tosser ;)
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;W[hn]
;B[in]C[BGAadmin [-\]: 3 moves left 3 minutes - nicks byomi
BGAadmin [-\]: andrew 1 hour 27 mins used
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;W[gn]C[Nantes [8d\]: d10 ..
billywoods [5k\]: :S
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;B[dj]
;W[im]
;B[jm]C[Javaness [3d\]: umm
Uberdude [3d?\]: well, andrew didn't win in under 100 moves
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;W[il]C[Egg [10k\]: it seems black is winning
Uberdude [3d?\]: what a disappointment for him
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;B[jl]C[Caode [11k\]: This is clearly a loss in his books.
Lothus [2d\]: :)
BGAadmin [-\]: Next 10 mins, next 10 moves
Egg [10k\]: or can white still make a come back after losing such a large group 
Javaness [3d\]: have to resign there
Nantes [8d\]: resign in 28 seconds
bendan [5d\]: i bet on resign before next move
Leibnix [4k\]: I bet against
Nantes [8d\]: 0
Nantes [8d\]: :(
Lothus [2d\]: where is resign?
Killhim [3k?\]: coming
Javaness [3d\]: my resign button is greyed out
bendan [5d\]: sorry java, kgs bugged
nugatory [-\]: i can't find my betting buttons 
BGAadmin [-\]: so is mine.... 
go1d [7d\]: fake , you're an admin , you can resign other's game 
moorv [4k\]: I already reported my broken resign button
Egg [10k\]: there should be a feature where spectators can resign for the players
Detroit [2d?\]: who is playing
Caode [11k\]: lol, yes
nugatory [-\]: a crowdtracker could be fun for kibbitzers
moorv [4k\]: I would resign for all those lazy 9d
Detroit [2d?\]: ?
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;W[jk]C[Lothus [2d\]: wow what is that
Egg [10k\]: now a sente cut
Leibnix [4k\]: lol
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;B[ik]C[Egg [10k\]: white hoping to catch k8 ?
go1d [7d\]: game isn't over yet 
Detroit [2d?\]: who is black and who is white?
Leibnix [4k\]: names are listed to the right
Detroit [2d?\]: not on mobile app
nugatory [-\]: pro tip: read the player names by their colors above the chat window
billywoods [5k\]: black is andrew kay, white is nick krempel
Detroit [2d?\]: pro tip: thats not how mobile kgs works
Detroit [2d?\]: thanks billy
Lothus [2d\]: this is a strange question, there are their names above chat
nugatory [-\]: kgs on wheels now? well my mistake
moorv [4k\]: pro tip: don't use mobile apps :)
billywoods [5k\]: the mobile kgs app is kinda crappy
mof [3k?\]: possibly not on the phone
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;W[hm]
;B[ij]C[Tooveli [5d\]: White will H7 and attempt to kill the black group before resigning?
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;W[kk]C[Javaness [3d\]: I wonder what white's plan is
Egg [10k\]: now the fun starts
Tooveli [5d\]: This doesn't work at all though
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;B[lm]C[go1d [7d\]: why didn't he do something serious 
go1d [7d\]: like m17 
tibul3 [3k\]: resign imminent?
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;W[ll]C[go1d [7d\]: game wasn't totally over 
Egg [10k\]: hm, gonna vote for n7 
mof [3k?\]: like this it would have been much better to just patch the left
mof [3k?\]: and ignore all of k4 and l5
mof [3k?\]: but he wanted to be active
Lothus [2d\]: maybe he prefere to lost on time
go1d [8d\]: and suddenly i am 8d 
piksieben [8k\]: b has all the time in the world now
go1d [8d\]: dunno why 
bendan [5d\]: cos you kibitzed m17
bendan [5d\]: strong kibitz
nugatory [-\]: clearly kgs rating gnomes awarded you rating points for kibbitz strength
go1d [8d\]: now kibbitz gives kgs points :D 
Egg [10k\]: lol
Leibnix [4k\]: it really shoud to encourage good commenting
piksieben [8k\]: seems like kgs has low confidence on your rating
nugatory [-\]: it's a new feature; kibbitz has taken away kgs points for years, now system is balanced
billywoods [5k\]: hmm. what else is there except n7?
Lothus [2d\]: i expect m 6
megabeest [1k\]: kghin plays
cockroach [5k\]: M6
Javaness [3d\]: H2 just for giggles
Lothus [2d\]: but i dont count  i am just afraid :)
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;B[jr]
;W[ir]C[Leibnix [4k\]: revert to n7 plan
piksieben [8k\]: erm, b suprised by j2?
BGAadmin [-\]: doesnt look surprised no.
Lothus [2d\]: i think not suprised at all
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;B[iq]
;W[kr]
;B[ip]
;W[kq]C[piksieben [8k\]: h2?
Lothus [2d\]: m6 now looks great
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;B[mm]C[Lothus [2d\]: ok:P
bendan [5d\]: res time
Tooveli [5d\]: now is good timing for resign
piksieben [8k\]: what was that k2 exchange about?
Uberdude [3d?\]: 1 eye
Uberdude [3d?\]: no resign!
billywoods [5k\]: an eye o.-
Uberdude [3d?\]: q6!
piksieben [8k\]: thx
Uberdude [3d?\]: *q7
basicpract [-\]: also, maybe some endgame applications?
billywoods [5k\]: hard to believe this will get to endgame
Uberdude [3d?\]: it lsoes endgame
billywoods [5k\]: if white doesn't die, black has to, so... :P
kitsune [-\]: l9 looks too weak to really threaten j6 
Lothus [2d\]: i think he will resign now
Uberdude [3d?\]: of course
kitsune [-\]: and w loses capturning race
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;W[pk]
;B[ql]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: w is looking for a place to resign
Tooveli [5d\]: W had one..
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;W[nl]C[kitsune [-\]: oh.
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;B[nm]C[Tooveli [5d\]: he's looking too hard
Lothus [2d\]: a lot of place to resign...
Leibnix [4k\]: very hard to find such a place
Uberdude [3d?\]: r8 seesms a more usueful stone than q9
BGAadmin [-\]: White **resign** now
Uberdude [3d?\]: well done Andrew
BGAadmin [-\]: Cannot select on my KGS, im sorry... :S
billywoods [5k\]: white resigned?
BGAadmin [-\]: Yes, 
Uberdude [3d?\]: thanks for braodcast
Lothus [2d\]: \\o/
billywoods [5k\]: congrats to andrew, then :)
BGAadmin [-\]: Andrew won
BGAadmin [-\]: Thank you very much to Alexander Dinertein for reviewing the match! :)
Lothus [2d\]: thank you bgaadmin
BGAadmin [-\]: You are welcome :)
breakfast [3p\]: thx, exciting game!
mof [3k?\]: thanks for showing
Pink [2k\]: next round?
Lothus [2d\]: 22.09
Vic [?\]: admin says unconfirmed, as in not booked... but this is in discussion curren
BGAadmin [-\]: As soon as details have been confirmed they will be published on gotalk, and on the BGA website, tournament tab 
BGAadmin [-\]: keep an eye out :)
kolorek [1d\]: PALADIN!!!
Lothus [2d\]: wygral :)
BGAadmin [-\]: Thank you all, im going to close this now - thanks for watching! :)
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